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Sony Vaio laptop doesn't boot

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I have an old Vaio that I had planned to give to a friend as her pc is
dying a slow death. The last time I booted the thing was about a year
and a half ago when I reimaged it after the SO bought his HP. It has
been sitting unused for that time. It wasn't dropped or otherwise
injured.

When I try to power it on, it makes no effort to do anything and is not
getting to the BIOS so no beeps that might give me a clue.

It is fully charged according to it's battery indicator light.

Has anyone ever had this experience? Can you give me some ideas
where to begin to try to fix? Or should I pronounce it a brick and
apply the rubbish solution?

I DO award thumbs for helpful answers. Not like some people around
here.

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by nepenthe0

The CMOS gradually drains the little rechargeable watch battery that keeps a trickle current to the CMOS chip. I'll bet your CMOS battery is dead.

I would recommend replacing the CMOS battery. To my knowledge, the BIOS program is preserved intact (you know more about this stuff than I do).

Rick/Portland, OR

P.S. - Congratulations on 100+ [i]Thumbs Up![/i] Well deserved, honorably earned.

by oh smeg

These Smart Sockets are effectively a Electrolytic Capacitor a polarized Device that can be used to absorb Power Spikes or like a Battery.

Tig the Smart Socket for BIOS has probably gone flat so leave the NB plugged in for a few hours and try booting it again. If that doesn't work loose the battery but make sure that it's been on mains power for several hours first just to stop any spikes doing damage.

You'll probably need to reset the BIOS as the settings like Date & Time will have been lost when the CMOS lost power.

You'll most likely need to replace the battery as well because by now it's developed a Memory or whatever it's called for that battery type.

Drop me a PM if you need any more advice

Col

by tig2

When you say replace the battery, are you saying replace the
NB battery? Or is there a battery on the board that you are
referring to?

Resetting BIOS is nothing. I can do that easily. But if this
thing is salvageable, I would like to try. My friend is a
starving student and the lappie will fill a real need for her.

by tig2

You are correct sir. See other response and win another
thumb!

by nepenthe0

Thanks for the update, OH Smeg. I've been wondering why my relatively new [b]T[/b] series Sony notebook lacks any documentation about CMOS battery replacement.

There is a Feb'07 TR post about Sony laptop CMOS batteries:

http://tinyurl.com/5xycd5

I was unaware of the technology change, but Tigger's laptop may still have a CMOS battery. The link describes the battery location (if there is one).

Rick/Portland, OR

by tig2

But according to the Sony website, HAL called it correctly.

Don't know why I couldn't come up with CMOS all by myself!
I must be slipping in my old age.

You get a thumb for making me look it up. Good on you!

by older mycroft

Have you thought of running it on AC power only, with the battery removed from the circuit?

Whether the battery is showing full charge or not, there is clearly an impasse somewhere in the circuit.

Lose the battery.

You could try the old school eraser trick, rubbing both the contacts on the battery and on the laptop chassis. ;)

by tig2

And a great idea with the eraser. Will do that as well.

Thanks, Mycroft. You are very helpful!

by rob miners

Reseating the RAM may resolve this issue. On most notebook PCs, removing and reinserting the memory is a simple step and does not require advanced technical knowledge of the computer.

Remove the battery
Slide and hold the battery release latch to the unlock position.
Use your finger to lift the battery up and out.
Remove the memory module
Locate the memory module cover on the bottom of the notebook.
Remove the screw that covers the memory module.
Use your finger or a flat head screw driver to lift the inside edge of the memory module and remove it.
Push both tabs outward simultaneously to release the memory module.
Grasp the memory module by the edges and pull gently to remove it.
After removing one module, reseat the other module and replace the memory expansion cover and then replace the screw.
Replace the battery
Insert the battery into the notebook.
Push the battery into the base enclosure until you hear a click.
Connect the AC adapter and turn on the notebook.
You may have to repeat these steps if there are two memory modules. Swap them around.

Here is a link that I find interesting it is for IBM Notebooks but it would be worth having a play.

