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I have a amd 1700+ , the power supply has that sunny fresh, yet burnt smell... But on replacing the Power supply, i get nothing, no post beeps, no video, etc. I know its possible for the ps to take out the motherboard and CPu as well. Do you think this is what happened? I reseated everything first, and then took everything off of the mobo that wasnt necessary. I also reset the bios, hoping that would help, nothing.

My other question is this: Ifyou havea cpu chip that has fried, and put it in a new motherboard... will that cpu fry the motherboard as well, or vice versa? thanks

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by dmiles

No it has not been my expierence that the CPU can cause this to happen,once placed in another motherboard it will not function and you will get nothing from the cpu as far as instructions to processing.

I would check the cpu in a board that was not being used to see if it will work.
If you suspect that the cpu is fried then you will not get a signal from the cpu or from the motherboard because of other chips that may have been damaged on the board

by thechas

Take a close look at your motherboard.

Look at the large capacitors (silver topped cylinders) for bulges, or liquid residue at the base.

There was a large lot of Chinese capacitors that were manufactured with an unstable electrolyte.
If the caps are bulged, or leaking, contact the motherboard manufacture for a possible replacement.

Next, look at the large resistors and transistors near the CPU.
If any of these are bulged or scorched, the motherboard is indeed toast.

If the components on the motherboard are burnt, you can all but guarantee that the CPU itself is bad also.

While not 'typical', it is possible for the CPU to be damaged in such a manner to cause the motherboard regulator circuits to fail.

Personally, I wouldnot risk a $100 motherboard just to re-use a $50 CPU (current price for a 1700 Athlon XP at www.newegg.com).

Even if the CPU is not dead, if the voltage regulator on the MB failed, the CPU is damaged, and is not apt to live long in a new system.
Chas

by zekeallmon

I RMA'd The whole unit to where i bought it (yeeha-mall) they said it was the cpu, but wont replace it for some reason... Oh well, dont shop there, I am accepting your answer because it is at the least an educated answer, and I know that you know what you are talking about, thanks again!!!

by orpheum

second answer first
no..once the chip fried, it will not have enough current to damage the motherboard..make sure it's the chip and not the mobo first.

secondly,
i'm betting you just have a faulty or fried pwr switch wire or terminal.
listen carefully.
put everything back together, look at the pins sticking out of the mobo that the power switch in front connects to with a red and black pair of twist wire. follow the tip which should have a jumper like clip and write down the location of the 2 pins it is seated in.
now, with a flathead screwdriver, short out the 2 pins (touch them both at once) for 3 seconds.
you just jumpstarted the bitch

PS i wear a grounding wristband when i do this
PPS reconnect the wire, and if you require another jumpstart next time, better replace it. i've never had to replace them, just a temporary electro-pulse problem.

by zekeallmon

I accepted this answer, because "jumpstarted the bitch" although i didnt get to try that due to RMAing the whole unit, I am printing this out, so i can try that down the road, thanks!!

by jkaras

My roomate's AMD processor got fried recently while making changes to the computer. Needless to say we ordered a new one and installed it properly and no beeps? After exhausting all possibilities we called our techno guru to make a house call. Inside three minutes he got it to post up. How did he do it? He removed the processor and pushed down a resistor that was standing a little too high in the middle of the processor area, meaning the processor wasnt making a complete connection. It appearedthat it was making a connection and we merly plugged it in like the previous one, we never thought of that but it was the problem. Do you get any power at all? Voltage switch set properly? ( not to offend, just stupid question on new power supply)

by jkaras

I'm thinking of trying AMD with Abit or Asus boards but not sure of the reputation. Barring this issue you have any issues with your setup? What Mobo you using?

by jkaras

thx, for the reply on the boards. I definitely want AMD processors and the word of mouth points to all three. Most swear by them all and some just swear. Gunna roll the dice and see what happens. cya

by akula

A blown CPU won't do anything to a new board. Nothing will occur when the machine is switched on. Looks like your mobo and maybe your CPU are toast as well- did you install the heatsink correctly (AMDs are really touchy about that).

As for the question about AMD+Asus or Abit, I have used motherboards from Asus, Abit, and MSI with AMD. I have had no problems with any of them, and in fact those are really the only manufacturers I consider for an AMD box. With an Intel product I add Intel to the list, but that is it.

by digital_dna

Sorry People, I'm with the Chas on this one. I recently had a customer bring me a computer that experienced a power surge. I replaced the power supply and the motherboard and reused the CPU. The computer came back three days later with a blown MB.. "Things that make you go Hmmmm"!

Now when someone brings me a system which has experienced a power surge I replace all three.

ebcdic

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