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http://news.com.com/9-year-old+earns+accolade+as+Microsoft+pro/2100-1012_3-5793614.html?tag=nefd.top
Well I guess I had better start training my son now. I wish my parents had been that cool.
by the admiral
This backs up what I have been saying all this long. That the reason seasoned professionals are not needed is due to the innovative minds coming up.
I don't actually believe that, but it does put the question up in the air again is what value does certifications add when you have seasoned technical personnel who can not pass it and a nine year old who can?
by jamesrl
I never look at certs as anything beyond a simple milestone. Certs mean you have been exposed to the material and can parrot it back. Doesn't mean that when you run into something not covered that you can troubleshoot your way out.
Its a milestone. I have a couple of team members with 20 years experience each in DOS/Windows based systems, and very experienced in NT/Server 2000/Server 2003. Neither of them have certs, and I don't really care if they get them. If they want them, I would support their efforts, but they don't need them to do their job.
I am not trying to take anything away from the young person - that quite an achievement. But it doesn't necessarily translate into real world success.
James
by tomsal
Heck I've had my MCSE cert for nearly 6 years now..and you know what? I don't think I ever did/relied on anything I got strictly from my MCSE "training" EVER.
It has all been just doing the job that needs to be done -- good old experience. I also research on the net, with folks I know in the biz and I buy books...lots and lots of books to refer too.
Its almost a sore subject to me when I think how much money I blew on getting that cert and all the time (that I view now as wasted) studying...so many nights of free time, gone...BAH!
by oz_media
by firstpeter
All things equal I'd take a person with certification simply because it says that they a) took the time to learn the material and take the test, and b) they might be able to use that information at some point in their careers.
It's basically the same thing as a college degree - all things equal you take the person that showed they would stick with the good, the bad, and the ugly for four years. The degree doesn't mean anything in and of itself (most folks I know learned more in two years in the workforce than four years in college) aside from the fact that you "paid your dues" and didn't run from the hard work and sacrifice.
And like James not to take anything away from the person in the article, but the certification tests promote "in the box" thinking, which is okay in the real world but not ideal. They don't give points for "creative thinking" like you get in the real world when you do something out of the box. As James mentioned a certification doesn't mean "that when you run into something not covered that you can troubleshoot your way out.".
by jck
I would never advertise that.
How much does it say about the ineffectiveness of your professional testing when a 9-year-old child who probably doesn't know what a "finite automaton" or a "tcp wrapper" is can pass your "professional" standards of testing.
God...reminds me of when I was in high school. I hadn't studied for the Amateur Radio Technician exam. I was riding up the highway in one of the examiner's trucks...memorized the 250 question pool in less than 30 minutes. missed 2 of 25 questions on the exam.
It's just proof to me...their exams are a joke and in no way prove "technical proficiency" with their product...only the ability to recall published information about them.
by tomsal
Why is this so astounding that its actually news worthy?
You mean to tell me with all the brain dumps for years, all the people in the IT biz for years saying how easy some of the tests are, all the countless flame wars in the "Certs vs experience" threads...and people are shocked ''OMG a kid got MS certified..eeegats!!!''.
What about the kids that get master's and bachelor's degrees at extreme young ages?
What about kids that have math/science skills that run rings around most adults?
Heck my friend's 10 year old already speaks 3 languages -- one is shaky, but the other two are quite fluent.
Kids aren't inherently dumb, neither are adults...its jsut all how you apply yourself to something plus your drive/will power, etc.
This news is nothing in the least surprising to me at all.
good for the kid.
by itgirli
by tomsal
Yeah the one angle of this topic that I have to admit is kind of a shame is -- what happened to just being a kid these days?
Aside from just this issue with the 9 year old going for an MS cert, just go to your local mall and look at the exampe of how so many parents are practically forcing their kids to grow so darn fast these days. From how they expect them to act to how they let them dress, its a real shame.
I don't know about you guys/gals but one of the best times of my life was during my childhood. It was great just being a kid.
Today it's like the innocence of childhood just keeps slipping away more and more.
And my god if my sister had worn some of the clothes that todays 15 year olds wear...omg my folks would of came down on her big time.
And let's not forget how much attitude and cursing todays kids have in them...jesus -- today a 12 year old will curse out an adult as if he/she was an adult his/herself!
If I pulled that stunt (or any of my siblings) when we were growing up...good lord...my dad would have had his foot up our arse and we'd probably be grounded for at least 2 weeks without any radio/tv/computers/games/toys/etc.