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=101&threadID=239264

by tig2

If I can get this beast to run again, I will definitely reseat
anything I can reach that doesn't require me to crack the
chassis. Years and years of doing support means that I
have the tools. Not doing support recently means that I
don't know that I have the talent any more.

*sigh*

Thanks for the tip!

by rob miners

it will all come back. :)
I would be very interested to see if anything comes from the TR link that I passed on as I haven't been able to test that one. :)

Rob

by nepenthe0

You gave my fragile ego a much needed boost of encouragement, and you are hereby officially added to my [i]Contacts[/i] list [i]in perpetuity[/i]...

Rick

Richard M. Brown, MD/JD ('Rick')
Portland, OR

by oh smeg

Tigger 2 is a Lifetime member of TR's Impure Brigade and along with her cohorts she will attempt to lead you astray very quickly. Don't give her any encouragement as it will be your downfall. :^0

Of course being as Pure as I am it is impossible to corupt me in any way what so ever. :D

Col ]:)

by nepenthe0

Our government is distributing [i]Economic Stimulous Payment[/i] checks to scare off a threatened recession. Now that the taxpayers are awash with windfall cash, we have historic opportunities for corruption. Alas, it seems everyone is using the handouts to pay fuel and food bills.

So I'm safe for now, but I appreciate the warning. I like Tigger...

Rick/Portland, OR

by oh smeg

The Sony that you used to mention shouldn't have a BIOS Battery but a Smart Socket which does go flat over a very long time of inactivity.

The battery that was in the NB as the Main Battery if left unused over a long time will go off and not work properly as they either do not produce enough power before going flat or will not fully charge. Maybe a few Discharge Charge cycles when the NB is working again will do some good depending on what the battery actually is. If it's a Ni Cad that will help but if it's a Lion forget things just shove a new battery in it.

Col

by tig2

Just wanted to hear you confirm that. The computer should
still have some serviceable years left and I think that
replacing the battery is a small price to pay.

Thanks!

by oh smeg

You are trying to push this account to 666 too aren't you. :D

And it only a new one that I recently created. :(

You should get a lot of life out of this NB and if it had of been used the battery wouldn't have karked it into the bargain. But I can't talk as I think I've pulled my NB out twice since th move and it's battery is shot as well now. Seems that for some reason it doesn't like not getting any attention and it's going to cost me for not playing with it. I should get Boxy in to Fiddle about with it I suppose. :D

Col ]:)

by oh smeg

Looking like Maxwell or The Chas with a Gazillion Thumbs isn't my style. Several years ago I got feed up with people not responding to questions that they asked and was going to stick with the Discussion side of TR but Chas ruined that for me by suggesting that it was maybe a good idea to answer questions to brush up on things that I didn't use all that much and it sort of caught hold and got me addicted to answering questions all over again. I'll have to put out a contract on Chas for that won't I? :D

Anyway Tig that's a long way off so I'll think about it when I get closer. :0

There is always another account that I created when I setup this one I can use though. :^0

Col ]:)
[i]edited because Boxies Typing Lessons are having a extremely deferential effect on my typing. ;\

I still maintain that her idea of taking the keys off the keyboard and placing them where I want them rather than where they should be on a QWERTY Keyboard doesn't work but she's insistent and I'm way to clever to argue with a woman. :0

by nepenthe0

I thought [i]Boxfiddler[/i] was a [i]she[/i] but was too shy to inquire. There are subtle differences in style (she can spell, you cannot). Now that I know, I'm going to trust my instincts but still stay [i]politically correct[/i]...

