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All very nice until you realize you are trying to be rational with Muslims.

by sleepin'dawg In reply to A Secular Muslim Speaks O ...

That is an exercise in futility. The equivalent of pissing into the wind. Nobody can understand this until they have had long term exposure to Islam and Muslims.

I have said this once and I will say it again, "The only Muslim that you can trust, is a dead one." Until the west eventually wakes up to that fact or makes Muslims everywhere believe that is how the rest of the world perceives them, we are in for a very bumpy ride. That is one of the reasons we should take out Iran, with nukes if necessary, before they acquire the bomb.

No one can talk rationality or rationalism with any follower of Islam because at heart they perceive us as heretics, blasphemers and Infidels and this is true of all Muslims, everywhere, whether they be peaceful or fanatical in their beliefs. Every Muslim must be perceived as a potential terrorist, if not today, then tomorrow,

Islam has declared us to be the "Great Satan" and whether your Muslim is peaceful or a fanatical terrorist, that is how they think of us and all others who do not believe as they do. They are a people who claim to love Allah as we might love God or Jehova but this just isn't so. They live in fear of their Allah and hope and pray he will grant them favours if they die in his name. Far too many of them believe in precisely that and until we become prepared to dispatch them in such numbers, that they will perhaps change their way of thinking, that is what we will have to live with. They have no hesitancy in killing us in wholesale numbers and fully expect us to react similarly. The fact that we don't makes them think of us as weak and because of that, they don't respect us. Sadly until we are prepared to do just that, they never will.

Remember, they perceive us all as weak. We will have to prove them wrong to a far greater extent than we have been prepared to do, so far and we may never be able to stomach the necessity of that, because that wouldn't be civilized now, would it??? X-( Muslims are not now or ever have been civilized when it comes to their beliefs. What do you do with a rabid dog, running amuck??? You put it down!!!

Dawg ]:)

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Addendum, the lady is not a secular Muslim.

by sleepin'dawg In reply to All very nice until you r ...

She has declared herself to be no longer a believer of the faith. It's a miracle she is still walking around because I'll bet she is on somebody's hit list. Salman Rushdi managed to live under that kind of threat, I just hope the lady can as well. It would be a shame if Islamic thugs managed to get their way. BTW you did notice the reaction of the Iman, didn't you??? It's only a matter of time when someone issues a fatwa against her.

Dawg ]:)

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What lady?

by rob mekel In reply to Addendum, the lady is not ...

Or did I miss something in Maxwell's posting as some of the links he gave didn't work well.


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It was the first link maybe this will work better

by sleepin'dawg In reply to What lady?
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Security block

by rob mekel In reply to It was the first link may ...

Will try it later on @ home.

Tnx dawg.


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You're still too extreme

by maxwell edison In reply to All very nice until you r ...
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Am I??? The way things are we'll just have to wait and see. How things.....

by sleepin'dawg In reply to You're still too extreme

are going in Iran, is becoming increasingly interesting. If and I will admit it is a fairly large if, things go as I expect them to, then I will be considered mild in comparison. A 'dirty bomb' set off in one of our major population centres will trigger a reaction that will make my extremism seem rather tame. Think about it; Denver could be considered a major population centre and as a first strike target it is ideal for delivering a warning shot before demanding our surrender. Don't think that the Muslims think that way, well I wouldn't put any money on it. The topography surrounding Denver would limit fallout and its proximity to Colorado Springs is another consideration. Yup, when I think of Muslims and their potential as a threat, I am extreme but after living in their midst for a year and a half, I believe them capable of pulling off any form of insanity. What it boils down to is we should get them before they get us, again. Before Sept 11th would you have believed them of being capable of that???

Believe this: Radiation sickness is one **** of a lousy way to die. Also you can believe this: A 'dirty bomb' capable of contaminating a city the size of Denver, can be carried in a suitcase. ABC Nightline pointed out more than 80% of containers entering North American ports are not scanned for anything, never mind nuclear material.

You can call me paranoid if you want to but as the old joke goes, "Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me." I'm somewhat of the same mindset as the Israelis; preemptive strike. Get them before they get us and don't kid yourself they aren't going to try to get us, again and again and again.

Dawg ]:)

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If any one had listened to

by jackie40d In reply to Am I??? The way things ar ...

IF ANY ONE LISTENED TO last night you would have heard THE NEXT WAR is due to ISLAM or starts in a MUSLIM country and becomes a nasty affair from there . . I guess we win since we are the one and only. . Future is kinda fuzzy right now and not yet set . . It would be nice if we won again and made the rest all Democratic govenments !
Of course we would have to make the Muslim people left 2nd class people since they would do the same to us ( thats neutered slaves ) no reproduction

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Oh Of course

by Tony Hopkinson In reply to If any one had listened t ...

Future is kind a fuzzy, I suggest you knock off whatever you are taking, things might become clearer.

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How do you get "them"?

by M_a_r_k In reply to Am I??? The way things ar ...

If you nuke the crap out of every Middle Eastern country and incinerate every man, woman, child, RPG, IED and piece of sand there, you're still going to have tens of millions of the rascals running around in other parts of the world. India, for example, has the world's largest Muslim population. There are tens of thousands of the varmints live in Southeast Asia, Europe and the US. Rooting all of them out would take an action similar to burning down your field of hay to kill the mice living there. But more mice will be ready to swarm back in.

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