Today its nearly accepted that punk kids (and I'm sorry if you are a parent of kids that are disrespectful...yes I'm talking about YOUR kids too then!) curse at their elders.
So yeah to bring it all home...its kind of a shame -- this girl probably locked herself up reading MS training books of all things and taking practice exams instead of being---well a little girl and playing and enjoying the one period of our lives where we aren't expected to be completely responsible.
Anyway just my little rant on the matter.
by djameson
by jaqui
that getting a microsoft certified sales excutive ticket isn't hard. ~G~
isn't it mostly a multiple guess exam?
after all windows is designed so anyone can use it, why be suprised that a child can get certified on it?
by hal 9000
The name of the author of this piece of info was Colin Baker?
I knew the name
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/episodeguide/index_sixth.shtml
He is actually a Time Lord who most likely brought the girl back from a long time in our future where she studied Windows in her History of the early computer class. :p
Col ]:)
by rarodberg
I've recently (nine Years) learned it's not what you know but how you apply what you know that makes a living.
A nine year old girl getting a MS cert is impressive only if she contines to learn.I'me 50+ and learned on a TRS-80, but what I can to with VBA has made me a defacto "Guru" among the management and users where I work.
A College degree is what I made a living for, to provide a better life for my kids. I grew up being told You'll never make a good living without a degree. Oh I beg to differ with you, I'm not rich but I can enjoy single malt scotch and not worry abut retirement (in three rears).
Granted a Cert is a regurgitation of facts but she proved she could learn higher level procedures at an early age and I expect great thing from her in the future. As long as she does'nt rest on her laurels, like college gread do and expect a living and go out ank work for it. She has proven she can succeed and is willing to do the grunt work to learn the basics and God only knows what improvements she will see ( and make ) in the future.
by gralfus
by hal 9000
To be children?
Why are we so intent for them to grow up so fast? Why are the parents at Kids sporting events so unruly?
We are setting a very bad example for our children by not allowing them to be children but always out to win at whatever cost. That should come latter if at all as really we do not need to step on toes to get what we want. We do not need to be constantly planing revenge for something that we take offense to.
This is real life not a Soap Opera on week day TV!
If that is what the kid wanted to do without being pushed well that's great but I've seen many examples particularly in athlete's where the kids are burnt out by the time that they are 12 years old and all that potential gets wasted.
Col ]:)
by jaqui
if a gifted child is not pushed at the right time, then they may never live up to thier potential.
( know this one real good I does. ;) since even after burnout I test over 200 on iq tests, yet never really got motivated )
I'm not knocking her for getting the cert, but it isn't a cert that is as hard as a masters in computer engineering. ( which she could get if she chooses. )
by gralfus
The child in this instance didn't sound pushed, she sounded curious and pursued it to understand it. It was a game to her. I also disagree with crushing the life out of kids for the sake of an ideal. But many gifted children can really blossom under the right conditions and not only attain great things, but enjoy doing so.
Conversely (from the parents), public schools can crush gifted children every day by forcing them to conform to "average", when they can never fit in. My wife told me about a boy at the gifted camp she just attended who said "They keep picking on me and harassing me. All I want to do is play, but they won't leave me alone!" My wife explained to him that she faced the same problems, and wished that someone had been there to tell her that she was ok the way she was. She always felt like there must be something wrong with her, or they wouldn't treat her that way. I somehow had the attitude as a child that the jocks and such were evil, so why would I want to be like them.
Thus, it is the schools, the jocks and the top-of-the-social-ladder types that put these gifted children through hell every day. I know, because I lived through it myself. I could never fathom why they felt compelled to harass me when I didn't bear them any animosity, and hadn't done anything to them. I guess this is where Darwin/Lord of the Flies camp comes in and says that they are the fittest and should "win". We intelligent types either crawl into our shells as protection, or find truly devastating methods of revenge. Thankfully, even with all the crap I put up with, I didn't snap.
Anyway, we need to find better ways to protect and encourage gifted kids. They are really a national treasure and often a joy to be around (provided the parents aren't jerks).
by oz_media
It's not some new window into life development that we are seeing here, this is simply another highly gifted child. Child prodigy and exceptionally gifted children stories have filled our lives for centuries.
I applaud the young girl, while some may wonder what her IT career will offer her, what if she didn't even WANT to work in an office and help users? I very highly doubt that this girl will be wanting YOUR job, her office attitude at this time is pretty irrelevant. I am sure she seeks much higher than that, as claimed she has some pretty big goals already.
