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Will Windows 7 be yet another Vista?

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by enfield_john

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I'm wondering if Windows 7 will be avoided and ignored as much as Vista has been. I've talked to so many people who have uninstalled Vista and installed XP on their new computers that came with Vista. I also know a lot of people who have built their own computers and if they installed Vista at all, it was as a dual boot. I did a dual boot install of Vista with XP on my own home built PC and I have found over the past year and a half that I have been using this PC that I hardly ever use Vista. I only installed it so that I could get familiar with it and be able to help customers who have questions about it. I'm seriously considering leaving it off the hard drive the next time I do a fresh install (which I do to my computers about every two years or so)since all it seems to be doing is taking up space.

Lots of businesses I've visited to work on their systems and others I've just been a customer of still use XP. Some even still use Windows 98 or Unix on most of their machines. Very few places I've gone to even have any PCs running Vista.

What do you guys think? Will Windows 7 get the Vista treatment too or will it be so much better than XP that people will actually upgrade to it?

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by ---tk---

I really don't know... but what I do know:
1. When XP came out every one complained how it required more power, and it was bloated.. bla bla bla
2. Vista comes out, same thing... everyone complains...
3. windows 7 probably will not require a system boost, but I'm sure it will be just as unstable as XP (w/o a SP) and vista (w/o a SP).

So like every other OS from MS, I will wait till Win7 gets its first SP before I purchase it. And for the record, I use Vista Ultimate, XP Pro, and Ubuntu at home...

by oz_media

I found Vista to be the most secure and stable OS (out of the box) ever released. I think teh most insecure eer released was XP, what a nightmare that was when new, and how soon people forget we had these identical discussions before. "XP sucks, none of my hardware works, I can't find drivers, I have a virus and haven't done anything with it yet, bloated, why should I upgrade hardware etc.

People just bitch and whine unless they actually HAVE anew machine and hardware, they feel they shouldn't be forced to upgrade. Nobody forces people to upgrade, they just get benefit from doing so and implementing new technology.

YOU aren't forced to buy a new car after all, just because it has a more fuel efficient motor but a new car owner will indeed benefit from it.

by the scummy one

I dont know a lot of people even talking about Win 7. However, many people still complain about Vista, months and months after being moved to it.
I would guess (note: guess) that many companies looking at upgrading systems on Windows networks, will move over to Win 7.

by p.j.hutchison

I have Vista on my PC at home. Although its okay it is slow and resource hungry as people say it is, but, it is very stable and nice to use.

Now I have tried Windows 7 beta and wow, it is waaay better than Windows Vista, its fast and responsive and better to use than either XP or Vista. It'll work on lower spec machines (you still need 1GB or more memory but thats all) and it will work fast. I like that much that if it came out tomorrow, I would switch to Windows 7 immediately :-)

by oz_media

Face it, so many people bought into Vista BS that they stuck with XP, some with valid reason but most without.

The biggest whine from XP always ended with "I'll wait for Win7".

Other rants included, 'you need to buy new hardware' and the 'licence cost is obscene'.

So now that WinXP will be two generations old, these people will have no choice soon but to upgrade in order to keep up.

This means a predictable run of, SEE I told you Win7 would be better. Though they have since bought new hardware and incurred a software licence cost, despite their previous whining. It's just so typical!

SO with these former naysayers alone, they will boost Win7 sales right off the bat, then with all the BS marketing that will follow, "Vista finally replaced", "New MS OS a big step up from Vista" etc. it goes without saying that Win7 will do better than Vista. Though I personally have NO problems with Vista in a newer notebook, i run all kinds of apps that most people wouldn't even know how to begin with, I run full office suite, recording studio, video editors, 3-D (Maya) modeling you name it, no problems, even the latest games all on a cheap, retail, $1000.00 notebook.

With the release of Windows 7 RC build, which is already cracked and all over the free download sites (just as all rpevious versions have been also) Win7 feedback is strong. I tried an earlier build and found it pretty good, but no big screaming improvement over Vista, even if it did use less resources, I've never really had slowdowns or resource issues with Vista anyway.

People will have to upgrade this time in order to keep up, gamers will need updated drivers and DX files, those who upped form 2K or ME to XP will have old hardware and will buy a new PC with Win7 preloaded. Etc.

I think the NEED to upgrade this time, will certainly outweigh any new OS fears from the usual crowd.

by oz_media

Pretty dumb move actually, especially with NEW computers.

New computers use multicore processors, XP does NOT have the ability to manage processes on a multicore processor. Therefore your operating system does not keep up to the PC's abilities. a properly tweaked Vista will outperform it, it has even been proven here in our forums that Vista DOES operate quicker than XP in all but a few minor tests. The peer compared a stripped down Vista to a stripped down XP, Vista won across the board, the basic install was faster and a tweaked install was faster. He did some very fair tests, including service pack comparisons and recorded benchmark scores, all were beat out by Vista, putting the "vista is way slower than XP myth" to bed.

Vista is NOT slower, as an operating system, than XP is. In older computers, XP may run better, but as far as calculations, read and write times etc., Vista was a clear winner.

From my own comparisons, on my notebook Vista runs better than XP does on other people's XP boxes and I don't have some killer high end notebook. Just a low end HP, retail store junk notebook.

Was Win7 faster? Not that I noticed, and I ran Win7 for at least 8 weeks through two different beta builds.

by p.j.hutchison

I did have an Athlon XP 1.7 GHz with 1GB RAM and Vista was noticably slower than Windows XP. Upgrading my PC to a Intel Core 2 Duo with 2GB of RAM made a huge difference with Vista. Windows 7 would have worked better on the Athlon XP system than Vista would have.

by torofe2000

It boots faster than Vista and seems to have gotten rid of some junk. But folder views still won't stick and where is my classic, customizable start menu? I have an RC of Windows 7. I'm not inclined to buy the market version at this point. Linux may be my only OS very soon. Fixing Windows is tiresome, but it pays the rent

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