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by tig2
Not hate. Hate is way too consuming.
Evil is the abject refusal to consider anyone or anything beyond one's self. It is sociopathy and worse.
Let's consider hatred of women as an instance you may be comfortable with. Evil is what motivated Gary Ridgeway (aka the Green River Killer) to mindlessly murder 50 young women. In his own words, they were nothing to him. In 50 murders, there was one that might have meant something to him as he had actively sought to develop a relationship with her. But he murdered her anyway.
Chaotic evil will allow murder for the sake of convenience. Evil does not hate. It has no time for hate. It may live in some people in IT. It is not related to IT. It is not a game.
Satisfied?
by fluxit
If there is a essence, being and virtue to Good and Evil then there must be qualifying character traits.
I would remark that the essence of 'Evil' is selfish and prideful. To being evil embodies qualities like impatience, anger, hate, revenge, etc...
I would remark that the essence of 'Good' is selfless and loving. To being good embodies qualities like patience, tolerance, humble, forgiving, etc...
Chaotic remarks there is order and that the past is irreversible, the present is emergent, and the future is a probabilistic outcome based on order.
The misnomer that I hate women originated as a 'maecuffism' that she transferred from some other guy during a disagreement. I only egg her on. I imagine she is a typical woman from Ohio.
by tig2
Let's start at the beginning.
Qualifying character traits:
Good:
Desirous of all good (wholesome and life giving) things.
Desirous to not inflict pain- apologetic in the face of same.
Comprehends other thought. Open to engaging same.
Seeking to help others- generally through empowerment, always through care.
Evil:
Destructive of life.
Uncaring.
Emotionless.
Seeking it's own ends without regard for outcome.
Repugnant.
The "essence" of evil is self absorbed. Being evil requires that there is no place for anything remotely humanitarian- except as it serves evil's desire. The goals of evil are often unknown. The result is often destruction.
The "essence" of Good is self unabsorbed. To feel joy in another person's joy. To act in ways that do not directly benefit one's self. To seek another individual's highest and greatest self. To do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with one's God.
"Chaotic" speaks to the extremes- never a good thing. Extreme good can be as bad as extreme evil. "I will kill you for your own good" is an example. Not to be confused with choosing to help someone to die who has asked for that assistance.
You appear to me to have a general dislike of women. I cannot speak to what you refer to as a "maecuffism". It is my own opinion and based on what I personally see.
Hatred requires Love to fuel it. it has energy all it's own.
by maecuff
No one needs to go to ANY of my posts to see that you are a misogynist. You do that fine on your own.
As far as 'egging' me on. I'm not the one who leaves these discussions in tears..or back peddling.
is live backwards.
This is not a coincidence....
by jonathanpdx
One of the best one liners that I've read on this:
"The only true evil is in treating another human being as a 'thing'".
If I recollect correctly, it was the British science fiction author, the late John Brunner.
Neil :)
by tonythetiger
never having to say you're sorry...
Sorry T2, I had an immoral obligation to post that.
by fluxit
by tig2
But I doubt seriously that you are on about that.
You are way twisted.
by fluxit
You sound to Star Trekish.
You have not observed anything except only that which you claim to see. So what is your reality?
by tig2
I don't watch Star Trek so don't get your drift.
I answered your silly survey and this is all I get? I actually had to think before I started typing and then proof read and thought through my response.
A sad waste of my time, apparently.
Edited to add a forgotten letter. Different keyboard and all that.
by capann
Your responses were not a waste of time. I was touched and moved ,which indeed is a sign of goodness happening. I think that some people do not realize what a life and death struggle there is between good and evil. Even within the individual the struggle is wrenching. I suffer through each day trying to make my way towards goodness without succumbing to the evil all around.
Thank you again for your thoughtful answers and for your attempts to bring evil into the light.
Ann
I doubt s/he/it is actually crying about it (although I havent read too much of it(s) stuff. However s/he/it is probably complaining to mommy on a daily basis (or a therapist). Heck, maybe mommy is it's therapist?
