Ed Bott's Microsoft Challenge--8/3/00

i run macaffe total virus defense for my network which consosts of nt4, win98, win2k pro, win2k server, and backoffice.i am in the process of upgrading my entire network to win2000 family exclusively. Total Virus Defense (hereafter referred to as TVD) worked well with my exchange, proxy, web, and nt servers as well as my nt and win98/98se clients. However, the autoupdate processes are a complete pain to use (i now manually update), their documentation absolutely sucks, and their support is lacking. not bad for a total out of the box solution, but not great either. it does have a fantastic exchange server solution though (protects client and server side). i am having blue screens in my win2k systems (eps. ones with cd-rw - go figure) and plan to dump it all. norton is great, but plan to stick with it as it is near impossible to remove later.

I use PC Cilin98 and Anti Virual Toolkit Pro both on Win98 and NT 4.0 boxes. They are updated at a minimum of once per week, frequently there are updates available twice a week. They both scan web pages, e-mail, and downloads, I haven't had an "infection" since I gave up Norton95!

For me, I run Norton Antivirus 2000 on the clients and McAfee on the Serves. Here is why:
Norton on clients, well basically I like to set it and forget it, Nortons LiveUpdate is very easy for the users to understand, doesnt require much user interactions and runs all on its own in the background away from the users. Perfect, no ftping no file dumping, just good old fetch the dats weekly and alert me if there is a problem.
Network Associates on Servers, well as far as NAI I goes I trust their Exchange Server solution a bit more then Nortons. I have heard horror stories about Nortons. I have used GroupSheild for Exchange and Extension blocking so I am comfortable with it. The updates arent as seamless as Norton but it is a server so I check on it often anyway. The other NAI tools are purchased in a bundle, so since I paid for them I use them on the servers, still the same issue with ftping updates down, but again I have to touch the machines weekly anyway, so I check those too.

I'm going to side with response #1. I run McAfee, and although their autoupdate among many features is below par, their point of truth is excellent and their release is always on time, almost. Mcaffee has an Enterprise console to push the updates out to the clients which is worth about the same as the cardboard box it came in. I've had to create my own kixtart scripts that run the autoupdate at login, which still isn't perfect because every now and then their new dat files will blue screen some 95/98 clients, or show false messages about corrupted dat files, but a after you figure out those types of errors, it runs pretty smooth with minor babysitting. We've got about 3000 clients and we keep over 99% updated using the kixtart. That'sabout 2 cents, isn't it?

I will go for McAfee.
1. The Groupshield that protects Exchange and extention filering make it easy to block known and potentially dangerous file attachments and inform receipant about it.
2. Scheduling option that enables install and forget for the users, that don't have to download updates. You can schedule to download updates from internal server or NAI FTP server, automatically, by just a radio button.
3. Multiple platform support, so far, I personally used McAfee and Total Virus Defanseon NT, 95, 98 as well as 2000, while my classmate is using it on Netware 4, without complaints. Just install it, a little configuration on the applets, and just forget about it.
4. I do use kixtart, and when I logon I know whether McAfee has been updated or not.
5. Remote users never need to remember to download updates or sent email updates to remote users because it is done by scheduling. No more help! for antivirus.
6. So far, I have never encounter a BSOD due to McAfee, I am considering myself lucky to get

we have mcaffee and NAI on the sever, and i also side with the first answer. And i am looking for a 'perfect', hassle-free alternative solution that handles auto-updating of the scan engine, virus pattern, and softare itself on all workstations andsevers--without internvention. the ideal setup should be that one 'server' machine goes out, gets the update, and posts it to the network, and all other machines simply retrieve it from the network.

any real-world experience with this?

also, can anyone post their scripts that were mentioned above?

thanks!

I've gotta go with Norton Enterprise Solutions. We're using the Corporate Edition 7.0, and it's been great. It has many useful Snap-in apps, and the Symantec System Center makes enterprise wide management a breeze...ya' gotta love it.