These are the types of minds that create the most advanced technology that sees us entering new ways of conducting our lives.
I say, provide her with whatever she needs to grow and learn more, provide her nothing but support. SHE might be the person who just happens to stumble on a cure for everlasting youth before we all get old and fossily, she may be in grade 9 science and discover a cure for aids, you just never know.
Pat her on the back, send her back to Disneyland for a visit, but her an even better computer and encourage her with whatever she persue's.
Mind you, that's my theory for all children. Encourage and support them in just about anything they want to do and give them the tools they need to succeed.
by hal 9000
Don't push them to do something that they don't want to do!
Or for that matter either push them to work harder at something that they like now. If you allow the kids to do as they want within reason they are better for it. I've seen far too many kids who wanted to do something and then their parents get carried away with a little success and drive them into the ground so that they eventually hate what they once loved.
Col ]:)
by the admiral
Once she hits the public school system though, kids go from 200 to 70 in less than 6 months.
The excuses will be: She has ADD, ADHD, she is hyper.
None of them will ever say "She is too damned smart to be in the 3rd grade, she is soo bored that we have to move her up. Let's put her in the 4th."
by m_a_r_k
by dmambo
Good rant. I remember summers wearing hand-me-down clothes, causing minor neighborhood trouble, having to apologize for causing minor trouble, watching Gilligan's Island again, and my mother forcing me to write out the multiplication tables.
Now it's all camps, organized sports, summer enrichment programs, etc. And worst of all, shopping!!! I'm as guilty as the next parent. But I think I learned as much in some of my totally leisure time as kids today learn in adult-sponsored acctivities.
by oz_media
I was allowed to do whatever I wanted, lessons, sports teams, cubs/scouts etc. If I was interested in astronomy, I got a telescope (ot always new top of he line but enough to peak any interests).
I was never pushed to do better, but always push myself. I am one o those people who will willingly do just about anything for anyone, but just don't TELL me to do things, or I will often purposely NOT do them. I control my time, not other people, I have always been that way though.
by m_a_r_k
by jamesrl
I do give points for having a cert, but I value other things, like customer focus and other "soft skills" more. Someone with aptitude can get trained on any skills or knowledge lacking but its hard to train customer focus.
A university degree on the other hand, in just about any discipline, shows some level of achievement, even if its about getting through 4 years. You may not learn something relevant about technology with a BA, but you do learn how to research, analyse, study, write etc. Can't say the same for an MCP.
James
by hal 9000
Almost every Under Grad that I've ever run across only did the course for the money at the end of it.
Granted there are a few who don't do this but even when I was at Uni the vast majority where like that they never questioned the Lectures but just blindly accepted what they where told as "FACT" that was impossible to be anything else even though it was clearly wrong to any half wit!
Everyone that I know with some Post Grad papers doesn't think that the time was well spent and all say that it was a waste of time and money as what they learned there was of no use to them in the work force but it did gain them bigger pay packets where they could get employment without being considered as Over Qualified for a job.
I know one Civil Engineer who when through Uni a long time after I escaped the place and he couldn't get a job in his field of study even though he was top of his class he now collects garbage for a living and has a side business of making sails which was more of a hobby that has taken on a life of its own now.
My own personal Degrees are nothing but worthless pieces of paper that only gave me the right to go out and start to learn my chosen trade once I had escaped the Education System.
While they do have some weight it is more likely to count against you because you actually have the things rather than be to your benefit. Anyway give me someone who has paid their dues every day of the week and I'll be happy with them every time. :p
Col ]:)
by jaqui
by firstpeter
I'm not sure I agree with your assessment of what you learn with a university degree. I can say from my experience (both from getting by BS and talking/watching others who got their degree) I walked out of there gaining more knowledge about how to apply for a student loan than I did how to research/analyze/study.
Most of those skills I came in with - I found very little opportunity to extend them or learn new ones. What I have learned since my high school days was in the workforce where my career success depended upon it - not whether I got an A or a C on a paper.
by the admiral
Just remember FirstPeter, Mr. Scott on Star Trek did not care about the manuals and certifications, because he wrote them.
So you bypass the person who creates the materials for the person who can understand them, but may not have the experience to fix them?
We had a Microsoft Certified Server Specialist who was supposed to be a whiz at server code. We had to fire her because she screwed up the servers so bad that we put a tekie who worked out of his house on server issues on it to fix it.
I am not an advocate for saying that certs mean nothing, but if I hire a certified anything, then I expect them to perform out of the box, I can no longer wait for them to research to get up to speed. They perform or they are replaced with someone who can perform.
