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by snuffy09

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How is Microsoft cracking down on software Piracy with windows 7?

I know lots of people that have perfectly working bootleg copies of xp and vista.

Will 7 be harder to hack/copy?

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by older mycroft

Because there is a difference.

I would infer that the majority of TR peers have touched a bootleg copy of something at some point, otherwise they're not getting about much.

However there is a big difference between [i]"perfectly working bootleg copies of xp and vista"[/i] and copies that can update and that are secure when (if ever) online.

by snuffy09

maybe its more about the activation key you use than anything else?

I have had access to a Vista ultimate disk before that had the product key embedded (or cracked) that would also allow all Microsoft updates.

and im not sure what you mean by being "secure online"?

by oh smeg

You can say lots of things about Windows but referring to it as [b]Secure While On Line[/b] isn't one of them. :D

Though here I think OM means that the cracked copy isn't full of crap that is calling home to talk to mommy. Well at least no more than Legit copies of Windows. ;)

Col

by oh smeg

They are talking a lot but doing nothing more than what they did with Vista as far as I have heard. ;)

7 will be released in the M$ Action Packs as a 5 Work Station Volume License Product which is what the Professional Crackers seem to like using to Pirate M$ Product from.

But I do like the way that the people at M$ tell me that I'm using Pirate M$ Product all the time as they don't sell directly, so it is now official M$ wants complete control so they are selling both Legit and Pirate copies of their products. :^0

Col 0:-)

by older mycroft

Will be that all the software will be impervious to piracy since it'll come WITH the machine.

Mind you if that were to happen, Steve Ballmer would be out of a job.

[i]I'm not talking about the 'Alliance'.[/i] ;)

by snuffy09

That?s when you just buy a copy of windows from a 3rd party like newegg or something. A merge would do nothing more than encourage me to continue building my own systems.

It?s bad enough when MS has to monopolize the software industry without Dell riding in the sidecar taking over the hardware.

by older mycroft

Various other phrases all of which led me back to the inalienable fact that M$ OSes are heavily flawed right out of the box.

Suffice to say, I have not seen a 'perfectly working bootleg of [b]anything since Windows for Workgroups 3.11[/b]' that hasn't eventually hiccuped due to some piece of its core being missing/messed with.

by snuffy09

You get an iso of the os that has been passed down the line.

by snuffy09

but as far as i know they are clean.

Reason for starting this post, I was just curious if MS was doing anything with windows 7 to make it harder to pirate, Tracking?, blocking?, or taking legal actions against people running bootleg copies?... I guess legal action may not happen due to huge numbers of hacked copies of windows out there.

by oh smeg

But they do regularly catch and fine Businesses who breach the Licensing. That can be a company who buys a Volume License for 150 computers and installs it on 200 and then proceeds to use them to save money or

A shop who buys an Action pack and then proceeds to load that onto all new computers while charging the customer for the M$ Product. Those places are Fair Game to M$ and they do pursue them diligently. Domestic Users though are just not worth while for M$ to pursue as they can not Name & Shame them in the same way they they do Business who steal from M$.

But the majority of Bootlegged Copies of M$ Products that I have seen are Volume License that has been misused so from that prospective they are the same as the Legit versions of Windows being sold but without the Activation Requests when you change Hardware. That alone make those popular.

Col

by snuffy09

you mentioned the term "action pack", is that like a site license for system builders? Sorry, that?s a new vocab term for me :).

Is it cheaper than buying a handful of windows licenses?

by slayer_

Where you got to login to their webservice to be able to use Windows.

And for those that say you can't update a pirated machine, its easy, let auto updates run, it will go till it gets the one about genuine advantage, choose to cancel and block that one, and updates keep coming. I know this for fact cause although I own an XP Pro key, I have the box and everything to prove it, MS decided to mark my key as pirated and therefore cannot pass the genuine advantage. I can still get updates through auto update. And MS is kind'a dumb, if you want something like DX9, it says you gotta do validation, if you scroll down on page it says "Download redistributable package here", click that and it downloads the offline copy of their installer for you :).

...Stupiddly I have a pirated copy of Office 2000, that passes validation, but my legal copy, fails validation... MS sucks!

by oh smeg

It's a Disaster at best and worse than useless in reality. It just Peeves off Legit Customers and does nothing to stop the real Pirates.

I used to buy Action Packs which come with Volume License Product and I can install this on up to 5 Computers. I Have a Current Action Pack with Vista in it but am using XP because Vista doesn't suit my needs. M$ claim that my copies of XP Pro are Outdated which they are but as they Can Not Expire it is perfectly legit to continue to use them and as I have the Vista Ultimate Version here not being used I'm perfectly entitled to use the XP License as long as I want to.

But the March 2009 WGA insisted that while the Windows XP Pro was valid the Office 2007 Profession was Pirate so it was crapped out. But the older Office XP Pro could be installed and used or if I have a Death Wish I could install Office 2007 that just doesn't suit my needs.

There is something Fundamentally Wrong when M$ claim that because the Windows Product has Expired they are allowing that to continue to work but are blocking the M$ Office 2003 Product while allowing the Office XP and latter versions to work without a problem. It looks far more likely that they just do not want people to continue to use the Office 2003 and force them to use 2007.

Col

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