We are using Sophos Anti Virus (www.sophos.com) in our network with Win9x, WinNT 4.0, W2K and Netware 3.12 computers. Once you set it up on the server of your choice and update regularly, all the clients automatically update themselves from the server. The only drawback is that you have to manually download and update the new virus definitions, fortunately the rest is all automatic. The best feature of Sophos is that you can install and configure Sophos on any client remotely using the utility called SAVAdmin. No need to visit the computer.

We had been using the mcaffe total for our nt4 netware and exchange boxes. We also had them setup on the win 9x pc's. We have had many problems with this software. Our sales & marketing/catering uses delphi. We had to disable many features of the avto have delphi be productive. Our accounting dept. uses solomon, again we had to disable most features with mcafee to get solomon to be productive. To me if I disable the realtime scanning whats the point.
We have been testing pccillin on severalmachines. We are very excited. No disabling of features, and our software works great.
http://www.antivirus.com
ps. pccillin is run by microsoft itself.

We are currently using Norton AntiVirus Corporate Edition 7.0 (NAV) and it is terrible. The program is very buggy, poorly written, and does NOT work as advertised. You will have administrative nightmares if you use this. Check out this list of problems that we have encountered:
1. On one of our Netware 4.11 servers, NAV abends the server right after it loads. I setup a PC with Netware and the exact same software and settings and it loaded fine. I then upgraded the server with a brand new server, reinstalled Netware and NAV still abends the server (this problem is still unresolved).
2. On some NT 4.0 servers, NAV does not update the virus pattern. Even though the files were actually copied to the server, the admin program still saysthe it is using the old pattern. The only way to make the server move to the new pattern it to reboot the machine (not good).
3. About every other pattern update to our Lotus Notes snap-in causes the realtime protection to stop working. The only cure is to restart ou

We use Sophos Sweep on our networks. It was the only Virus software that we found that could cover all of the platforms that we are running and will also cover the ones identified in HeavyDuty's environment. Monthly we get a update to all platforms and once installed, it has a central upgrade feature that automatically updates user's workstations when they login. It has an intercheck feature that will prevent you from opening an infected file. You can be added to their mailing list so that you can get virus updates for newly identified viruses the day that they are available. If you have a file that you are having unusual problems with, you can e-mail it to their tech support and they will test it for possible virus activity and createa new virus identity if they find that it is a new, unidentified virus. Their tech support is available 24/7 and is very quick to respond to any questions that you send them. I have used several virus products in the past and this is the best that I have seen. Their w

I too am using Command Anti-Virus (CSAV) for a portion of the enterprise. CSAV has a lot of strengths especially in the detection arena. However, CSAV does not seem to react quicly enough to market changes like the introduction of CSAV for Win 2000 Pro, etc. My main complaint is the Enterprise scability and ease of distribution (product and AV updates) which I consider not as strong/easy as I would like. Norton's enterprise AV products seem to be getting good reviews at some of my locations, but historically Norton/Symantec product seems to be a "Jack of all trades and master of none". Therefore my vote goes to Trend Scan (which I have also implemented on the groupware side) http://www.antivirus.com. They have excellent enterprise support to cover groupware, SMTP gateways, and PC servers. Distribution and updates are easy with the built in tools. Trend also has good tech support and seems to be ahead of the tech curve in providing native support for other platforms like the AS/400. Essentialy, i

We use Norton Enterprise Anti-Virus 7.0 and it runs wonderfully on all of our NT/2000 servers and 2000/95/98 workstations. Not only that, but it's manageability is likewise spectacular. Setting up configuration profiles and sites as well as being able to email virus signature updates to our various road warrior users has saved use loads of work. While we aren't running it under Novell here, I have installed it on Novell networks time and again without trouble. The only issue is that after it automatically installs intself on a client via login script it reboots the client. But that's well worth it for the protection and automation that it provides.

I use Mcafee on the desktops. Using Novells Zenworks I update the dats on 400+ workstations each week, the process takes about 30 minutes.

