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A question for the AU peers

By gbrownlee ·
There is a story/rumour circulating here in the heartland of resistance to Canada's gun registration. So I am asking if the following is true.

a. The AU government forced gun owners to register their guns.
b. They then confiscated these guns.
c. The AU government is searching for markets for wild kangaroo meat, because with no hunters, the population has exploded.

Greg

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All True

by Black Panther In reply to A question for the AU pee ...

In Au Gun Registration is compulsory. All semi-automatic and automatic were confiscated on a buy-back scheme.

More details here

http://www.gunsandcrime.org/aussiegc.html

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/cib/1995-96/96cib16.htm

Also yes the Kangaroo population is exploding, along with rabbits, dingo fences exist in Australia and also the imported Cane Toad.

more info here

UNE surveys confirm that kangaroo numbers on Mulyungarie have increased from 20 per sq km to more than 50 per sq km in the past eight years. That increase is in line with a kangaroo population explosion across Australia, with total numbers fast approaching 40 million.


http://www.kangaroo-industry.asn.au/media/Bulletin_24401.html

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More ....

by jardinier In reply to A question for the AU pee ...

Supporting subtropicalmists' contribution, the following URL was sent to me by a regular contributor to my website.

http://www.nutech2000.com/webtext/events/bryantfly.html

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Close but not quite

by HereInOz In reply to A question for the AU pee ...

Point a. True - all gun owners had to register their guns, or run the risk of having an illegal firearm. So you required both a licence to own a gun, and the gun had to be registered.

Point b. Kinda true. Confiscation is a bit strong. Automatic and semi-automatic rifles and most handguns were unable to be registered and had to be handed in - the owners were paid for them.

Ordinary bolt action rifles and other "non-automatic" rifles were allowed to be kept provided you had the necessary permits, but there are fairly strict rules as to how you can keep them. They have to be locked up in a specified type of case - you can't just have them sitting on the wall. If you didn't want to be bothered doing this, then you could hand them in and you would be paid for them.

Most handguns had to be handed in unless you had a bloody good reason for having one - member of a pistol club, or something like that.

So, yes, there are still people who have guns around Australia, but we don't sell them in K-Mart, or places like that. In fact, there are not too many gun shops around Adelaide - at last count there were about 15, in a city of more than 1 million people. Personally I think that this is a good thing - it makes people come up with far more inventive ways of killing people :) Like vats of acid in disused bank vaults and things like that. (Trust me - that happened).

Point c. Probably true. The Kangaroo is not an endangered species in Australia, and it is highly probable that our trade people are out there looking for markets for roo meat. Given that we are now a significant primary producer of grain, beef and lamb, too many kangaroos can really spoil your day, (pity they were here first) and also given that they have indeed been here far longer than white fellas, sheep or cows, they are damnably well adapted, and breed very successfully.

If we feel we need to shoot them, and indeed there are a powerful lot of them, it is better to use the meat rather than pile them up and burn them. The meat, by the way, is very low in fat and cholesterol, and quite good eating, if you like strongly flavoured red meat dishes.

And last but not least, please save me from the comments about eating our national emblem on our coat of arms. That is an accident of history.

Maybe we should do what England did and choose animals like the Lion and the Griffon. You don't see many Lions in England these days, (did you ever?) so they are safe from having to kill and eat one of them, and I haven't noticed any Griffons about lately either. That was smart. Us silly buggers picked two real live animals, so that when we shoot them and eat them, the whole world is up in arms.

The explosion in Kangaroo numbers is not really as a result of the gun regulations, though. It would have happened anyway. More, it is caused by us growing lots of good food and storing lots of water for them to drink, hence they breed up.

This post got a bit rambly & out of hand. Hope you don't mind!

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yes,we did plan ahead.

by husp1 In reply to Close but not quite

yes brits did think something through compleatly. (for a change) but since I was born british and then later became a US citizen I can only claim half credit. by and by what is the secound animal? not a kewi is it?

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Emu

by HereInOz In reply to yes,we did plan ahead.

It is an Emu. We don't kill all that many of them, but there is a trade in Emu Oil, which is supposed to have thereateutic effects.

God knows how they press the Emus to get the oil out of them :)

Back on the numbers of kangaroos:

There is a motor race here in Australia each October, in a town in New South Wales called Bathurst. It involves about 30 large V8 saloon cars - somewhat modified - tearing around a rural road - also somewhat modified - for about 6 hours at speeds up to 290Km/Hr.

After about 4 hours of this shattering noise and fumes and all the thousands of humans gathered around the track, not to mention the previous days practice and qualifying, a kangaroo hopped across the track in front of a car doing about 180 Km/Hr.

The collision was rather significant and damaging to both the roo and the car, so if roos hang around those areas under those conditions, there must be a fair few of them.

Hence the problem of culling in the first place.

Alan

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Come on Alan

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Emu

Quite a few years ago now at Bathurst a cow wonder onto the back straight and was collected by a car somewhere around the bottom of Conrod about where the Caltex Chase is now.

That caused quite a few comments and all the live stock after that had to be moved prior to any race meeting. There was also the "Famous" rock incident where Dick Johnson found one on the middle of the track over the top of the hill just at a place where there was nowhere to move. I don't suspose you've ever seen it but on the other side of that concreat wall on the left hand side there is something like a 100 foot drop onto the top of trees and they are not all that short I might add.

I of course had to have a look one Easter durring the old bike meet that they used to have and that wall is just high enough to keep the bike on the track but of course the rider would get thrown straight over the top. Kind of makes you very cautious at that part of the circuit.

Col

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Roo Meat...Hmmm

by ProtiusX In reply to Close but not quite

Here in the states we have been experimenting with alternative meat products such as Ostrich and Emus. Ostrich is very good but do to a lack of supply rather expensive. Now if you could figure out a way to cheaply transport the animals or the meat to the US for a reasonable price I?m sure we will eat it up. I would be willing if the price was reasonable.

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A bit difficult

by HereInOz In reply to Roo Meat...Hmmm

Roos are a bit difficult to transport, because they are not really a herd animal, and tend to brawl when put together.

So it would have to be meat export I think rather than live animal export. We have enough trouble with live sheep exports let alone kangaroos.

You can even make an excellent soup out of the tail. Skin it, boil it up in an appropriately spiced concoction of water and vegies and it is quite nice. The tail is way too muscled to be able to eat as meat, but it does make a great soup.

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Actually there is a very big Roo meat industry

by HAL 9000 Moderator In reply to Roo Meat...Hmmm

For human consumption but the tariffs make it almost impossible to export it to the States.

I suspose that your Government is protecting its own Roo meat industry. But seriously if they allowed Roo meat in it would adversely impact on the Beef industry.

But watch out the Crocodile, Emu and Possum meat industry is beginning to get going and within a few years they will be very big. Currently most of their output goes to SE Asia so we do not get to see too much of their products either.

Col

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Thank you one and all

by gbrownlee In reply to A question for the AU pee ...

I look forward to the opportunity to set the facts straight hereabouts. The redneck types would have us believe that even hunting rifles were confiscated and the roo population explosion was caused by a lack of hunting pressure.

I have registered my firearms and they have to be stored under secure conditions. But very few around here have. In fact, the local gun repair shop has a sign out front that states: If your gun is registered or you plan on registering it, don't bring it in here.

Greg

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