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I copied a number of screensavers from my Windows ME computer. Each one consisted of a dll file and a scr file. They were in the Windows/System directory.

I would like to copy them to my XP computer but I don't know which directory to use as a few of the installed screensavers are in the Windows directory and others I can't find at all.

Why did MS have to do away with File Manager which was a useful tool capable of doing things which Windows Explorer cannot do -- in this instance do a wild-card search for screensavers: *.scr

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by seanferd

system32 or windows are probably the best directories.

You can still do a wildcard search. In "all or Part of Filename" box, type *.scr.

Edit: Make sure you select Hidden Files and the Subfolders options under More Advanced Options.

by thechas

Hi Julian,

First off, just copy the screen saver files to the System 32 folder.

C:\WINDOWS\system32

One thing to watch out for is that a few screen savers have additional resource files that they use. When I transport screen savers from one system to another, I select the .scr files then sort the folder by date and look for files with the same date that may be related to the screen saver.

As to the limitations of Windows Explorer, that has more to do with default settings than actual limitations. Microsoft limits what files you can view and search for unless you manually disable the restrictions.

In Windows Explorer, click on Tools.
Select Folder Options.
Click on the View tab.
Under files and folders, make sure that "Display the contents of system folders" is checked.
Under Hidden files and folders, select the option to show hidden files and folders.
Uncheck the box for hide extensions for known file types.
Uncheck the box for hide protected operating system files.

For some users, I would NEVER enable the system files options. If they cannot see the files, they cannot move or delete them.

Finally, if you do not like Windows Explorer, there are a number of free file managers you can get. Take a look at:

http://www.nonags.com/catlist.asp?catID=File%20Management

or www.snapfiles.com

One commercial file manager that may be worth looking at is Power Desk

http://tinyurl.com/d4qjec

Chas

by older mycroft

There are 2 choices on this site:

http://www.netez.com/2xExplorer/

#1 2x Explorer
#2 Explorer^2

#2 is an updated version of #1, however it uses the M$ search engine, whereas the first one has its own built-in search engine (which I prefer and consider to be superior to the M$ search engine).

Both of them, as the title suggests, gives to TWO PANES by default, which makes file management so much easier.

by seanferd

Which is nice, and also portable. The last freeware version (at least 5.55.002) is still available but not from the vendor's site any longer. Paid version is at 7.90.

Tabbed interface with a lot of options. Tree, folder, and and a third bottom pane that collapses/expands with find, preview, raw, properties, etc.

2Mb (unzipped), low RAM, fast, no install.

Now I'm going to check out what Old Mycroft suggested.

edit: this link looks good, 2 versions.
http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page22.html

Take care

by jardinier

Thanks for all the info, but you have given me so many options for a file manager I don't know which one to choose.

Would you all like to take a vote on it so that I can see which is the most popular?

by rob mekel

popular it's about what's best ... and I have no clue whatsoever on what is the best.

sorry about that

by jardinier

I copied one of them into Windows and the rest into Windows/System32. Although the NAMES of the screensavers appear in the "Properties" box on the desktop, the screensavers do not appear to work. When I click on "Preview" nothing happens.

The other night I set the screensaver to the one I had copied into the Windows directory. I went away for a while to give the screensaver time (15 minutes) to activate but instead there was a blank screen and I had to reboot the computer.

I think perhaps XP Pro does not like ME screensaver files.

by seanferd

and select Install from the context menu.

It is possible some might not work entirely, or have some expected settings unavailable, but I've put win95/98 screensavers in XP without issue.

If you like a Norton Commander style interface, I'd go with Mycroft's suggestion, but there is nothing precluding you from using all of them, as they don't replace the Explorer shell, but are additional. You can even put XYplorer on a thumb drive, and use it from there if you move around to different computers a lot. It is self-contained and portable, and keeps settings in a file rather than the registry.
Haven't had a chance to check out the ExplorerX2 yet, but it looks good, and as I said, has a more Commander-style 2 pane interface.

Enjoy.

by thechas

Julian,

As I stated in my replay, for many screen savers, just the .SCR and .DLL files are not enough. Their are often companion files that hold the graphics and images used.

I forgot to mention the other gotcha for Me and Windows 98 screen savers with XP. Some of those savers from your Me system are Open GL language files. You will need to find and install an Open GL interpreter in order to use them. I did try installing the W98 Plus pack on an XP system, and the installer would not allow it! I can't remember the name of the company that supplied the W98 and Me Open GL savers right off the top of my head. I do recall when I looked into them 4 or 5 years ago, I balked at the price they wanted for the software.