Next I scan my networks with Mcafee then again with Norton 2000. Norton picks up what Mcafee leaves behind,and vice versa.

Forget about Mcafes's autoupdates, it causes more problems then anything else.

Well, I use McAfee TVD. I have had very little problem with the auto-update feature. Of course, I run ONLY NT4 and Windows 2000 machines. I have installed and run McAfee on several 9x machines in the past. It runs reasonably well on them, but I findthat after updating, it frequently requires a reboot. NT updates do, too, but much less frequently. With updates every week, I find VERY few (read: 1 in two years) virus problems on my machines.

My enthusiastic vote goes to InoculateIT, the network antivirus program from Computer Associate's security suite of products. It is ICSA certified for detection of viruses in the wild, has real-time alerting/curing, automatic updates as soon as they are released, is easily configured, and can be integrated into web browser. It runs on Windows 95/98/NT and I currently have their newest version running on 2000 Pro. There are also versions for Windows CE, NetWare, Macintosh, and for use with Lotus Notes. I use InoculateIT PE (Personal Edition) on my laptop, which is free for download and free updates as soon as issued with a newsletter that thoroughly describes the newest viruses. CA is one of the few companies that were invited to Washington for the security summit. I've been working with the product since it was designed by Cheyenne.

We run CA's antivirus solution, InoculateIT, for all of our systems. The only system running a different solution is the exchange server. Exchange is a unique animal, and I think requires a different package simply because of the special needs of anemail server. Other than this exepction, we are happy with the CA solution.

I currently use McAfee TVD for our product here in a very mixed and diverse environment. As we migrate company wide however to a Win2k environment, the reporting features and greater security with McAfee AVD will have us make the transition from the management console to the E-Policy orchestrator and the Virus Scan ASAP will free up some administrators to fight other fires. Virus Scan ASAP allows a web based service to updates clients with latest DAT files and product upgrades. This might put some fear into even the most security minded folks, but you can take some steps to protect your network from any threats.

I have used McAfee, Norton, and Computer Associate's InocuLAN. I would have to say that my recomendation goes to InocuLAN. The Software is easy to configure and allows greater control over the type of protection you want. It can be customized foreach computer and works equally well with WinNT, Win98, and Win95 systems. The automatic updates are customizable, more so than my experience with McAfee and Norton. The support that Computer Associates give is fantastic, and their website is alsovery helpful. The software can be configured over the network via a server, and you can also give each computer/workstation customized settings. The server gets the regular updates and delivers/distributes it to each computer on the network whichin turn takes some of the work off of the administrator's back. If an immediate update is needed...it is simply done through a mouse click on the server. The server and each computer notifies the administrator when the job is performed and done. If a virus is detecte

It looks like ebott is running a similar environment to our system. We have a multi platform environment consisting of NT,Exchange, Novell 5.0, Linux,and VAX servers. Our users are running predominately NT workstation. In the past, our solution was heavily dominated by the need to hand install AV updates on the clients and individual servers. About six months ago we moved to NORTON AV Enterprise. This package allows us to place AV updates on one NT server that acts as primary and have the rest of the NT servers automatically updated on the fly. Workstations are also updated. Our sysadmin also likes the fact that with a simple admin console package on his desktop he can ask the same NT primary to feed updates to all the Novell boxes.Exchange can also be added to this mix. Our cost analysis indicated that 250 workstations was about the price breakpoint to justify this Enterprise package. It has certainly paid for itself already in reduced labor and maintenance costs and has proved to be an incredi

I've been supervising a multi-building WAN at a service bureau for over 7 years. So as you probably can guess, I've seen more than my share of virus try to make thier way into my systems. Being in a service bureau where work is often fast & furious, I need something I didn't need to be coaching my users on how to continually update. Plus alert me on which users got infections but weren't informing me about! In short, what I need is Computer Associates InnoculateIT. (The Web address it is - www.cai.com/products/inoculateit.htm). Now the only problem I have to deal with is, when my users ask how can they keep thier PCs at home virus free, is teaching them how to download the Free Personal anti-virus product from CAI on the web at antivirus.cai.com!