May even be that Mommy is not just mommy in it's family tree. I would cut this freak a break for a bit, and see just how it turns out.
I did like the 'maecuffism' though, I may have to use it in the future, especially if you start reaching for the shovel... :)
P.S. You do know that s/he/it's online name can be altered easily. Take out the L and this would explain a lot. FuxIt, I mean Fluxit does anything that moves (except hated females) :^)
Disclaimer: This is a message posted to Maecuff only. Anyone else should not read this or interpret bad things in any way shape or form. If you violate this then I dont want to hear about it. If you do post something then F.O., as I dont care. :^0
by dadspad
I can't backpedal, no bike!
Am I in trouble with Mae :0
by maecuff
I didn't put the disclaimer in..
:)
by jdclyde
Disclaimer: Messages or posts by me may be harmful to your health. If you have a bad temper or are easily egged on or annoyed by many things DO NOT READ my posts as some may cause PERMANENT and IRREVERSABLE brain damage due to warped content. If you have read one of my posts, and take offense in any way, you are AT RISK and need to Un-Read and Delete any memory of the offensive posts/messages.
To Un-Read my posts, simply Bang your head really really hard, several times, or have someone else do it to you. You should get AMNESIA (see amnesia in the dictionary). Amnesia comes with other risks to take into account, so does getting hit really hard in the head. Please contact your physician before attampting this procedure.
Please note: Amnesia needs to be implemented within 13 (yes 13) seconds after reading my posts/messages. After that some brain functions will be lost to you forever. The next window is 13 minutes, then another large part may be permanently lost.
by maecuff
by fluxit
Little princess Maecuff! LOL! You are pretty - messed up.
Bet you are a typical Ohio woman; a little pale, a little overweight (if not double chinning it), brunette or brown hair (dyed dishpan blond at least one time), with a hilly billy twang. I sense you may even wear glasses.
by dadspad
Is there evil in the world, you bet. Is there good, thankfully, yes. But the evil/good and love/hate are polar opposites. The do exist but at the extreme ends of a bell curve. That means that most of life is a combination that we must live with.
As far as I know, humans invented the concept of good/evil, love/hate. The rest of nature and the universe are not either of these, they just are. Even Chaos is not evil or good, it just is.
Now if your self image cannot get beyond the basic concepts or you think you are in a computer game, please seek professional help. You will not get it here, just our opinions.
As far as the females in IT, the ones here on Technet are perfectly capable of defending themselves, very few can even match them when they want.
I have been in the IT field for a long time. I remember when magazine articles, BBS conversations all talked about how the IT field was too geeky for females. In the mean time I was working with some terrific female IT personel. I think the IT field is much the richer when females came in to prove they can be as geeky and nerdy as men. ]:)
I only mean that in the best of ways :x
by absolutely
by dadspad
but Life (not to be confused by the game of the same name) is not a game. If you lose [life], no more turns!
Damn, you are right, let's play a game. This is too serious for this post. :)
by dadspad
by dadspad
I haven't had any bad reactions from your posts, most of them I have enjoyed.
Even the one that made you change your name. :D
This was kind of a joke post where I took the disclaimer idea and my mind and went a little wild. I really didnt intend it to be taken seriously in any way, just to add a few chuckles. :^0
Enjoy!
P.S. Thanks for keeping the YUKS alive recently. I havent had much time, but I really enjoy the extra effort on your part!
by mjwx
Memory loss is practically guaranteed and in both the short term and the long term.
Beer should suffice but if the damage is too severe I recommend moving on to Scotch, Bourbon, Vodka or Rum.
by maecuff
I have this cherished mental picture formed from the woman that has to be to match the quality of her posts and a few hints from source.
It is enough.
Trample on my illusions and I will seek you out and suck out your eyes!