You will see that this is what alot of companies are doing now. Show me the money, not the fluff.
by firstpeter
My point is that all things equal I'd take the certified person.
Not that certified people can walk on water, not that they automatically know their stuff, not that they can turn servers into gold (unless by turning them into gold you mean turning them into something that doesn't operate like it should).
by m_a_r_k
> if a gifted child is not pushed at the right time, then they may never live up to thier potential. <
The key word is "may". If pushed too hard, the kid may burn out. It may not be a totally accurate comparison but Michael Jordan (a pretty good basketball player in his day) didn't play organized basketball until he was a junior in high school. I grew up in a small town and went to a small school. We had only the basic organized sports of football, baseball, basketball, golf and beer-drinking. I often wonder if I could have been a world chess champion or world champion karate guy if I had the opportunity to try some of that stuff as a kid.
by jaqui
with not pushing is that since the gifted find it relatively easy in schooling in most cases ( educationally only ) they are not actually challenged into working at anything.
I'm not saing push them into graduating with a masters before they hit puberty, but help them find the mental challenge that will allow them to reach for the stars.
I spent most of my school years bored to tears in classes. it may have been from reading 3 complete sets of encyclopedias between grade 1 and grade 2 ( summer time enjoyment ) all I know is that I never had to really put any effort out.
this is perfectly exampled:
walked into algebra class, saw a set of three equations on the blackboard. sat down looking at them, figured out they were a set, and solved them. the class started and the teacher asked if anyone knew the amounts for the variables.
I gave him the answer.
he asked how did I get them.
they are the only numbers that make the equation work.
this was the class introduction to complex, polynomial equations. 2 minutes to solve, in my head, having never seen one before.
by m_a_r_k
by m_a_r_k
by oz_media
That seems to be th ecase in junior hockey these days. Parents have forgotten to let kids learn and have fun developing the proper social skills in team sports.
Dad, being the armchair hockey coach, has the opportunity to play his own real live game with his kids. "Always listen to your coach, but my ideas come first, no matter what he says".
by m_a_r_k
by zlitocook
by hal 9000
I'm not complaining if this is what she wanted to do but I've seen far too many cases where the parents have pushed the child to do something that they couldn't ever hope to do for various reasons and this has always been a bad thing.
I'll use my son as a example here he attended swimming classes and was trained by one Kerrin Perkins I'm sure you have heard of him as he has a few Olympic Gold Medals to his name. Now along with Kerrin was another girl who was just as good and her parents where not satisfied with the way she was being coached so they moved her to another coach who pushed her into the ground the result was that she walked away from swimming for many years and when she wanted to return she was way too old so she now competes in Triathlons her brother who did exactly the same thing was killed in a training accident a few years ago now so that will most likely give away who she is.
But the point of the matter was that she was just as good as Kerrin but not allowed to develop her interest in swimming that she so dearly loved at the time she was pushed beyond her means and broke out and rebelled which resulted in her never reaching her full potential. At that time Kerrin was about 13 years old and he under the same coach went on to become a World Record Holder and a long term swimmer which the other girl was also quite capable of doing if she had of been allowed to pursue her dreams rather than being pushed all along the way.
My son on the other hand while being a good swimmer just loved to swim and as his Coach said on numerous times he just lacked the "Killer Instinct" that Kerrin had and he would enjoy swimming but never go into competition on any real level which is exactly what happened. ;)
Col ]:)
by hal 9000
The best steals have to go through the fire to reach their full potential or best quality.
The same applies here what you went through at school made you what you are today as did everything in your past life.
But I've found the trick to life is being happy in what you want to do. I could be working for a big company with all the perks tomorrow if I really wanted to as the mongrels will not leave me alone and keep coming up with outrageous offers so I'll return, but I really am no longer interested in doing any of that I like to be able to have a bit of time to read some tech manuals play a bit {though a lot more time would be even better.}
When I started this business it was to get away from "Big Business Completely" the idea which went horribly wrong was to work a couple of days per week spend at least one day per week reading mostly tech manuals and some books that I wanted to and play with my play toys which are classic Mercedes and a couple of Classic Ducati's. But it didn't quite work out that way I only lasted 12 hours before every one of the people who used to work under me approached me with a list of clients and asked for a job so I thought "Why Not" I can have these guys do the work and I can still play but of course it didn't work that way as I keep getting called in when any of the techs who now work for me runs into problems and I'm constantly on call no matter what. I don't get the time to play with my play toys I hardly get any time to read even the monthly Magazines that come out let alone tech manuals or the stuff that I pick up at trade shows and the worst thing is that my Boss is a real mongrel who will not allow me any Holiday or sick time off.
