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I cannot get Windows 98 computer to access my windows XP professional computers over the network. A few days ago, everything was working fine. I had no trouble accessing the XP from 98 boxes. I loaded 814995 and 816093 from the update site. I causeda few problems with Norton Internet security 2003 so I used the system restore to roll my system back. Everything seemed fine but now none of the computers with windows 98 can connect to it, when you try you get the "enter network password" dialog box. I can still access the XP computers with the other windows 2000 and XP computers though. I have not changed any user accounts or security settings. I think the problems lies somewhere in the user authentication of the windows 98 computers. I Any suggestions!!!

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by c.mcfadden

on the XP systems you have the wizard to set up a network make the floppy and try it on ur 98 systems,i know it seems bla bla bla but i have used it myself and it worked.

good luck

by sgt_shultz

the XP box needs to have user accounts for the 98 machines. they need to be exactly the same username and password used when the 98 user logs into his machine.

by magetower

Tell your XP system to audit logins (use the Local Security Settings applet in the Administrative Tools) for success and failure. Then review the Security event log after trying to connect from 98. This should give you an idea what the problem may be.

by escheitz

I have done this and I get Event ID 529 and 680. Not much help to me, because this just means (I think) that the XP cannot authenticate the user. I want to know why, because it did before, and the user accoutant has not changed, nor can I add any others.

by curious-as-always

Restoring XP using the last system restore point can set the baseline back to early working days!
so default settings can return this way.
Do youre Win98 machines see the XP shares?
in "my network places"?
(And youre not using any firewall?)
Ifnot:
On youre XP computers
Netbios over tcp/ip!
(or tcp/ip NetBios helper service is not started)
Or the server service is not started
But if so:
There still should be a account difference (as earlier stated) but if this really is OK as you said, then there could be a security policy twarting youre efforts.
try using Admin. tools / Local security settings / security options / Network security: Lan Manager authentication level
or else:
Local security settings / user rights assignment /access this computer from the network
And if all this fails try recreating the account and groupmemberships you want to use on the XP machines.
(Admin. Tools / Computer Management)
Or last try:
recreate the share and the permissions.
Hope this helps

by escheitz

I have tried the system restore, no luck. I can see the computers in Network Places, but cannot view any shares on them. I have uninstalled all firewalls, and have tried NetBIOS over TCP/IP. I believe it is something to do with the LAN Manager authentication level, but I have checked this setting in Local Policy, and in the registry, and am set to the correct level. I do not think it has anything to do with permissions because I cannot even view the shares yet. (I could be wrong though)

by clubmac

I like some of the technical replies, but what about the non techniocal you may be overlooking? I have had a problem like this before in my home network. I tried all kinds of thing like the suggestions above, and then I tried breaking the link with the computers by disconnecting the network cables, then shutting them down, reconnect, then power up, and everything worked as if there was no problem. The weird thing was that some surge prevented them from recognising each other and until I disconnected them the wouldn't.

It's not much to go on, but it may help. At least it was a waste of my typing.

by curious-as-always

Since you cannot see any shares, I heavily suspect that (as I earlier tried to explain) the system restore has set back some unwanted default settings, such as the file and printing sharing option in XP
So I think following the solution Cannibal@cannibalscookpot.com wrote in another similar problem will help you here
Go to any Explorer window and select TOOLS/Folder Options. Click VIEW tab. Scroll down to Use Simple File Sharing. Un-check the box. Apply and OK. Now you have access to securityfeatures you desire.

Think this will clear youre problem
Ofcourse shutting down everything unplug and replug everything is also a good suggestion if this still doesnt work

by escheitz

Thanks for the follow up, but the issue I don?t think has anything to do with the actual file sharing, it is with the user authentication. File sharing permissions affect the local user also, which I have no problems with, plus I tested this on a computer with XP what shares correctly. I will call this computer ?Xpcorrect?. I changed the file permissions to exclude this particular user, and when tried to access it through Network Neighborhood, I saw the computer, clicked it, and could view the shares but were denied access to them, (which is as expected) then I tried to log in with a nonexistent account on the ?Xpcorrect? and got the same "Enter Network Password" Resource: \\computer\IPC$ box as I do when I try with the other malfunctioning XP computer, but the user account is on the XP. (I am positive the account is identical on both machines) I would appreciate it if you had any other ideas.

by curious-as-always

To be honest I got the same errors you got (give password for \\xxx\ipc$) when I began testing youre problem at home after I read youre last reply.
But my solution will probably help you also:
To begin with I had different passwords but this got me a different kind of error (no access)
Problem with me was:
My account had been locked out so I couldnt acces anything on the XP machine
So probably youre account has been locked out also!
(so use the administrative tool: computer management/localusers/... to fix this)

And in case you didnt already known this:
Sharename on XP must be without the $ on the end (hidden shares) if you want to see it in "my network places" on youre win98 machine

If this still doesnt work you really need to reconstruct youre sharing permissions rights for the user.
Ntfs rights (under the security tab of the same sharefolder) will also be needed! (I needed it ... dunno why yet, but probably got something to do with the security settings of my XP machine)

Think this time youre worries are over now :)

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