Neil X-(
p.s. Using the same imaginative processes conjures up an image for you that, even if half right, may keep me awake tonight.
by dadspad
My reply was in the same fun way you meant the post. :D
Glad you like the jokes.
by dadspad
suck out her eyes? !!!! :0
Maybe your fantasies are to passionate! This may keep me awake at night. :D
Check the level at which I was posting. Had I wanted to post to Mae, I'd have addressed it to her.
As I wasn't wanting (at this particular moment) a (petite) combat boot up the soft parts, I was posting to El Fuxit.
:D
p.s. I've done that now to cater for latecomers and to make your post look dumb... :p
by dadspad
Never Mind! ]:)
note: visuals are much better now, and no nightmares. :0
by tig2
@sshole.
Mae is extremely young and hot. I could post some links to exactly HOW young and HOW hot but searching for them would just waste my time and serve to annoy me. Do your own homework.
Your opinions are useless and unwarranted. You are clueless and spineless and misogynist. On the other hand, you are vaguely amusing.
Mae is fabulous, and looks great. She also always knows which pair of shoes to wear on any given day. And according to well respected sources, is brilliant in black leather and scarlet lipstick.
I suggest for you a course in remedial human. Good luck with all that.
I'm trying to get some work done here and you juxtapose the subjects of Mae and black leather...
by tig2
You were the one who brought that up.
I simply recalled it.
And Mae IS fab in black leather and scarlet lippy...
Your words, sir. Just trying to help as it were...
:x
I have this thing for redheads as well...
:x
by jdclyde
I do have to laugh at the social retardation in people that make them assume that just because someone works in IT that they have a certain look.
I would say your all fluxed up? We could also make ignorant guesses about your current physical condition, but only an id10t makes statements about something they know nothing about. [i](like you just did)[/i]
And having SEEN pics of Mae, you couldn't be further from the truth, although it is killing me to NOT have need her in the black leather! :0 woo woo!
by tig2
Calm wasn't the look I was trying for.
But if it works for you...
:x
by jaqui
doesn't matter to me, I like em all ]:)
specially in black leather ]:)
ooohhh I just remembered, I get to spend eternity with mae :D :D :D
by tig2
You have been sorely missed.
And I mean that in only the BEST way!
:x
Did you find the link to the 3 Day pics???
by dadspad
Uuhhh! GA GA!
Now that brings up a lot of possibilities, none of them bad. ]:)
Wait, that could depend on your definintion of bad! :0
edited: left out important letter.
"...DO NOT READ my posts as some may cause PERMANENT and IRREVERSABLE brain damage..."
This raises two possiblities: either you don't read your own posts and don't know what you've said, or you've read them and become brain damaged. Which is it? I'm betting on the first one.
by tig2
He was trying to be funny. Maybe he missed- fair enough.
PSST- Pond Scum = W2KTechman.
It's a Steffi thing...
by cherokeebabe
IT Chaotic and Evil.... NEVER!!!
Just remember IT owns your ass we control everything on the network
LOL
by absolutely
makes a dull spoil-sport.
Thanks for your contributions to the Friday Yuks, Mr. Pad.
by dadspad
I always appreciate being appreciated.
And you can call me by my first name, Dad. :)
by jaqui
is your aim improving? ;)
nope didn't find the 3 day pics link, unless you are talking the ones posted this spring, then yup I saw them
by tig2
Try here for the newest pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/tricia.liebert/The2007BreastCancer3Day
My aim still sucks. Some things never change.
"What is chaotic evil?"
Look both words up in the dictionary. 'Chaotic' will be an adjective that modifies the noun 'evil'.
"Is it random?"
'Evil' is a philosophical concept and not statistically measurable. 'Random' doesn't apply to it.
"Why does it hate?"
'Evil' is not an animate entity and is incapable of hate, an emotional concept.
"What does it have to do with IT?"
Nothing, other than you asking about it on this site.
"Is it a computer game?""
See my previous answer.