Once again I would strongly recommend Aladdin's Esafe Protect Enterprise package for all LAN based pc's/laptops.(www.esafe.com) The desktop program runs on win3.x win9.x nt4.0, win2k and even has a TSR for DOS based equipment. The enterprise console can be a nt/2000 server or a Novell 4.x/5.x server. The big advantage esafe has over the standard A/V product is the "sandbox" technology that protects the pc from vandals, even if you do not have that latest virus signature files. Deployment, configuration, and updates are all controlled via the enterprise console.

I have been using Norton AV for a long time now. I have loved the product more than any other AV software out there. I run Norton Coporate Edition V7 with out any problems. I agree with the other people about it, the managability is great. Pushing the AV updates to the workstations without them knowing about it, nor having to deal with it makes my job alot easier. Also, Symantec has great support, both on the web and thier Tech Support personel. One time I tought I had crashed a VP's laptop, but there was a patch and a work around that Symantec's Tech Support knew about it and walked me through it. I would choose Symantecs AV any day!

I have used and tried every AV package out there, and I overwhelmingly recommend Inoculan. (Which is a surprise, because I hate every other CA product on the market with a passion! )

My reasons are:

1. Universal client/server support. I've used it on Novell, NT, 9x, 2000, Mac, etc. There's even support for Exchange and, I believe, Notes.

2. Quick updates, and good virus coverage. Norton and McAffe, IME, don't catch enough viruses. Even with the latest patches, those two stillmiss about 3 out of 10 that Inoculan will catch.

3. It's not a pig. Again, IMO, Norton and McAfee, along with the Real SmartStart (that little blue balloon with a note in your tray) are the #1 reasons people think Windows-based OSes are slow (did you know that Real SS takes up 16M of RAM??). On most machines Norton and McAfee run at about 8-12M RAM usage. Inoculan is generally 2-4. That's a huge difference on those older workstations with 32-64M. Even with sufficient RAM, N an M seem to have a MUCH higher

I like McAfee's Defence Package. (Not sure of the full name). I have used it on a network that is running 1 W95 machine, 7 W98se machines, 1 W98 1st machine, 1 2000 pro machine, and an NT Server machine. I have found this to be working great, unlikeNorton.

I have Symantec Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition v7.0 installed on 252 Win95 and Win98 machines. v7.0 doesn't allow ScanDisk or Defrag to run . v5.0 had no problems with this. Symantec wants everyone to boot to safe mode before running scandiskor defrag - I think they should fix the problem, not ignore it.

Same answer as for the original question...

My employer switched from IBM AV to Norton AV. Fortunately that means I get free licenses for my network since I dial in!

Prior to installing NT Server at home, my first choice F-Prot. It didn't seem to behave well with NT Server, but was fantastic for Win 3.x and 95.

IBM AV was getting problematic at work; sorry, I don't remember the specifics. It's been about 3 years.

Norton AV was a snap to install, and I have Live Update running daily (NAV has it's own scheduler). It might be "too good"--I tried saving the load from ILOVEYOU as a text file so I could look at it without running it. NAV wouldn't let me near the file!

You should not use any av package that doesn't include a sandbox and some sort of firewall control. Currently I am using eSafe and ZoneAlarm.on all of my Windows systems (Win9x, NT4). Both are available in either a personal (free) version and/or in a commercial version.

Now, to address HeavyDutys' real question "I'm looking to switch from Command Antivirus to some other AV solution..."

A single AV scanner will not suffice, thus I have included an AV solution that has worked for me and my reasons for implementing this particular AV solution.

HeavyDuty wrote: "I want real examples of why not to use Product X, or why I should choose Product Z."