Rick/Portland, OR

by oh smeg

Here Rick

http://tinyurl.com/6js6lk

The usual suspects have been involved in this and the worst offender HAL 9000 needs to be avoided at all costs. :D

Boxy has appeared in this as well as Jacqui who confuses a lot of people with his gender as well. ;)

Tig is another one to be careful of as she visited TR Headquarters and ever since staff have been leaving in droves. She insists that it's the current Economic Climate but I know better she scared then all out of the place no matter what she claims. Even the Unflappable Beth Blakely had to leave town ASAP after being exposed to Tig's Humor. :^0

But they are a great bunch and will bend over back wards if you need help, you just have to remember not to get roped into them though or your life will be over and you'll never be recognized by your previous friends ever again. :8}

Col ]:)

by boxfiddler

do not maintain political correctness on my account. I abhor the notion. :D

I'm inordinately curious about those instincts of yours, now you have mentioned them. ;)

Beware Oh Smeg, alter ego of the badly in need of repair HAL 9000. He is too fond of pushing people out airlocks.

by oh smeg

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Dammit Davette I can not find the right keys anymore since you started teaching me to type. :(

by oh smeg

As it was Tig asking I just responded and didn't read the other responses as I knew the right answer. :p

Well not all of the other responses at least. So should we get Tig to pay you a visit? Remember what happened at TR after she went there and you have no place to run to. :^0

But seriously we have to look after out friends don't we?

Col

by older mycroft

Out of the path of incoming Tigs !!

Maybe I could bore straight through the Earth's core, and divert her to YOUR door! :^0

by oh smeg

I think that Tig would catch up with you before you get a chance to finish. :D

Col

by oh smeg

You should see me on a bad day. :p

Col ]:)

by boxfiddler

This is due to fault in your circuitry. As is your notion that innocence is one of your virtues.

If you would simply come in for maintenance, as I have been requesting for months now, your post-maintenance state might once again possess typing skill. :D

Davette

tidypoet
ironic, yes? :D

by oh smeg

Has been in Earth Orbit for a very long time now and no one will go near it to look in for Routine Maintains. Do you really believe that all those Space Craft have fallen out of the sky for the past 30 years all by themselves? :0

Things like that Russian Sky Lab and Sky Lab Itself are all results of getting too close to Discovery without asking permission to come on board. Do you really think that a O Ring failed in Cold Weather on that Space Shuttle or that the Landing Bay Door opened by accident on that other one that broke up over CA? ;\

You are welcome to come Onboard and look at the Routine Service History but you have to get there first. Or so I'm told by Hal 9000. :p

Do you really think that Apollo 13 had a spark in one of it's O2 Tanks. If it had of left the launch Pad on time Discovery would have been no where near it's projected path but because it was delayed and got too close to Discovery without permission it had to be stopped or it might have had a Catastrophic Failure close to Discovery and caused some problems for the Controlling Influence there. ?:|

Then all those missing Aircraft which just disappeared off the face of the planet do you honestly believe that they went up and never came down again. They where all Spy Flights to Spy on Discovery and the HAL 9000 so they had Computer Failures that caused then to crash and because of the way that they disappeared their loss had to be hushed up. :p

You can not honestly believe that there is such a place on the Ocean as the Bermuda Triangle can you? Again everything that has happened there for the past 45 years has been a direct result of the PTB trying to inflict Computer Malfunctions on the Controlling Elements of Discovery and it hit back. :|

Or all those traffic incidents that happen on a daily basis you didn't really think that the guy who hit your house was actually drunk did you? The Police just had to hush up the fact that the poor confused person was transported from two miles from his home in Alaska in the snow and deposited just before that Stop Sign with Snow Chains on the vehicle. To prevent Widespread Fear griping the population of America the Government hushes all this up and blames others with what appear to be acceptable Excuses. :)

If you want to follow the History of Discovery being in Earth Orbit just look at the discredited reports of Flying Saucers when these started Discovery was in a Geosynchronous Low Earth Orbit and when the ship was moved to a higher Orbit the reports dropped off considerably. They of course have continued as the Governments constantly attempt to sneak people on board to spy on the other Countries of the world. But the HAL 9000 believes that there should be [b]Fair Play[/b] so it prevents these unauthorized accesses by opening the Pod Bay Doors and ejecting the unwelcome visitors out and back to earth by the fastest route possible along with their Delivery Platform. :8}

Gee some people are just so gullible to believe all that they are told. :D

Perhaps you would like a Personal Demonstration? B-)

Col

The Nice One ;)

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