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If he wants to grow old someday...

Most of the people I checked out on a list that had their names attached were education PHDs. I never did find a group that were really using the best reporting of weather world wide, FAA-NOAA world wide weather measurments...

This would only give 65 years of US data, but Where I live in Ohio we are averaging -9 degrees below measured average highs. June and 48 at night, Brr!!

We have set multiple month record lows for this time of year. Why are record lows blamed on global warming?

conditions back then were different. oxygen levels or other gases were likely much different. for much of earth's history, oxygen levels were low and the envt was much dift.

like you, this person appears to look at the evidence selectively. as an expert who looks at climate ages ago he may not be someone who models current climate. all evidence available says that the planet has warmed considerably and will continue to do so.

(short of us putting so much particulate cr*p in the air that large amounts of the sunlight is reflected back into space - nova last night, large parts of the earth are getting 10 to 30% less sunlight than the last 65 years, due to pollution particulates, which cancel out part of greenhouse gas effect of warming)

the other thing is that us govt testimony from 'experts' tends to pick and choose what they want to hear. one 'expert' telling (previously pro-allowing us to warm) congress what they want to hear is quite different than a peer reviewed paper.

quite possibly he said this so that it would be taken, out of scientific context of reviewed paper, as 'fact' by idiots like Rush Limbaugh, who also pick and choose what they want to hear, and quite frankly pick facts that are just made up.

- as we all know, everything said before a govt committee MUST be 100% fact. Good examples are Barry Bonds saying he doesn't use steroids - which is also a good example of govt concentrating on the important issues. forget warming, crime, global politics. what some idiot baseball addict uses must be important.

to the second poster, increased warming actually increases variance in climate as winds and weather patterns change and amplify.

and combining this with the second trend of 'global dimming' where vast pollution particles cause sunlight to be reflected in some areas, there WILL be areas that are colder than usual due to more cloud cover.

Unhappily the particulates only reverse part of the global warming caused by the 'thermal blanket' effect of greenhouse gasses.

Give it up, Max. You'll always be able to find someone who says it is NOT occuring. Do you really ignore all the other evidence?

for Maxwell Edison in one or more of the following categories:

1. Science -- for being the world's leading expert on global warming (human caused or otherwise).

2. Psychology -- for his insight into the workings of the human mind.

3. Mythology -- for his insight into the origins and development of a myth.

4. Social science -- for demonstrating how a large proportion of the world's population can be fooled into believing in a myth.

5. Religion -- for creating the new religion of "Edisonianism" of which Maxwell Edison is both the God and the Prophet, and of which the fundamental doctrine is: "Human caused global warming is a myth." Members of this religion are required to practise evangelism and proselytization to inform and convert the ignorant masses of the world into believing this most fundamental and essential truth.

6. Service to society -- for saving the world's population from the scourge of this myth.

Maxwell I have always known you were stupid, because of your black-and-white world view, and your entrenched bigotry.

Over the past few months however you have clearly revealed that you are in fact a complete idiot, as in having no perceptible cerebral activity whatsoever.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060623/ap_on_sc/global_warming

I see what you mean but disagree. Sure, I don't 'kill myself' over it. Because I like to look long term, I'm worried that the heating will cause massive eco disruptions which could hurt many and kill many more.

The problem is, by the time it starts bothering you, it may be irreversible.

And you may die before that but your descendants, if any, and other people will have to live with the earth as it then becomes. We may do enuf horrid things to the earth to create a stagnant cesspool of the oceans, and seering deserts of the land..

Just by looking at the ads for the site it is obviously a "reputable" news source and not just looking for the highest number of hits.

Max we?ve been through all of this before.

CO2 is [b]one[/b] of the many pollutants created by the combustion process. Before you jump on this Maxwell, yes I am focusing on combustion (cars, internal combustion engines) combustion (coal and oil mainly) is the worlds most prolific forms of energy production (about 75% to 90% of all energy production, not just electricity or transport but all energy production). Please try to dispute this point max.

Combustion produces many pollutants. These include mercury doped gases. (mercury is poisonous to us humans (so don?t worry max you're safe) which is heavier than air so then falls to the ground and can pollute ground water supplies, 1st and 2nd world countries filter mercury from water supplies before it is piped to our homes. Next is Nitrogen Oxide (NO) which is a key ingredient in acid rain NO + H2O produces nitric acid. Which when placed in an efficient delivery system (like rain clouds) can decimate crops (which have no real protection from the elements). There are many others such as CFC?s that eat away at the ozone. The ozone is reported (from news.com.au) to be slowly repairing itself, proof that pollution limitation measures can work (in Australia we?ve eliminated a lot of CFC?s from aerosols and refrigeration).

What CO2 does is two fold, one it replaces oxygen (in the breathing process) in the atmosphere (making it harder to breathe) and creates a blanket in the upper atmosphere which traps heat creating a "Venus" like effect. Also some will point out that trees use CO2 in the photosynthesis process but what those people don?t know is that some synthetic CO2's (mixed with other chemicals which change the produced CO2 slightly by mixing it with trace elements) cannot be used in photosynthesis but these gases have been severely reduced by anti-pollution treaties. Secondly there are not as many trees as there were 100 years ago [b]and[/b] we keep clearing them away.

Now unlike yourself max, I can?t post a link to a politically geared website. I got my information by talking to a scientist. A geologist to be exact who talked my ear off about climate change.

TJ, extreme temperatures especially outside of season (cold summers and hot winters) is predicted to be an effect of climate change. Currently in Perth it is 22 Degrees C, average Max average temp is 20 Degrees C (for June) Highest recorded temp is 25.7 Degrees C (for June). Now a few days like this and I would say nothing is wrong but this is the third consecutive week of about 20 Degrees C weather in June. So far this month we have received about 25 mm of rain, we're supposed to be getting 40 to 50 mm of rain. I'd also hazard a guess but that 25 mm of rain fell in all of four days this month. BTW for anyone who hasnt guessed its winter here in Australia.
http://www.bom.gov.au/

Also Max, remember that once scientist that goes against the norm gets a lot of attention. People are attention seeking animals.