Even when I dropped a Mercedes on myself and nearly died I had a LT and mobile phone in the hospital beside me by the time I had been transfered to the ward from emergency. Of course the guys all went out of their way to make sure that I had a semi-permanent Internet connection through the mobile phone and a ready supply of batteries and a charger to recharge them as they ran down. Then they worked out that I couldn't be on the Internet and answer their phone calls at the same time so I ended up with 3 mobile phones 1 for the computer and net and two for phone calls and to me this was a rest. :(
But as we now only do work for small business I find that I'm working a lot harder and appearing in court more often as an "Expert Wittiness" when these small business get taken down and things go wrong. But I sure as Hell don't miss the bad old days where I was working with Big Business and their unwieldy rules and time frames.
What's even worse I actually like it so I really should be locked away on the loony bin for my own and the publics safety. :D
Col ]:)
by hal 9000
We have subjected your son to the most rigorous Scientific Testing and come to the conclusion that you should buy him a shovel to pick up the horse dropping on the road as he will never amount to anything.
When he left school he worked in a Patent Office and taught himself maths which he had previously failed miserably. From that point on he was the exceptional Physicist that he was and always will remain that way, but he also had a wicked sense of Humor which I think came from the way he was brought up and the way that he had been treated when young. He was an evil genius who spent more time laughing at his own work and those who spent so much time on it that he couldn't believe that they spent so much time and effort in trying to prove him either right or wrong.
Most of the time he spent laughing at himself and the way that his work was taken so seriously when not even he thought that it was all that important. God I wish I was older and could have meet the guy instead of having to settle for just studying his work.
Col ]:)
by jaqui
by hal 9000
If you are willing to work and wanting to work and not one of those types who believe that the world owes you a living you would be winning Hands down every time in my books. :D
But then again what would I know? :)
I only ran several IT departments and have a couple of PHD's into the bargain my favorite one though I must admit is the one that Neil awarded me on the "Sexual Practices of New Zealand Sheep and their farmers!" :p
That one makes a lot more sense to me than those that I did on Mechanical Engineering, Electronic Engineering {before there where computers} and Applied Physics. While I can tell you a hell of a lot about Metallurgy, the way that computers actually work or Nuclear Reactors and other rubbish not a single one of those addressed anything at all that is involved in a current OS or the way that programs actually work. But if you want to know exactly what is inside a CPU I'm your man although it is a fairly pointless exercise as they either work or don't after all you can hardly repair one when it breaks can you?
But if you want to know all about P/N junctions and how they actually work I'll be able to put you to sleep through total boredom. :) I was once asked to give a 15 minute talk on a simple PNP transistor and 3 hours latter I was still answering questions it ruined the class for the guy that was actually running it and what was worse they wanted to keep me there talking. ;)
Col ]:)
by jaqui
since I grew up on a farm, raising bacon on it, hard work ain't an issue.
you kind of learn that work is a part of life when ya have to shovel several dozen tons of crap every year...haul tons of feed.
( or be cruel and starve the bacon on the hoof )
even today, farm kids have thier head screwed on straight about work.
it's the suburbanites and city dwellers that don't have to work as much that develop the attitude of the world owes me a living.
most of the street kids are the worst for that attitude, pan handling ( spangeing in the lingo )
to support thier drug habit, getting free food from the charities offering it.
by systemsgod
With all the materials out there like braindumps, Testking, etc. you really don?t need to know much anymore to pass certs...you just have to memorize the right answer. Granted, there are some who still do it the old fashioned way and really learn the material (and this 9 year old may very well have done it that way), but, this hasn?t stopped the cheapening of certs in general by braindumps.
I see from many of the posts that some value the certs over experience. I feel sad for those of you who feel that way. Nowadays anyone who can regurgitate what they read in a braindump can get a cert, and it's really just that easy. You can interview these types for a job and ask them a test question and they will spit the answer out for you in a snap. Ask them to solve a problem that you wouldn?t find on an exam, and you get some interesting looks I tell ya! Sometimes I need my hip waders just to get through the BS so I can leave the office and the stench they left behind.
Those that value the cert over experience are only kidding themselves. They truly believe that they are getting something that they aren?t, and that's a real shame. Without experience to go with it, any cert is useless. Those that go out and get certs without first having the experience are only setting themselves up for the fall. Most seasoned IT managers know the fallacy of certs, and realize that you need experience with or without certs to do the job well.