Follows is why I have chosen the AV solution that I have and altogether dropped McAffee, Norton AV and Inoculan. This is a "Windows" solution. I am currently using multiple MS operating systems which include Win9x and WinNT4 on my LAN.

eSafe package includes:
Firewall (industrial strength based on IP, shared and non-shared network
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We us McAfee on the desktops and Norton on the Exchange Servers. The McAfee Enterprise Management Editon 2.5 has some decent features, but the process of getting it to work can be a bit tedious. While it's nice to be able to actively manage from acentralized location and get emails whenever one of your users opens an infected file, there are some serious detriments:

Updating is a chore, and is quirky in implementation. On some PCs, automated update scheduling worked, and for some it didn't.

Enterprise Edition cannot jump multiple switches or routers unless you unlock certain ports. And even when the ports are unlocked, it still may not work.

The powers that be bought the software, and we have to support it. McAfee support seems decent, if slow. Virus updates come out regularly and are fairly painless to install to the console, yet as mentioned before, pushing them out to your clients or allowing your clients to automatically download them is a pain. However, if you are looking for a c

I just looked through the list and thought I needed to chime in. I work for the Army in Texas and we are REQUIRED to use Norton Av. I run 9 servers and have 400 clients, and I find the updates are very easy, however the users can cause you problems if they do not complete the process. People get a false sense of security with AV software, we(administrators) have to ensure the users understand what they have. So regardless of what Anti-Virus program you have, you need to ensure the users know what they have. One thing on Norton that I have found(not on purpose) is you MUST have the option for scan all files selected on both the Scanner and Auto-Protect sections.

I am a firm beleiver in Symantec. I find that Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition has alot of valuable features. It costs money as far as licensing and getting the right version for mixed environments, but it's worth the effort.
You have snap-ins you can add to the mmc which we all know is the cool thing in today's windows 2000 server as well as NT4.0. You can set up all tools on one server or have a server group. One could be the quarentine server where copies of all viri found all machines can be forwarded to. Once on the quarentine server, these can be bundled and sent to SARC for analysis. You can update all machines from a single server or span them out. From the server you can run scans on any workstation in your server group. You can pretty much control any activity of the workstation antivirus from the server mmc. You can push installs on NT workstations or set scripts for win9x pcs.
Most any feature can be automated with this product. I have found smalls flaws but Symantec is quick on correctio

While researching a virus solution 1 year and a 1/2 ago for the best antivirus solution that would work on all Microsoft system I decided on Trend Micro's Neat Suite for a comphrensive virus solution. (I had used McAffee & Norton on Novell and 95 with not so great results in the past) so I was looking for the best solution. I am very happy with the Trends's products. I have Server Protect 5.1 running on all my Servers (NT 4 and W2K). All servers can be managed from a single console. My networked workstations are all running OfficeScan (95, 98, NT4 and W2K). this can be managed from any web browser. (My remote users and home users are Using Pc-Cillin 2000) I have also installed Trend's ScanMail on our Exchange server. (again can be managed from a web browser). I have found the software to be easy to install and manage and Trend technical support to be responsive whether I call or ask a question via e-mail. I highly recommend Trend in an all Microsoft enviromnent. There products also run under Net

Without a doubt it should be Trend's OfficeScan. We have used Command, it started locking up our systems when it got updated. OfficeScan works well. Users don't even notice that it is being updated. Oh, I should add that we are 99.9% NT4 Workstations w/100% NT4 Servers. It was easy to install on the server and even easier to install on clients. Users aren't allowed to disable it. Administration happens over the Intranet, meaning it can be accessed by the Admin from any PC on the network. Marsha

While I am only using Win 98, and therefore cannot be certain how it will be on other OS', I use Mijenix - now Ontrack - AV, along with the complete system suite. I have not had any problems to date, either with using the program or updating it, or with viruses.

A few months ago our Dr. Solomons AV software got replaced so I took a chance to test a few products. I finally settled on Sophos for workstations and Panda for the Mail servers and they seem to co-exist quite happily. Sophos has by far the simplestmanagement interface for administrators as it doesn't require installing.
One thing I did notice is that most of the products provide most of the features that you might need. It's probably best (if you have the time) to contact the AV producers and get them to send you sample - most will - then you can see what feature you require and even install different products on different systems.
Hope this helps.
btw removing all traces of the old Dr. Sol was not easy and will still need a reformat in some cases.

