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We have a few computers, few new one few old ones that are having a common problems. No matter what we try and do NORMAL.DOT does not recreate it self. I hav tired to delete all normal.dot so it would recreat but does not do that. Pointed it to d a new location but still no good... Any one has an idea?

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by jaydev

When I open word it opens up. I do a search after I close and before I close, there is no NORMAL.dot. I am viewing hiddnen files and folders. The reason i want to create a new normal is this. I make changes to default fonts and it does not stick. I set the font size to 14 and click on make default and still it doesn't do it.

by carlos.nino

Why don't you create a new document with all the fonts, etc. you need and save it in c:\ as normal.dot. Then copy it (overwrite if there is one) to the directory where everybody points at to get it and see what happens. You can also make it read-only.

by jaydev

Carlos--
I have tried that sort of a matter. Unfortunatley, that does not work either.

by dklippert

Look in Tools>Options>File locations
Word is using Normal.dot when it opens. Sometimes it can be located on a network drive, as well

by bizzo

As mentioned before, open Word, go to Tools->Options->File Locations.
Look at the locations for "User Templates" and "Workgroup Templates". These may be either on a local or network drive. Once you have the locations, make sure you have write access to these locations so that Word can save the Normal.dot file.

by jaydev

Sorry Rich IT does not create normal.dot after deleting. I opened word and still no go. Thanks for the try...

by jaydev

Thank you all. I have checked all the basic settings...tool options file locations. I have changed the file location i have disabled the network normal so its not pointing there. I have never ever seen this before....

by richtee

This is a tried and true method.

On the individual PC, Use find/search to locate all instances of Normal.dot.
Delete all of them.
Open Word and close Word
Use find/search to locate (and make note of) the instance of normal.dot.
Open Word and create the document you want to be your new normal.dot.
Save this document as normal_1.dot to the same location as the normal.dot
Close Word.
Browse to the location of the normal.dot and normal_1.dot files.
Delete normal.dot
Rename normal_1.dot to normal.dot

You should be okay now. Good Luck, Rich

by jaydev

Thank you Rich for the comments and advise. Here is the problem, WORD DOES NOT CREATE NORMAL.DOT. If it did that I would not have the problem. If I create one manually it does not update FONTS and SIZE when I set them as default. So I deleted all the normal.dot files. I opened up word, and then closed word. Guess what I found when I did a search for normal.dot There was not Normal.dot created. This is just too weird... I know it should work...but it does not

by dklippert

What hapens when you use a blank document and Save As Document Template and name it Normal?

by jaydev

I have done this. It creates one. When I point file locations to this new normal nothing happens. When I restart pc and try to update the NORMAL.DOT settings it exits without updating. The new file sits there without any changes.

by jaydev

YES and it does not prompt. No more suggestion about tools and option and filelocations please. I have checked all the baisc and advanced options.

by pptmagic

Have you checked to see if these folks have a ~Normal.dot? If so, delete it and see if a new one gets created.

HTH,
Glenna

by jaydev

Glenna--
Please read other answers. This baby suggestiosn were already made.

by pptmagic

Hi JayDev,

I just went back through every submission and did not find anyone mentioned deleting (tilde)~NORMAL.DOT. Not NORMAL,DOT but ~NORMAL.DOT. These files get created when Word is shut down ungracefully.

Let us know.
Glenna

P.S. Exclude me from any award points, I'm just curious...

by pptmagic

Also, these files are hidden files, so make sure you include hidden files when searching.

Best of Luck!
Ms.

by mgates

try this to wipe out word and begin a new...

go to start, run
type winword.exe /a
reopen word and you will be prompted to ask for users name an initials like you just installed it.

this will work for versions 2000 and above. please let me know if you have an earlier version.

good luck.

michael

by techrepublic

had this problem on both laptops after installing pdfmaker aka adobe acrobat 7 trial edition. the normal.dot template was never saved, i could watch a
~normal.dot file form, but it never became permanent.

remove adobe acrobat, do not allow adobe to install any 'macros' in word if you reinstall.
good luck.

by jaydev

If anyone is curious. thank you all for posting. One of the admin's who did not ask anyone, decided to change templates locations for company and forced it via policy. I think i only asked him thousand times if any changes were made...

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