It was Organic Art. It looks like they no longer exist. There are a few downloads for at least 1 of their screensavers. I don't know if installing 1 will allow the others to run.

Chas

by seanferd

Older and newer Windows screensavers, including the OpenGL variety.

by seanferd

Just nothing? Do you get an error? Just not listed in the screensavers tab?

My other question is: Are these MS screensavers, or something different?

by jardinier

In post 5. "Whoops !!" I have stated that they are listed with the screensavers in the Properties box on the desktop. When I click on "Preview" I get a black, blank screen. Also the existing functional screensavers actually can be seen in a small window in the properties box, working and without using "Preview."

The screensavers came from an IBM OEM version of ME. Some are easily recognisable as MS screensavers including the very familiar "Underwater" and another one I know of "Dangerous Creatures."

by seanferd

and installed them just fine. Got the Win95 maze, which is OpenGL, up and running, and it was installed on the Desktop. Only the SCR file was needed, but I already have the OpenGL libraries installed.

I even installed the old Win 3.1 screensavers, which still have the old style config dialogs. The only one that didn't actually install was Flying Windows, but it runs if I double-click it or select test. I can configure it and the config sticks.

by jardinier

Thank you. I will check if these files are on my ME computer. Will these files also make all the other screensavers functional? In which directory should they be installed?

Regarding underwater screensavers, worldstart.com (excellent source of a variety of cheap software and small hardware items -- shipped free in the USA) is always flogging some amazing underwater screensaver. I might just purchase it next time it is advertised. They have specials at considerably reduced prices on Saturdays and Sundays.

Some fishy screensavers at large discount at worldstart.com

http://store.worldstart.com/home.php?cat=159

I have marked your post as "helpful" because it is the first one that appears to address my problem correctly and fully.

I have also ordered from worldstart.com

https://store.worldstart.com/product.php?productid=3492&cat=159&page=1

by seanferd

as the other screensaver files. Probably /system32 is best for all of them. I believe those two other DLLs are for any of the screensavers of the same ilk. Underwater, Dangerous Creatures, and whatever else came with the original Win 98 Plus! Pack for Kids.

Giving me one of the screensaver names definitely helped, as I've never had any of those, but I do remember them from several XP Home installations (OEM as well).

I'll check further on the other screensavers in this pack.
________________________
After checking:
You may also need in /system32-
sysagent.exe
plus!.dll

However, in the following thread, some issues with the screensaver names has been mentioned. Apparently, they all might end up named "Wildlife32" in your screensaver settings, but as you say they are already listed, you may not have this issue.

http://www.msfn.org/board/lofiversion/index.php/t23869.html

Here is the potentially cool part, if you have a problem:

I found this a while ago, but did not know that it applied until I found out where your particular screensavers came from.

Install package for Win98 Plus! themes for XP or Vista------
http://kcomputerzone.ca/plus-98.kcz

That way, you have the entire theme that goes with the SCR; sounds and wallpaper.

I hope one of these solutions works for you, Sir.

by jardinier

I don't know about Windows 98 Plus but I did install Windows 95 Plus and it looked so awful I uninstalled it.

The Underwater was THE standard screensaver for Windows 98 (regular). All the computers in the big retail stores used it, so I don't think it was a part of "Plus" (more like Minus)

Well anyhow I will check those other files you mentioned (didn't have time today) and wait for my Super Dooper Underwater screensaver to arrive from worldstart.com

by seanferd

Baseball (256 color)
Dangerous Creatures (256 color)
Inside your Computer (high color)
Jungle (256 color)
Leonardo da Vinci (256 color)
More Windows (high color)
Mystery (high color)
Nature (high color)
Science (256 color)
Space (256 color)
Sports (256 color)
The 60's USA (256 color)
The Golden Era (high color)
Travel (high color)
Underwater (high color)
Windows 98 (256 color)

I had them included in a 98SE disk, but they weren't in another Win98 install. I can never tell what was standard or OEM or what. They are supposedly the same files that were in ME, etc.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy the new screensaver you ordered. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

by jardinier

Thank you very much indeed Sir. I installed the files WL32DLL.DLL and WILDLB32.DLL in Windows System directory and now all the ME Screensavers that I copied are fully functional. You may be interested to know that in XP Windows Explorer, these files are marked: "Microsoft Plus ! Screen Saver."