I have for the last 1.75 years used Computer Associates InnoculanIT 4.5. The program uses a NT login script to distribute the AV updates.The workstations are automatically updated with the newest signature files just by logging in therefore always being the most recent signature. The server is set for bi-monthly scanning of the FTP site for the updates and will push to workstations on a schedule if so desired. This program with a little configuration has cured the virus-protection headache and assured the managemnt team that the workstations are protected and up to date.

I have seen both Mcafee and NAV in action and I would get NAV. NAV for the Enterprise has the abilities to update clients definition on logon or while the users are not there. You can schedule virus scans over the weekend and it aso has a snapin forMS Exchange. No I do not work for Symantec but I like there product very much. The product is Norton AntiVirus 7.0 for the Enterprise.

First Off i dont feel that any one is better then the other they all have there pros and cons. I use e-safe for a few reasons one i like there response time. when the "I LOVE YOU" virus hit they had the cure ready for download before it even hit here and they also have a desktop fire wall to keep out unwanted company from peer to peer and wan to lan I've been very impressed with the service and the reliability of the system
now as for norton well there incrption code was compromised and just the thought of hackers having the code that can intergraded itself to the fabric of what is sapose to keep it out aint to appealing in this day and age of networking and security . if nothing else call around and get something that fits your need not what every one thinks is the best be cause what we might think is the best is over kill for you app.

Run away from Norton Antivirus, and don't let your loved ones get ahold of Nuts and Bolts, either. I've spent many hours rescuing clients from those two programs.

I was recently given the revelatively simple task of upgrading the AV product in our office enviroment namely Network Associates Total AntiVirus Defence Kit.
This should be able to be performed through their Management Console without any trouble. Trouble is it dosnt work!! Although it worked seemingly well with Win9x (requring 2 re-boots!!) it could not upgrade the VirusScan product to version 4.5 for NTWS or the Netsheild 4.5 for NT Server. The problem was with the Windows Installer Package.It appears that Network Associates have not quite got the hang of it yet and it seems to be causing them alot of problems.

The solution:
Do not initially try and upgrade VirusScan or Netsheild v4.5 through the Management Console.Uninstall any previous versions manually and reinstall the newer versions manually. You can then go to your Management Console and reinstall the product with all your dat or superdat updates.
It seemed to me after speaking to their Tech Support that I had come up with a new solution fo

Like many others my recommendation goes with NAV Corporate Edition. However I would like to point out that getting the entire NAV Enterprise Solution package might just make the most sense. Once purchased you get a year of Symantec Gold support including all product updates your NAV client and server licenses and one license for all other solution products. That can be very handy, the package includes V7 Corporate Ed. for DOS/WIN3.1,95,98,NTWS,NTSRV,2000Pro,2000SVR and Netware, it also includesthe (very nice) Symantec System Center, NAV Enterprise Snap-In for MMC, Quarantine Server Snap-In, LiveUpdate Administrator, NAV 6 for Mac, Command line scanner, Admin Tools for OS/2, Back office files for NAV for Exchange, NAV for Internet E-Mail Gateways for NT, NAV for Firewalls, NAV for Lotus Notes, NAV for Lotus Notes for OS/2 and (nice) NAV for Exchange. For the price I think it is one of the best packages around for protecting a mixed network. I've been using it for 2 years and hve been very happy with it, i

We are running Computer Assocites InnoculateIT on our NT servers. The updates are fairly simple, even on remote servers, we are doing them manually. They do have options for updating workstations from the server although we are not using this on ourworkstations.

The only complaint I have is one time I had a users send out an Email attachment to EVERYONE with a Word Macro virus and the virus made it through to about 20%-30% of my users.

