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alright i already found a post on here that had a similar question but mine is slightly different.

right now i have a 40Gb slave hard drive in my old computer. no windows installed on it, excetera. just file storage. photos music and alike.

can i just throw it in my new computer as a slave? ive got a new sata320gb hd to be the master so are there any special things i have to do to use this one as the slave? and continue file storage with it?

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by bsmith523

Your new HDD is a SATA type so it has the smaller SATA connectors. If your old HDD is also a SATA type then yes you can just connect it and it should work fine. If it is the old PATA type with the large flat connector you need to make sure your motherboard has these older connector types. If your MB has these connectors you're in good shape else you will need to go get an PATA IDD controller card and put it into a PCI slot. Most likely if you have a CD/DVD drive you will have the PATA connector for it. If your old HDD is the only PATA drive, you will need to set the jumpers to make it the master drive. If you have a CD/DVD drive on the PATA connector, it is common to make the HDD the master and the CD/DVD as the slave. If you have 2 PATA connectors on the MB, I recommend connecting the HDD and the CD/DVD separately to each connector and make both as master.

by canehdian_j

my "old" hard drive is like 6 months old. so it probably has sata

by rkuhn040172

I'm still buying PATA drives, also called ATA/133 drives. My motherboard won't support SATA drives.

Look on the drive and it should say. If it's a 40 GB drive, I'd say it's probably the older PATA.

Otherwise, the bsmith gave you a good answer.

by bsmith523

If the connector only has a few pins it is a SATA, if it has a bunch of pins it is a PATA. It is also possible that is could be a SCSI type drive which is completely different. The easiest way is to look inside your computer and see have connectors you have. If you've got something on the motherboard that matches the drive just look on the MB and it should say what type of connector it is.

by sgt_shultz

if you don't have ide cables installed already then look for cable select ones or make sure your jumpering is correct. i think it should work fine as long is it is not formatted fat16 or whatever

by canehdian_j

so its not sata compatable. any way to transfer the data from my old comp to my new comp? usb cable or somthing?

by hal 9000

Including the M'Board Chip Set. If this is an IDE Drive and the Chip Set sets every IDE Drive to the Default drive yes you will be able to install it and use it but you will be unable to boot Windows as the IDE drive being the default drive will lack the files that tell the computer where to find the Windows load files.

As others have said the drive can be either a SATA or IDE/PATA and depending on the chip set of the M'Board there could be problems. If you are unable to tell us what the 40 GIG Drive actually is it's anyones best guess as to what will happen. However if you have a SATA Drive it's perfectly safe to install and use but you'll need the power connectors and a data lead. The Data lead you can just take from the other computer but Power Connectors can be a different kettle of fish depending on the power supply that you have you may need to buy an adaptor.

If you have a IDE/PATA drive it would be better to mount in into a USB Caddy and use it from there as that way there will be no possible problems with the Boot Order and you will not have any problems getting the computer to boot. However if you do use it inside the computer you may be forced to perform a In Place Install to get the unit working again the directions are here for this

http://tinyurl.com/g4bv8

And while it will keep most of your software load working it will make it necessary to reactivate the version of Windows that you have and install any Service Packs and Patches that have been released since your copy of Windows was released.

As you haven't made any mention of which version of Windows you are using if it's Vista the drive may be unreadable to that OS as well.

Col

by rkuhn040172

Lay off the booze and just stop!

He made it perfectly clear from the begin this is a storage only drive, no Windows involved. Stop your insults on MS.

Your first paragraph is worthless.

Your third paragraph is way off base, totally wrong, and misleading. Geez, at least mention the BIOS and how he could change that boot order.

Your next paragraph is just another cheap HAL slam on MS. Get over yourself.

Your last paragraph would only make sense assuming the differences between FAT, FAT32, and NTFS but you once again fail to explain, assume alot and mislead with FUD.

Really HAL, are you that stupid, totally drunk, or really drive a garbage truck for a living and just like screwing with people here?

Your ranting and raving impresses no one.

Several people here have made great suggestions towards helping this guy. You add nothing.

So far, this guy should be listening to bsmith and completely ignoring you.

by hal 9000

1 [i]Lay off the booze and just stop!

He made it perfectly clear from the begin this is a storage only drive, no Windows involved. Stop your insults on MS.

Your first paragraph is worthless.[/i] And what is worthless lets look see shall we?

[u]This depends on several things
Including the M'Board Chip Set. If this is an IDE Drive and the Chip Set sets every IDE Drive to the Default drive yes you will be able to install it and use it but you will be unable to boot Windows as the IDE drive being the default drive will lack the files that tell the computer where to find the Windows load files.[/u]

Can you please explain how a Hardware Issue impacts on any form of software? As this is exactly what is happening here if there is a PATA Drive involved it's purely hardware and not at all related to the loaded copy of Windows.

