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by attymannyluna

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any wonderful ideas to make xpsp3 compatible to enjoy vista sp1?

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by older mycroft

Otherwise there wouldn't have been so many problems right from the outset <...wipes foam from corner of mouth>.

by boxfiddler Hot topic

Would it be a bit too far out to interpret this as "I've been using that freaking Vista and it sucks?" :D

by older mycroft

Of course, it could just be that I simply HATE VISTA ...Aaaarrrrgghh !! :p

The only AERO that I like is the chocolate one I can shove in my slavering gob. :)

by oh smeg

OM has been playing with Vista and hated it so much that he applied SP1, and found it even less likely to work than when SP1 wasn't applied.

Rubbish to start off with, and with SP1 it's a bigger pile of Rubbish.

I'm waiting for Windows 7 to come along latter this year for some Relief from Vista. :p

Even a Pre Alpha Version of 7 has to be better than Vista, after all it can't possibly get any worse can it? :(

Col
[i]Edited[/b] because I've caught the Dyslexic Germ off Davette. :_|

by thechas

No, you cannot install Vista SP1 or any other Vista updates on a system running Windows XP. There are no tricks or hacks. Vista is as different from XP as Windows 95 was from Windows 3.1!

Now, I can see where you might run into problems attempting to install Vista SP1 on a system that dual boots XP and Vista.

In the case of a dual boot system, I would edit your boot-loader to make Vista the default OS until the Service Pack is installed.

If you are having a specific problem with Vista SP1, we would love to hear the details.

I'm waiting for some "free" time before I even consider installing Vista SP1, or XP SP3 for that matter. At a minimum, I will set a restore point prior to installing either update.

Chas

by oh smeg

Personally I'll be cloning the drive before applying either to any computer.

Even then I'll have a wiping utility handy just in case. :D

Col

by thechas

Notice that I said at a minimum I will create a restore point.

It will be at least another week before I even attempt the update. I have my external drive all set for a full system backup.

Chas

by var1016

I have been careful setting restore points.

Stupidly I believed people when they said SP1 was an improvement... It is such an improvement that now I have to connect my scanner to my old (XP hooray)computer and the computer takes even longer to boot than before - oh yes I get the welcome screen in about the time it takes for XP to be all ready on my old computer, but then there's the same time again whilst it tries to unscramble its stupid self.

Best of all SP1 deletes all system restore points, so I am stuffed. Well not actually, because I have bought XP, and Vista is going where it belongs: down the toilet.

Paul

by boxfiddler Hot topic

Davette is clean from the Dyslexic Germ. Davette has the 'brain moves faster than the fingers (and mouth) germ', and possibly cooties. :D
OS in fact has the 'badly reprogrammed cannot utilize memory modules correctly germ'. Hence his determination to abolish Davette from corporate reality. :D :D

by Former member

As far as the "SP1" is concerned i have downloaded it and found it just fine. I have Vista running on two systems and no concerns/problems what so ever. Mind you all my components are brand new. Basically i do not see a problem, unless you have hardware that can not run under Vista.

by oh smeg

And where any Software Packages Broken by the SP?

Just loading any M$ SP on isn't a problem it's what works after the SP has been installed that has always been a problem with every M$ Service Pack.

I've been playing with Windows long enough not to Trust M$ as far as I can Kick the Main Building that they are in and move it as much as 1 millionth of a Nanometer. Doesn't matter about having new hardware as there are still some companies supplying Beta Drivers for Vista.

I have to fully Test every thing from M$ to make sure that it has no ill effect on any of my customers Systems or Software as loosing the ability to do something at work in a Mission Critical Environment just isn't an option. Of course I'm not paying for the Down Time but I still care what I tell my customers to do. :D

Col

by Former member

So ever, though it is early days yet, but so far so good, no broken packets what so ever. It is a big download though and it will take something like an hour or so, i did it at night time, but in the morning i was at my desktop everything running as usual.

by thechas

I do not have a link to a specific or detail list. But, I did read an article that stated that many people are having problems with hardware that worked under Vista and now is not supported with SP1 installed.

I fully agree with your caution on client systems. I myself have been advising everyone to stick with XP for as long as they can. I think I have enough licenses for my needs at this time. But, I may pick up a couple more before the June cut-off date for US sales of XP.

Chas

by jamesrl

I installed Vista about 2 weeks before SP1, knowing that SP1 would improve performance.

Here is what I have noticed. Network performance is actually for me much better than it was in XP. Subjectively it was on par with XP before the SP, noticeably better after.

No software issues at all. Now I don't run a huge suite of software, but my anti-virus/anti-spyware (AVG), other XP utilities like CCleaner, apps like openoffice, games etc, all have been fine.

The one dissapointment is that although most tasks seems faster after SP1, there is no change at all in running DirectX 0 games. I used a benchmarking utility to confirm that performance is the same, which is to say about 10% slower than XP.

Overall SP1 has made Vista tolerable.

James

by oh smeg

I doubt that I'll have even though about Loading any of these on within a week.

I just don't trust M$ Service Packs at all and if I have a Clone available I'm not loosing much time when things go wrong. :D

Col

by oh smeg

http://tinyurl.com/2x9hjx

It's from the Official Windows User Groups Newsletter so if they are willing to print this there must be some major issues involved.

OH BTW I have SP1 for Vista on the HDD the Full version of it took about 16 minutes to download. I personally would never trust any computer that I'm responsible for to install any SP without supervision. I just don't trust the Service Packs anywhere near that much.

Col

by oh smeg

M$ is supposed to be selling that for the Indefinite Future. Probably because it doesn't involve supplying any Media just a bit of paper saying you can use it on X Number of Computers.

I'm still able to buy M$ DOS Licenses here but that may change soon as M$ is starting to talk about buying Vista Enterprise and using the Backward License on that. Would make DOS very expensive and I doubt that I would even consider continuing to buy it if that is forced on us. Currently a DOS License is about $60.00 and the Enterprise version of Vista is...........

Makes the DOS License very expensive for what is offered. :D

Col

by var1016

I am with you 100%; it was bad enough for the last six months, now it really is crap. I have ordered XP (and posted a question too!).

Best of luck

Paul

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