We are using Trend Anti-Virus, which is server-based. Since we have several departments that have their own servers, we are also using Trend Virus Control System, which allows centralized management of many servers. Update is automatic (with the older version of TVCS I had some problems with some PCs not updating automatically, but the current version fixed that) - I schedule the server to check for updates daily, and they are pushed to the clients. I don't have to remind my users to update or worry that they'll turn the real-time scan off. When LoveLetter came out, Trend had an update before my users even got in, and I had it pushed to all the computers within half an hour. The users here who were using other products (this is a University campus, and therefore full of free-thinkers - it's like herding cats) had problems, but I only had two early birds who got infected. Since I also have their ScanMail product on my Exchange server, the infection got stopped right away.
I'vehad too many software conflict problems with Norton and DON'T recommend it. I've had too many McAfee users get viruses even with updated signatures. I like Command for users who don't connect to a network, but Trend is my choice for a network.

I tend to look for products that meet specific demands and exploit those to the fullest. We run ScanMail by Trend Micro on our intel and alpha based Exchange Servers.
If something new and nasty slipped by ScanMail, then we relied on Mcafee NetShield and VirusScan at the desktop level to manage the balance of our protection requirements.
However, due to limitations of the ScanMail for the alpha platform, we occasionally had something slip through and Mcafee was not always catching the bug. We now rely on F-Secure for our network. F-Secure has proven to be a very reliable application for us. It has versions for all of our platforms, NT4, NT2000, Terminal Server, Linux, Alpha based NT, and Novell. We tested heavily in our Terminal Server w/ Metaframe environment and found it to be easy to use, simple to update and manage from the central administration console. Finally, when you really need them they are there. During the Love Bug fiasco a few months back, F-Secure proved to be the better equipped to handle the flood of hits and user requests. Not only were we able to get online to obtain definitions, we were able to talk to a human with Metaframe expertise to help us with specific problems Terminal Server/Metaframe can generate and this was while we were and evaluation customer only. Unbelievable in today's market. I'd love to be able to tell you that this is your answer as well, but I can't. I can tell you that we are sold and plan on continuing our relationship with F-Secure. They have 90 evals available on their site if you'd like to test drive.

I manage IT solutions for a securities trading firm. We operate in a Novell Netware environment. First, Norton... I was always a big fan of Norton, and continue to use it at home. However, we run specific portfolio management software. Norton interferes with the downloads of trading information.
As far as Macafee, it failed us several times in detecting viruses that we knew were there. It also is extremely difficult to totally uninstall. We finally settled on Command. I am very happy with my choice here. I am e-mailed updates at least once a week and can deploy the updates to all of my users without them having to do anything. Once deployed, when they boot their machines, any new virus is immediately detected. It is so easy to just sit here at my desk and deploy updates to all of my users and I have the added security of knowing the updates are applied as soon as they boot. I would stick with Command if I were you. They are also recommended by Novell. If that's what you're running, why fix what isn't broken?

We were using mcafee total virus .... It does not load on old novel boxes very well. The updates are tricky to automate. The desktop version have sp1 release. The desktop version require lots of system resources. We needed to turn off most features. Delphi and solomon do not seem to be very compatible with mcafee. We switched to trend enterprise solution. What a pleasure. The scripts work! updating is a breeze. The system resouces are not depleted. At the user level speed is not adversly affected. Even Microsoft use it on their networks.

At a previous employer of mine, we implemented an Anti-virus software called Antigen. It runs on all major platforms and is easy to adminster and manage. Here are the reasons why I've chosen it as one of the best I've seen.
1. It scans all incoming and outgoing email in realtime.
2. You can customize the alerts to notify senders, recipients, and administrators of infected files. If you want, it will notify outside emailers of their infected file.
3. It specifies in its alert what type ofvirus it was.
4. If it can, it will clean it and continue to send the email with attachment. If it cannot clean it, it will notify the sender, recipient and administrator of this action.
5. You can set up filters to filter out and remove any vbs,exe, or bat files that you think might make your company vulnerable.
6. If a malicious user tries to rename a file thinking they could get it through the filter, it won't. This program checks the file headers for the actual type of file rather than looking at the name of the file. This way, vbs viruses don't come through disguised as something else.
7. Customer support is excellent. When the vbs virus first errupted, we called them up and they immediately showed us how to filter out the vbs file attachments while they updated their updates to include these new viruses, which only took a few days.

