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IT Talent Shortage -Again

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Hey guys and gals, the trade press propaganda machine is at it again saying that there is a shortage of IT professionals.

Check this out from InfoWorld:

http://weblog.infoworld.com/daily/archives/2007/10/giving_voice_to.html?source=NLC-DAILY&cgd=2007-10-25

If you have time ,please give them feedback as to just how much of a "shortage" there really is.

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by big ole jack

so that they can hand out more H1-B visas to benefit ole Billy since he pays those Indians and Chinese workers chump change and works them into the ground while his pocket get lined with more money. There is no shortage of skilled IT talent in the USA, only a shortage of skilled IT talent that will work for pathetic salaries and for rediculous hours and crazy work conditions. As an American, I don't stomach the idea of writing code for 18 hours a day and having to share a small apartment with 10 other people just so I can survive.

by pgm554

I see this every couple of months in the trade rags and their online blogs and just wonder where they get the impression that there is a shortage of skilled IT people.

I live in the Silcon Valley and unemployment for IT folks is still at about 6 or 7 %.

Far from the skills shortage they are whining about.

by big ole jack

and since many non-technical executives will be reading this crap, they'll petition their senators an congressmen to increase the number of H1-B visas being offered. I see such crap coming out of so called "Professional IT Association" and wonder in whose best interest are they really serving if they keep perpetuating this horsecrap nonsense? It's the greedy corporations who want everyone else to believe that Americans are dumb and aren't as smart as cheap foreign labor, when the contrary cannot be further from the truth.

by jkameleon

I don't think talent shortage propaganda ahould entirely be ascribed to H1B dispute, because this phenomena is much older. The first known appearance is about half a century old. It was an article in Forbes magazine, warning us about imminent shortage of nuclear scientists, nuclear talent crisis, so to speak.

Talent shortage shouting is not specific to IT either. In my part of the world, there was a lot of precision mechanic (http://www.feckl.com/training-jobs-feckl.htm) shortage propaganda around 1980. Reason: Era of mechanical printers, registers, and typewriters was coming to an end, and number of young people interested in this profession fell accordingly. Typewriter industry panicked, and lobbied for more young people to become precision mechanic. Result: A lot of unemployed precison mechanics.

Economic motives for shortage shouting other than H1B are well known: Universities want to maximize their tuition income, and industry wants workforce surplus.

Shortage shouting epidemy can also erupt on its own, without willful lobbying effort, because of incompetent management. A lot has been said about technically clueless HR failing to select proper candidates for techical jobs. And once techies are hired, one way or another, there is also friction between clueless MBA managers, and techies. If something goes wrong, the path of least resistance for the manager is to blame techie, like "you failed to stay withing budget and deadlines (determined by me) therefore you're are incompetent". Scapegoated techie will eventually be sacked, layed off, or fed up. Then the real fun begins. No manager in his right mind will ever say: "It doesn't work because Joe was the only one that had a clue about it, and I let him go". That's far smarter and easier: "Joe was totally incompetent, and he left a mess. We would already hire somebody else, but we can't find suitable candidate for his position." This one is even better: "I, the super competent manager, got a bunch of new projects, our business is expanding like crazy, but alas, we can't finish the projects because we can't find suitable workers. It's a talent crisis, see. It's all because the today's youth. They are dumb, lazy, and ingrate, and they don't want to study for the jobs we kindly offer to them. We were much better than these brats in our time." Once such excuses are repeated often enough, from enough members of ever abundant supply of incompetent managers, they start to echo throught the media, and thus the talent shortage myths are born.

Talent shortage propaganda never indicates real shortage of talent in certain profession. It indicates

- that the profession in question is in trouble, that there is a strong pressure on salaries. H1B and offshoring is only one of many ways of decreasing the wages.

- that profession is in decline

- that profession is plagued by incompetent and clueless managers

- that profession lacks long term perspective.

H1B and offshoring is very useful for finger pointing, but actually, it only part of the part of the problem.

by cg it

Just try and get a decent job in IT. Without a degree & 8 years experiece, no one is going to look at ya.

And the latest stat is 50% of those in IT don't have a degree...

go figure

by jmgarvin

The problem we're facing is that we honestly cannot find people that have a broad scope in IT. You REALLY need to know SQL, IIS, Win2k3, ITIL (at least to some extent), and have a small clue about scripting.

by cg it

That's the problem with IT, no generalists and it is following what happened in the medical industry, that is everyone is a specialist.