I have personally seen techs with MCSE credentials that had no idea how to correctly install a hard drive. I have also seen some who had no idea how to troubleshoot a bad nic. Six years ago I worked with a paper MCSE on a printing issue, and he had no clue where to even begin (it was so sad and pathetic...). Certs cannot turn a bad tech (or, an inexperienced tech) into a good one. I would take pure experience over the cert any day of the week.
Now, I am not against certs as a whole. I think an experienced tech can appear more balanced with some certifications. I personally have an MCSE (both NT 4.0 and Windows 2000), but, I honestly dont know if I will go any further. What I need to know about XP and 2003 I have already learned, so I may just save some $$ and not take the exams. My boss certainly wont give me a raise just for getting a cert (he knows about braindumps too).
by hal 9000
YOU'RE HIRED!!!!!!!!
Start at 7.30 AM 22.7.05 Local Time. :D
The fact that you will not see this until the wee small hours of this time zone only makes you try harder to get to work. :p
Actually I spent a lot on time in my younger years on a sheep property but it was 10,000 aces and a lot of sheep. Shearing time was always fun but the last time I was there we spent most of our time shooting sheep because we where in a Drought situation and couldn't even sell off the excess sheep so we where protecting our breeding stock in the middle of winter we spent all day shooting sheep then when we got back to the homestead reloaded the 22 shells and then grabbed a bit of sleep and then started it all over again.
It was too expensive for the fuel to dig holes and push the carcases into them so we just burnt them on a pile along with a lot of Diesel Fuel that is a smell that I'll never forget.
But if you aren't here on time I'll take it that you don't want the job. :)
Col ]:)
by jaqui
since it's now.. 1:10 am pacific time ( gmt -7 )
ain't no way to make the 18 hour flight there.
~L~
gotta get that matter transmitter ( aka transporter ) working. ;)
by hal 9000
I've got to leave here by 6.30 AM to fix an I-Pod installation on a CEO's computer. Apparently he has ripped or downloaded over 6 K of songs and wants to take them on his Acer NB so he can download them to his new I Pod for the International Trip he is going on on Saturday.
Now since I work all day every day with this "High Tech" :D hardware I just know how easy this is going to be. I don't think I've even actually seen an I Pod other than in a picture on a add and I'm supposed to be the "Expert! :)} NBL!!!!!!!!!!! I can see another day wasted just so one of these guys with more money than brains can have his play toy working as he wants it to while I learn all about Apple I Pods and their software. :p
And he's paying me to do this. ;)
But I don't care how you get here and I'm very helpful you'll get all of 2.5 nanoseconds of orientation and then be thrown in at the deep end. Every one of my staff will tell you just what a mongrel I am to work for but the funny thing is that while they love to complain it was them who approached me for a job when I set this place up and they brought along a already established customer base.
So I'm now taking lessons in being an "Absolute Mongrel" and trying to get then all to go out on their own so I can get back to my ideal setup 2 days a week work 1 day per week reading technical manuals and the rest of the time to play with my toys. If only I could get this to happen the collection of Mercedes and Ducati's would be all finished it full show condition within 6 months and I could then start on some more new cars to restore. :D
Maybe I could give them the business and just hire myself out to them 2 days per week that might work. :) But while they all complain to me I hear reports back from the clients about just how good they think I am to work for and I really don't think that any of them would allow it to happen as they all know just how far I'm prepared to back them when problems arise.
It's just not in my nature to leave them to their own devices when they are having problems or give them unreasonable time frames to work in I think if I tried they would just laugh at me and continue on as they currently are.
But if you arrive here by transporter I'm not concerned just make sure you don't let a fly in. :D
Col ]:)
by jaqui
are willing to offically sponsor me ( and my wife & daughter ) we can talk.
:)
but since my wife and daughter are american and in Colorado, I'm actually more interested in getting sponsored to the Denver area to be with them.
for some reason, marrying an american doesn't get me the right to live/work there.
( nor them here )
by rajpatel
You want an "investigation team" and to "see her detailed transcript". Why you? Who the fcuk do you think you are?
Anyway, anyone with a good memory and access to braindumps can pass some certs. I have a CCNA (just for the resume and the IP knowledge) and I've not touched a router in anger - we have a network team for that.
Face it, there are nine year olds brighter than you. There are certainly nine year olds who have a better grasp of punctuation!
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