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Curious if I can put a processor rated 800mhz or above onto a motherboard who will recognize up to a PIII or Celeron 700mhz.

I have an ABIT BH6(rev.1) motherboard and would like to upgrade the CPU from it's current Celeron 333mhz ~ the bios upgrade will allow recognition of up to a PIII or Celeron 700, but what I am able to find locally is a Celeron 900 (min.) or a PIII 866...I would love to go as high as possible on this board without the possibility of doing any damage....I don't want tohave to install 15 fans! :)

Has anyone ever successfully installed a higher "rated" processor into a motherboard, and if so, what special precautions (if any) are necessary....

Thanks!!

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by techkid

There aren't any precautions because it probably won't work. If it does work, your 866 cpu will run at the 700Mhz. The memory you have would need to be 100Mhz or 133Mhz (depending on which cpu you opt for) so check that.

If your memory is 100 or133, I would say buy a new motherboard. You can find a decent board for a PIII 800 with a 100 or 133 bus for about $100-120. It would be well worth your while. If your memory is only 66Mhz then you're poofin. You would need new ram, new cpu so you might as well get a new board with it. Either way, pony up for a new board and get something that won't cause an ulcer

by burtonizer

Hey TechKid, You'll see above the board is an ABIT BH-6 ~ a 100mHz motherboard.......(memory isn't the issue at all; or maybe you are talking bus speed) ~ just if I popped in a CPU with a higher processing speed that the mb "says" it will recognize ~ thanks for you time though.

by james r linn

As long as your CPU has the right connectors(and there are many articles, including some here which will explain that better than I), its not a problem. Your MB is a sSlot 1 type - there are adapters to allow the Socket 370 CPUs in your Slot 1 slot.

Many motherboards "automatically" detect CPU, so it may get confused, you should be able to manually override in the BIOS settings. In effect you are underclocking to whatever the highest setting your BIOS will allow.

I have underclocked PIIsin a similar situation.

I don't think there will be any cooling concerns other than normal, because the chip will run cooler than if it was running at the higher speed. I would put in a good quality CPU fan anyway, as the price difference betweena poor fan and a good one is not that much. The machine will run hotter than it did with a C333, but if the MB is rated for 700 Mhz, should not be a problem.

Good luck.

James

by burtonizer

James, Thank you for your time ~ I am looking for someone who has actually done this in a similar scenario, preferrably with the same mb

by thechas

I agree with the other respondents that you should be able to plug in and use the 800 or higher, it just may not run at full speed.

My only concern about heat would be if the new CPU required a lower core voltage than your MB can provide. If so,no amount of fans will keep your system up for the long term.

A new MB would be a good idea. You would get UDMA 100 support and a higher memory bus speed. These would actually improve performance more than doubling the CPU speed.

There are bargins out there on factory refurbished boards. www.mwave.com has a number of refurb boards. You can get a new MB and CPU at 1GHz or better for less than $150.

by burtonizer

TheChas ~ thanks for the answer ~ i am trying to avoid buying something if I don't have to....this question has some of my peers scratching their heads! I really want to hear from someone that has done this instead of what "should" or "may" happen.....appreciate your time as well! :)

by timthetoolman

Hi,

It should be possible. Here's an article from someone who successfully underclocked his BH6!
Admittedly it was a much lower clock speed overall, but the theory is the same...

http://www.overclockers.com/tips05/

If you choose the 5.5 multiplier and 133Mhz FSB settings, you'll get as close as you can to you CPU's potential (732Mhz) but if your memory is only rated to 100Mhz, it might not be stable @ 133Mhz.

Cheers,
Tim.

by timthetoolman

ps. If your requirement to successfully answer this question is to have had personal experience underclocking a BH6, then you definitely had your tongue in your cheek when you said "easiest 150 points ever)! :-)

Cheers,
Tim.

by burtonizer

I am not looking to "underclock" ~ I am just wondering if i put a 800mhz cpu on a MB that will go as high as a 700mhz cpu, would it recognize the chip 1)at all? 2)and if so, at 700? 3)if not, does it hurt anything...

I wasn't tongue in cheek, iam sure someone out there has done this ~ somewhere. too often tech's say "should" instead of "yes, it works" or "no, it won't work". that is what I am looking for ~ the person who has done this will collect 150 easy points...

by timthetoolman

Hi,

The problem you're going to have is that everyone will say "should"... unless someone has actually done it in a BH6!

This is quite unlikely. Most home built PCs are as state of the art as people can afford. Home techies are like that. And even if some people have done it, then chances are they wont regularly subscribe to this site...

Still, you may be lucky so hold out for a bit longer...

I assume you weren't satisfied with the article I posted? The CPU was underclocked and worked OK.

If you try this yourself, you may have to manually set the FSB and multipliers as the motherboard may not automatically get the information correctly. That wont be an issue as to it working or not, though.

Make sure you've got the latestBIOS.

If you're really worried about this, why not buy a celeron 700? You should be able to pick one up on an auction site. It'll be cheap too.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pclink/cpu.html

$54. Plus a bit of postage. What more could you want?

Cheers,
Tim.

by burtonizer

Thanks again for your time Tim ~ I appreciate your responses.....I am not going to attempt to do this now....I love auction sites and am a regular on Ebay, but am weary about buying a used processor from someone and having them ship it in the mail ~i am going to move my 700mhz cpu from my PC and buy a 1ghz for it...that'll be good; I was just looking for a less expensive, easy road. New 900 Celeron CPU's are sold in my area for only $65. Would have been nice to know if I popped that in, if itwould work ~ hassle free.

For hanging in there you get the 150 points....take it easy.....

by timthetoolman

Even better...

AMD / Shuttle Duron 1GHz CPU w/AK12A Motherboard Combo : Current bid $105

!!

Cheers,
Tim.

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