There, that's solved. Now, move along; there's nothing worth seeing here.
by tig2
I may just show up and slap you for that one in person.
A woman in black leather smells like a new Harley. I know. I own black leather.
So much trouble...
:)
by tig2
Ask me about the thigh high stiletto boots...
Age gracefully? No thanks!
by maecuff
you guys are awesome..
And Jaqui, I have the lawn furniture on order, we're all set for eternity.
But the thought is making my mind race around......
Ummm, need to get back to studying and work now...
Nope, not working, my mind is still wandering...something 'bout Lipstick and Leather! Black and Red! hmmmmm...
by tig2
But Mae is really fab in a black leather corset and spiked black leather boots.
Now, you were thinking... what???
P.S. Mae always has the best... shoes...
Corsets aren't in this particular fantasy! It is MY fantasy that this subthread's about and I'm not at the corset level at the moment and - despite the re-appearance of Jaq', I'm not having spikes in it either!
Combat boots (and petite ones at that!) in my fantasy, thank you very much and I'm not even sure that I've ever brought up the subject of leather! I believe that the most I've ever mentioned (on TR) is "black gear, pale skin and red lippy" and that's fine for me!
Let's keep this a REAL fantasy - mine! - and not go wandering off into the realms of KINK!
Neil :D
by maecuff
I will just have to adapt my mental picture. I think I can cope without therapy.
:D
Doc Martens, mmmmmm. Go on, I have to ask. What size?
by absolutely
Start at the bottom and work your way up.
:D
by dadspad
I am probably alread brain damaged so you mostlikley did no additional damage.
Of couse I am a bit forgetfull too. :)
(What was it I just typed?) :D
from your recent description
"short girl, big feet" and the shovel thing, you are starting to sound like a hobbit! :^0
Tell me it aint so!!!
by tig2
I have just one word for you.
RUN!!!!!
Cause ducking won't save you this time.
Hey Mae- I'll hold him while you hit him!!!
wait, no, that is for GG's hidden webcams. I also paid for Steffi's pole and hidden webcams. Hmmm, I think I paid HAL for Shelly's as well.
Awwww I am broke now, so I dont get Mae's! :(
Sorry, out of monies.
by gadgetgirl
I knew there was something wrong!
It's not Col you should be paying, it's jd and Neil....
(Neil sited them, jd installed them)
(So they tell me.....)
:p ;)
GG
]:)
and I got a piece of that line for 25% of Neils offerings...
:)
Oops, I wasnt supposed to say anything... Sorry Hal!
by maecuff
by tig2
Can I shop in your shoe closet????
Men don't get it. We're young, we're hot, we can trade shoes. We are obviously EVERYTHING!
That isn't big. Certainly isn't 'petite', though. Ah well, another illusion shattered.
Neil :)
by absolutely
Immorality?
[i]Morality is in the same boat...that's why it cannot be legislated; it changes with the whims of the powers that be.[/i]
I have a problem with the saying that "you can't legislate morality". I think I agree with the meaning, but the words are wrong. It's less suitable for a bumper sticker, but more accurate, to say that we should [b]only[/b] legislate morality, and as little of that as possible. That leaves up to personal choice the maximum possible, which I think is where we agree. Words are only as accurate as their user(s).
by links
Apparently very few people have played Neverwinter Nights and the like...
by links
Don't mind you marking me off...After all its not like I enjoy adding those links to my posts and indeed I always do try to make worthwhile posts...
But indeed, make no mistake about it, I enjoy your irony and humor :D
by hal 9000
by tig2
I'm thinking that you should hang around for awhile. Your posts are generally good and you have a flair for smart @ss that is lovely to behold.
I'm adding you as a contact. You are a great addition to the gang!
:)
by links
I appreciate that...but I shall soon be making a new profile so that I can start with a clean slate...
As for any flair for (real or imaginary), I suspect that in this case I have been over-rated :D
Thanks again though, always nice to feel appreciated...
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