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anyone know if a computer will start if processor is not working? what would be the signs? please any one help?

i turned my comp, the fan runs, the heatsink fan runs, the video card built in fan runs, but the dvd drive doesnt open, and the video output is not going through the monitor.

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by thumbsup2

No, a computer can not run without a processor. What you're describing can be any one of several things.

Tell us what happened just prior to turning on the computer and finding that it won't start.

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by dsaviorx77

I guess its not the proccessor then because it did turn on..i checked my power supply and its fine. my comp turns-on then it loads up, then all of a sudden, it turns off on me. could it be the proccessor over heating or i wonder could it be the memory?

by oh smeg

Or Low Current from the PS. It all depends on what happens here.

If when it shuts down it's off stays off and will not restart it's Heat Related and could still be the PS as there are Components in that that are heat affected. Look at the Fan ion the PS to see if it's actually running for Starters and is the PS clean?

If however the system goes in to a continuous Loop of booting to a certain point and then restarts I would look at the PS and replica with a Known Good one to test the old one. It's about the only way to fully test a Computer Power Supply. There are after all have several different circuits and judging them Good because the Fans run only means that there is 12 V DC present. It in not way implies that there is even sufficient current on the 12 V DC Line to correctly run the computer.

Col

by oh smeg

M$ used to have a Error Code 6 which meant that there was no CPU fitted to the system. Of course when on the rare occasions that this was displayed it didn't mean that there was no CPU Fitted just that something wasn't working right. I've only ever seen this Error Code Once and it was so wrong that it wasn't funny. Of course if M$ had of made it well known what this was I wouldn't have wasted the best part of 2 days trying to find out what it was insisting was wrong and just wiped and reloaded again.

Now to your issue if there is no CPU fitted or working the PS [b]Can Not[/b] run. With the old XT power Supplies that actually switched the Mains Power this was possible but with ATX power Supplies it is not possible.

Here I would be looking at a Faulty power Supply being the first option. What happens is that one of the circuits goes bad and that Voltage stops being delivered. This can be 1.3 Volts, 3 Volts, 5 Volts or 15 Volts.

As the Fans are running the 12 Volt DC Rail has power but there is no guarantee that anything else has any power what so ever. Even though there is sufficient power to run the Fans there may not be sufficient Current to provide enough power to allow a Optical Drive to open or otherwise work.

If the PS is OK look at the M'Board. Look for any budging Capacitors particularly those around the CPU and any other damage. This also includes less obvious things like Dull Solder Joints that have gone bad.

Col

by dsaviorx77

i checked all the components u told me. the ps is clean. i also have the power supply plug (to check if the power supply is ok) and it gave me the green light.

by oh smeg

Not Current. At best they are only a Guide to if the Unit may work.

After all it doesn't take much current to light a LED does it? ;)

The only real way to teast a PS is with a Known Good PS temporally plugged in to see if the unit now works. Then if it doesn't you need to test the existing PS in another computer to see if it can start and run that.

There have been numerous cases of PS's testing OK with ATX Testers only not to work the computers. I still remember one guy who replaced the M'Board, CPU, RAM, Video Card and Video Capture Card in a new computer after the PS had died. Seems that he too thought that the PS was OK because the Fans ran but when he hit the power button on the case the Monitor displayed a [b]Not Connected[/b] message which was a dead give away.

Anyway he had a working M'Board, CPU & RAM after I replaced the PS and had most of another computer ready to go.

Col

by rob miners

Faulty Fans, Dust and Grime build up on the Heatsink restricting air flow. I would give the inside of the case a blowout with compressed air. When blowing air through the fans make sure that you physically stop them from spinning, as they may generate power and blow something up. Remembering to ground yourself by placing the back of your hand on the Power Supply Unit and not moving your feet. By not taking this precaution it is possible that you could inadvertantly cause damage to the PC from an electrostatic discharge. Then remove the Heatsink, giving it a thorough clean and reseat the CPU applying new CPU grease. If the Fans spin freely when you give them a spin they are probably OK. If there is resistance replace them.

Clean the golden edge of each memory stick with a soft rubber/eraser, remembering not to touch the golden edge of the memory stick. Check with one stick at a time, remembering to disconnect the power from the PC.

Also check Capacitors around the CPU for swelling or bulging.

As the capacitor ages, its capacitance decreases while its equivalent series resistance (ESR) increases. When this happens, the capacitors no longer adequately serve their purpose of filtering the direct current voltages on the motherboard, and system instability results. Some common symptoms are:

* Not turning on all the time; having to hit reset or try turning the computer on again
* Instabilities (hangs, BSODs, kernel panics, etc.), especially when symptoms get progressively more frequent over time
* Vcore or other system voltages fluctuating or going out of range, possibly with an increase in CPU temperature as the core voltage rises
* Memory errors, especially ones that get more frequent with time
* Spontaneous reboots
* In case of onboard video cards, unstable image in some video modes
* Failing to complete the POST, or rebooting before it is completed
* Never starting the POST; fans spin but the system appears dead

Keep us informed as to your progress if you require further assistance. ;) :D

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