Email pet peeves

You are having an episode of thought. Be still. It will pass.

Now that I've gotten a good nights rest, along with some fresh ground coffee this morning, there's no telling what I'll think of next.

BTW- Checked your email inbox lately? I've a tale to tell that I think you in particular would find quite interesting. You were actually recommended to me. You're on a list of consultants. :D

Check all three. Nothing.

Is it something that can't be said in polite company?

I have the read reciept turned off, or basically, never send one.
As for the message flow -- yes, it makes sense. But then I gotta remember stuff. I am in some yahoo groups and yahoo email puts it on top. So basically (call me lazy) I just use the default for the mail program that I am using.

. :) If we corresponded much you'd drive me crazier.

instead of email I'll ask here :)

Do you have a link to the avatar of the Oooh, never mind. I can use the GIMP to extract it!
btw -- I was just grabbing some things from your photobucket (the one I know about) :)

I will try to work on that answering in linear fashion thing. I do apologize. :)

Not by a longshot. It just seems to make more sense to me. I guess others can unravel it just fine but I have some correspondence that goes back and forth all day long and we've had to settle on the linear format just to keep from getting lost.

It can be and has been said in polite company here at TR before but I'd much rather say it direct. After you read it you'll understand.

I've just sent a copy via gmail, lets see if that works. Let me know here if you don't get anything shortly or you could send an email to me. You know where I hide. :)

Also, check your spam inbox. Maybe I'm being filtered out.

Got it this time.

I do remember that earlier this morning I saw an entry in my personal inbox of only 2KB with a from line I didn't recognize, so I deleted without opening.

This time I saw the same, but it was 10KB. So I opened and read it.

Question: do I respond to the "from" or to you?

It is interesting and catapults me into an answer that neither of you may anticipate.

Looking forward to your reply.

be sure to install MS Cryptic Language Translation pack. B-)

I wink and grin at both of you.

that a couple of my friends do continually in spite of my having requested several times that they stop:
Forwarding something that already has a bazillion headers to scroll through, just to get to a bad one liner. I don't even read them anymore. How hard is it to remove all those headers, leaving only your own? Not very.

And perpetuating urban myths. That one drives me up a wall. I Reply All with a link to a debunker.

K. Finished now. (I think.)

I've a biker friend that used to do both of the things you described. I like talking to him but I had to set him straight too.

I get forwards from work emails that've been floating around forever from my wifes work. I tolerate her but she's the only one. At least she knows to use Bcc:. That's another one of my peeves. Sending to God and everybody without using Bcc:. Irksome.

by charliespencer Sep 6, 2008

It's bad but tolerable when someone at work uses "To" or "CC" for a laundry list of other employees; at least my address isn't being compromised. When a relative does it, I gently ask them not to but tolerate as long as it's only family. When an external business contact does it, I warn them once and then terminate the relationship if possible on the next violation.

E-mail clients should default to BCC if more the addresses involve more than one domain.

I agree with the first part. I almost always -- when sending jokes REMOVE every other header.

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. :^0

I just might do it right here.

I gots a certificate in gutterspeak, too.

You're treasure.

edit: remove something I'd no right to give permission for. Scattered.

I told you so. I exhort; it is exempt.

Hmm. I NEVER use it myself. I just assume that it gets there. There is no equivalent in the snailmail world and emails not getting to where they are supposed to go without an NDR coming back isn't anything that I've had issues with. Who would DARE to treat an email from ME as spam?

Now, I have it set to prompt me for a read receipt so if anyone sends ME a mail with one, I think long and hard before I click "Yes send it".

For you Ropes, seeing as how it annoys you, if you send me a mail...

:^0

Lets you and me go have an ale.

Before they made some 'upgrades' I don't recall ever having any problems but afterwards some emails just vanish into the ether never to be seen again.

Read receipts help me because I have some slight issues with paranoia too. If you'd follow me around you'd know that. :D Not getting a RR is virtually the same as crossing the street to avoid talking to me. I'd rather be told to eff off so I know where I stand.

Nobody else does, though. :p

You know, that makes so much sense! :D

Until you dig a bit.