It was easy to locate the files on ME because it still used Windows File Manager.

by seanferd

When you say Windows File Manager, do you mean the Windows 3.1 style file manager? Or do you mean "having an expandable folder tree on the right side of the window"?

If that is all you need, we can fix that.

by jardinier

It is exactly the same right up to ME. I don't know if it is in 2K because I have never had that version of windows. I like it because it gives the names of the files WITHOUT having to position your mouse over them as in XP.

An interesting side note is that files in XP and associated software still have a maximum of 8 letters and digits just like back in the days of MS-DOS.

I am fully acquainted with the operation of Windows Explorer. I use it mostly to set up my start menu.

by rob mekel

it will horrify you.

Even the looks of XP have completely changed not to mention the looks of older windows versions ... alltho I like it :)

It can be very confusing.

by jardinier

Recently I purchased a brand new laptop with good specs (Pentium dual-core CPU; 2 GB RAM; 250 GB HDD) and was fortunate enough to get one preloaded with XP Pro.

I have yet to hear someone saying ANYTHING good about Vista. No doubt this has been discussed as nauseum at TR but I only visit now for technical enquiries.

by seanferd

if you have a Win95 or Win98 installation or setup disk. However, it seems to display everything except the Documents and Settings directory, and therefore no per-user "My Documents". This is probably due to spaces in the file names.

I have noticed that operating system files do tend to stick to the 8.3 naming convention, but they really aren't limited to such. Many folders have much longer names as well.
igfxCoIn_v4704.dll
microsoft.managementconsole.dll
PerfStringBackup.INI
default_user_class.dat
WindowsLogon.manifest

I'm still not sure how the display of file names is being limited for you. I get a full name displayed regardless of which View is selected for the file pane (details, tiles, thumbnails, icons, list).

As I keep thinking about this, I'm wondering if you mean a file's "English" name, from the description in the properties dialog or tooltip on mouse hover.

I don't remember the plain-English descriptive name showing in the file manager. I'm going to have to fire up a Win 98 machine and check this out. My curiosity is definitely piqued!

by jardinier

I have Windows 98 SE on a separate partition on this computer. I can copy winfile.exe to the desktop or make a new shortcut but it doesn't work because it asks for another file -- COMMCTRL.DLL

Any other options apart from the various file manager mentioned in this discussion?

by seanferd

copy the COMMCTRL.DLL to your XP machine, try running it again, and if it requires another file, copy that as well.

I don't have COMMCTRL.DLL, but file manager works. Life is full of mysteries!

edit: OR, try this on for size.
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/regs_edits/WINFILE.EXE

A 32bit version.

That's a direct download link from Kelly's Corner. The page the link is from:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

Kelly's hompage for XP:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm

by jardinier

How can I ever repay you for giving me this software?

Pardon me if I have posted the following information previously. I recently downloaded to the 98 SE partition a software item which was supposed to allow me to view all web pages in 3D. After it was installed it said it would not work in 98 SE. There was an uninstal feature so I uninstalled it. There was a brief item: "Do you wish to delete such-and-such also?" So I did. And lo my desktop went all weird looking and when I rebooted I was asked to enter the key code for the particular version of Windows.

Because at least some of my software is organised, I was able to do this.

And then what happened? Nothing. Sweet Fanny Adams. It booted to the wallpaper and that was that.

I asked my friend Patrick who had set up the dual boot if it would be easy to fix. "Probably not," he said. Fortunately as I have probably also stated elsewhere, I can access all parts of the 98 SE Partition via the XP partion. So finally I have been obliged to catch up with the rest of the world and actually use XP Pro as my only operating system on all my computers.

Is XP better than 98 SE? If it freezes I can usually end the task displayed when I press ctrl-alt-del. There are NO blue screens of death and the machine actually shuts down every time which did not happen with 98 SE.

I am enjoying the sound of the water bubbles on Microsoft's Underwater screensaver.

Thank you all.

by jardinier

It is a much easier program to work with than Windows Explorer. For one thing you can delete files or whole directories without having to send them to the Recycle Bin first. It is also easier to rename files as I have just disovered. It is quicker to MOVE a file or directory with File Manager than with Explorer cut-and-paste. What I really miss are some MS-DOS commands especially deltree. Now that was one easy way to get rid of an unwanted directory.
Mostly I use Windows Explore just for setting up shortcuts on the program menu.

So I am a very happy person. Thank you once again.

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