Off the top of my head, thats all I can think of. Hope this helps.

TJ

At my major client we are running NAV Corp Ed 7.03. Don't try 7.02 it doesn't work.
My feelings are mixed. The autoupdates to clients are wonderful, except every now and then one of the clients decides to not come to the party. We were scheduling it every night with a dialup connection. Once we had a permanent connection to the net, the scheduler didn't work, although going and pressing live update on the server does!
We are running MailMarshal www.mailmarshal.com on the proxy server, with McAfee TVD. This is great. MailMarshal gets really picky about emails that are not rfc822 compliant and deadletters them! the lifestages virus didn't even get to be virus checked. For what its worth we also run webmarshal and they are both excellent and reasonably priced.
At home I am trialling McAfee's online ActiveShield. Seems good so far and really easy. Could work well in a corporate lan.

You want to go with InoculateIT. I have been using it for 3 years now. Once installed the Inoc. server auto downloads updates and clients update from there. Had some initial setup pains but were resolved with simple settings change. Best thing is being able to "touch" any server/client from my desktop or rollout global changes just by changing the controller.

I think almost all AV software use the same method to detect virus, and work almost the same way like scan incoming email, running on background ... , choosing AV software is mostly base on how many virus the software can detect and delete, and it'sinterface, its update software.
If you looking for an Anti Virus software, I suggest use Norton AntiVirus 2001. It has nice, friendly interface, and it easy to use.
However, that's just the minor. I suggest it because it's "live update" program are easy to use and it handles everything. All you need to do when update is click some button. The "live update" program will handle the rest. Since for antivirus softwares, update is one of the most important thing to do and do frequently, "live update" is realy helpful. You also can set it to seek for new update weekly or daily.
Norton antivirus is my favorite AV software. However, if you want to protect your computer from virus effectively, you should not use only one AV program. Each AV software can detect some virus that other AV software cannot. Since you have Win9x, NT 4.0, NetWare 4.11, and will soon addWin2K Pro and Win2K server, I suggest use one or too more AV virus like McAfee or PC Cilin. The most important thing here is not what kind of Antivirus software you use but how frequently you update it. Remember to update as minimum of once per week, frequently.

Hope this help,

I think almost all AV software use the same method to detect virus, and work almost the same way like scan incoming email, running on background ... , choosing AV software is mostly base on how many virus the software can detect and delete, and it'sinterface, its update software.
If you looking for an Anti Virus software, I suggest use Norton AntiVirus 2001. It has nice, friendly interface, and it easy to use.
However, that's just the minor. I suggest it because it's "live update" program are easy to use and it handles everything. All you need to do when update is click some button. The "live update" program will handle the rest. Since for antivirus softwares, update is one of the most important thing to do and do frequently, "live update" is realy helpful. You also can set it to seek for new update weekly or daily.
Norton antivirus is my favorite AV software. However, if you want to protect your computer from virus effectively, you should not use only one AV program. Each AV software can detect some virus that other AV software cannot. Since you have Win9x, NT 4.0, NetWare 4.11, and will soon addWin2K Pro and Win2K server, I suggest use one or too more AV virus like McAfee or PC Cilin. The most important thing here is not what kind of Antivirus software you use but how frequently you update it. Remember to update as minimum of once per week, frequently.

Hope this help,

Hi!!!

A kind of solution is also
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All best!!!

Installed on the system is McAffee, Norton and PCcillian. I alternate which one will startup, but mostly have all the auto functions diabled. The auto features always interfere with the OS. I found that each one has an advantage over the other. Withall 3 installed, my system has been safe, of course there has to be a little more management involved.

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