Granted IT has gotten complex, however, companies can't afford to hire a specialist for each specialty in IT.

To bad many medium and large companies want a degree in computer science rather than experiece.

by jmgarvin

Generalists are a dying breed. I feel like at my company we have the last of them (which is a sad commentary). Now, it's true I'm not an expert at everything, I am an expert at somethings and my kung fu on various tasks ebs and flows as I focus on specific tasks.

With that being said, it's depressing seeing the kids coming out of school now. They aren't ready at ALL to get started. I mean you expect them to not be ready, but to not even have the first clue is just depressing.

by hallowed

Short reply: Students have no experience so I'm inclined to agree with you.

Long Reply: I'm on my work term now after taking a 59 week course (no breaks), I'm working as an assistant to my school's network administrator, and I agree about the kids coming out of school. I know I worked my rear end off to have my MCSA, CNA, A+ and Net+. I know that most of my classmates have yet to pass a cert because most of them don't feel prepared to take it, or because they're among the many who simply will end up not taking any at all. I know that when most of the other students finish their work term, they're not going to have meaningful jobs, and probably end up doing tech support at a local call center because they're not ready for the work environment. The problem is that the certifications that we are training in school for are designed to be taken after having 6-9 months of experience, but other than 4 weeks of labs I have no experience working with Exchange. I don't feel prepared to take my 70-284, but I know that with study and practice exams i will pass, the same as I have with previous certs.

If you want quality IT personnel, then you need to get involved. Talk to your HR or hiring manager about taking on a student or three, We're sponges. We work cheap, and in most cases will work for free and we'll do anything. If you tell a student to fix your growing pile of broken desktops so you can work on something more pressing, we'll do it with a smile for the chance to ask you questions abut what you're doing so we can learn from you. I would have (and still might) give a leg to work in a large IT environment in an administrative capacity.

Taking on a quality student gives you the chance to shape a generalist, give them experience in the technologies you use. When we're done school we have a "nasty" habit of being loyal to a company that took a chance on us, We have experience working with you, and you know our strengths and weaknesses. If things go horribly wrong, you don't have to worry about firing a student since they don't work for you, and there's always more to take their place.

If you're concerned about the quality of work, have a chat with their instructor. It's the instructor's reputation on the line, and their not going to recommend a student who can't do the job. The career services staff at my school are the nicest people, but they don't have many contacts in the area for IT placements, and it's always difficult to find quality jobs for students when they finish their courses, and the problem that I'm finding is that there's an "IT Talent Shortage" but nobody's willing to fill the void with entry level positions.

Now, I'm not a manager of any kind and I'm sure that there's details about staffing that I couldn't begin to imagine at this point, but it seems fairly rudimentary to me that you should encourage advancement from within and bring in new talent to fill the junior positions and cultivate the next generation of IT staff from within.

As an example, I'm assisting the admin of my school because otherwise, I had the option to operate a printer in a manufacturing setting, or do tech support at a call center. Either of those positions can be done by uncertified candidates, and though they are entry level, there is little to no advancement available to either position. I would much rather take a junior admin position and have the experience under my belt when I go looking for full time work in December.

Besides all of the other excellent reasons to take on a student remember that most people were students at one time, Someone took a chance on you or took you under their wing and I'm sure that you remember that person fondly. So take a minute on a coffee break and ask your HR if they're willing to provide you with a student, Besides, if there's one thing that i know, it's that the words "Free Labor" will perk the ears of any manager, and most will be willing to make a free phone call.

Am I totally off base?

by jmgarvin

My point, in general, is that is you are atypical. A lot of students are coming out of college with a VERY limited scope.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I am saying you aren't the norm.

by jkameleon

... and I'm still here.

I think that's the only way to stay in this profession for longer periods of time.

OK, I know, it's relatively easy to get a clearly defined specialist job, but after 4, 5 years at most such job will either be obsolete, or outsourced. It's just not worth to specialize into anything in IT, fashion is changing too fast.

by larryd4

Our posting closed for a level 2 I.T. Analyst and we received 3000 resumes. Of those 1500 were not directly qualified.

Yeah shortage, now we have to weed down to 20..

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