2[i] Your third paragraph is way off base, totally wrong, and misleading. Geez, at least mention the BIOS and how he could change that boot order.[/i]

and it was what exactly?

[u]If you have a IDE/PATA drive it would be better to mount in into a USB Caddy and use it from there as that way there will be no possible problems with the Boot Order and you will not have any problems getting the computer to boot. However if you do use it inside the computer you may be forced to perform a In Place Install to get the unit working again the directions are here for this

http://tinyurl.com/g4bv8[/u]

Do you even understand the difference between Hardware and software issues? Apparently not by your reply here.

3 [i]Your next paragraph is just another cheap HAL slam on MS. Get over yourself.[/i]

and it was this

[u]And while it will keep most of your software load working it will make it necessary to reactivate the version of Windows that you have and install any Service Packs and Patches that have been released since your copy of Windows was released.[/u]

Please explain what's wrong with this as after any In Place Install of any OS doesn't matter which one all patches and any other items have to be reapplied but you do tend to keep your base installed software load running. Of course you are welcome to disagree with this statement but you are also disagreeing with M$ Technical so obviously this can not be incorrect.

3 [i]Your last paragraph would only make sense assuming the differences between FAT, FAT32, and NTFS but you once again fail to explain, assume alot and mislead with FUD.[/i]

[u]As you haven't made any mention of which version of Windows you are using if it's Vista the drive may be unreadable to that OS as well.[/u]

And the problem is exactly what? It's a accepted [b]FACT by M$[/b] that Vista is sometimes unable to read NTFS Partitions that it has not created. Again straight from M$ Technical Support so are you calling M$ liars as well?

Everything above is perfectly correct and you are the fool for not knowing any better.

You have better stop smoking the M$ Marketing hype and look at real life as you are completely out of control and have lost the plot so much that you are not even aware of what is happening in real life.

[b][i][u]Tis better to shut up and allow people to think that you have some brains than to open your stupid mouth and prove beyond any doubt that you are an Idiot![/b][/u][/i]

Col

by steffi28

You do know theres a reason why you have about 600 less useful answers than Col right, even though you have been on TR a year longer than him, hmmm maybe its that other people find he gives useful answers?

by charliespencer

My village was wondering where we'd misplaced our idiot.

If HAL's response is of no value (most unlikely), isn't that up to canehdian to decide? After all, it's his question.

What exactly did HAL say that you interpreted as insulting Microsoft?

I can't figure you out, dude. Sometimes you're a source of useful information and worth reading. Other times you pull out the blowtorches and go off on a rant like this one. You haven't been ordering supplements from www.jekyllandhyde.com, have you?

by fred123456

I'm off an on here alot, to much work in the real world, I barely get time to post. But on an off day when I have a half hour I try to help.

From the last couple of posts I've read from I thought he was pretty level headed..

Guess I was wrong..

by hal 9000

Hardware issue that he was totally incapable of understanding. Actually the above post of mine applies to any OS and I only made mention of Windows because that was asked about but it equally applies to Linux, BSD, Solaris, Unix or whatever it is a straight hardware issue with most of the question except the bit about Vista not liking to read some HDD's that if hasn't formatted.

Again a fairly common question here if one cares to look but unfortunately Rickk is incapable of reading anything without putting his own agenda onto what he reads and then reacting like the spoilt little brat that he wants to be know as. :D

What I did like was his rabid defense of Vista and then his back flip where he explained why he wouldn't insist on using Vista at work because it wouldn't do the required job. Seems that when he says something not so nice about M$ it's A OK but anyone else is just out bashing M$ at every opportunity. Says quite a lot about hie beliefs Doesn't it?

Col

by ghostbrowser

and you have only 1 drive on a cable
Use the end connectors
The middle connector is for the second drive installed
Ide or PATA as some people call it has a large flat cable
Sorry you have to see the moronic arguments of rickk and hal 9000
rickk seems to like a fight

by computerd}}

You can't argue with someone who is always right.

Down with religion
Religion is a cult

by bsmith523

The easy way would be to get a 3.5" HDD enclosure. You put the old dive into this and it will connect to the USB port. You could also get the cables without the enclosure. It does the same thing but without the box to hold the drive. If your old computer is still workable you can create a netwrok between the 2 computers using a crossover cable. You could also get a special USB cable that can network 2 computers through the USB port. You should be able to find either of these cables at your local computer store.

by 1bn0

You might want to try one of these.

Sabrent USB 2.0 to IDE/SATA Cable for 2.5-Inch/ 3.5-Inch / 5.25-Inch Drive with Power Adapter

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2329300&CatId=470

Just connect the appropriate connector to your hdd, connect the power and plug the USB cable into your computer.

Copy the data off to your new computer drive and use the old 40 for something else.

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