We all use Outlook where I work and that puts the reply cursor right at the top. If I scrolled down and put my reply at the bottom, all of my regular correspondents just wouldn't find it. It would drive them MAD. It would drive all of us even madder if we didn't all do the same.

I've long since got used to the idea that the bit that I want to read, the latest reply, is at the top each time. Seems to make sense to me. Only when I'm coming new to a long correspondence do I want to read the chain and I've long since got into the bottom-up mindset for that.

Have at you -+---->

At least I can get some of my regular correspendents to do it the 'right' way. I'd much rather scroll down to the current message so while scrolling I can scan the previous meesages and refresh myself.

I'm betting I'm almost all alone in my crusade. This is nothing new.

It's a small thing but it still yanks my chain. It just seems wrong, to me. How come nobody asked for my approval?

who to ask for approval. I've been digging and digging in an effort to find the approver, but until just now had no luck.

Of course, now I know where to go, I'll be sure to run things past you. :D :D :D

fix emoticons

They didn't ask me, either.

I must admit that I prefer the latest at the top. I guess that it's because most of my email is work-related and it generally comes back pretty quickly.

Perhaps we could compromise on diagonal?

I mean that too.

Seems like email software could be set-up so that it'd start at the reply no matter if it was at the top, bottom or in the middle. The way it's set up now had to be inherited, just like the qwerty keyboard.

Don't hesitate to ask. :D

because I dont wanna scroll through everything to find the latest message..

Why can't the software take you to the latest message no matter where it's posted in the body of the message. What kind of POS email software are we all stuck using? It's all the same. It needs some smart programmers to rewrite the crap.

We should invent "ScummyMail" which will work the way email should :0
:^0

Excellent idea! :^0

The point, regardless of detail, rests near the end in three contiguous sentences:

"I think that what we see isn't all that there is. It can't be or else what happened...could've never happened. There's something more to life than meets the eye."

The experience was also punctuated with an entirely appropriate, "WTF was that all about!!!"

Me, I get that a lot.

The mind's eye, end of seeing and experiencing, was not equal to the task ("WTF"). Does not compute.

Okay. Assume two givens. First, the mind's eye, and second, that of which it can make no sense other than that it also is.

Components of the first, no matter how arranged and rearranged, fail to make sense of the second, other than a palms-up, not invented here; not even inventable here. Which is where you get the exasperating "there"; the "something more; the second given.

Without having to touch the second, not saying we can or not; just putting it aside, suspicious even of it being a given; turn equal suspicion to the first. Don't nobody get away with nuthin here. Besides, your mind's eye is the one in hand (isn't it?). It is the chief suspect and readily available (isn't it?).

Start there, by interrogative means of the second. WTF do you think I've been doing all along?

Please don't illuminate. Thank you.

Me? I'm still mulling over your reply. Not invented here certainly applies.

I have a book you might be interested in reading; you know the one. I'll send it to you if you'd like if you will return it after you're finished reading it. I just rediscovered it the other day and I need to get thru it again first. Just say the word.

Take your time, both with the book and your reply, even if you don't get around to the second.

"Obscurantist" may be the word (you) have in mind.

To which of course I answer, I gotta tell you Everything all at once?

I'm finishing up "Choosers Of The Slain" by James H. Cobb but the other one is definitely my next book. No doubt finding it is what triggered the memory. It was good to find it in the first place.

by charliespencer Sep 6, 2008

I can't speak for other e-mail clients but Outlook and it's crippled Express default to inserting new text at the top. If Microsoft does it, it must be right :D

Seriously, there probably are those who assume that if the software does it, it's the right way. Me, I prefer to have the new stuff at the top. Most my e-mail on a given subject goes back and forth between the same people. Why scroll to the bottom when I and the others involved have already read the older content?

And that the most recent text should be at the bottom. Gmail does it right. It's nested replies go from the oldest reply to the most recent with the oldest reply being at the top. All you ever see is the most recent text unless you click a reply above it to refresh your memory.

by charliespencer Sep 6, 2008

My comments should be left justified at all times, regardless of how far down the tree they are. Everyone else's comments should be right justified. Replies from different correspondents should be in different colors or fonts.