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November 28, 2005 at 10:40 am #2179554
A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
Lockedby maxwell edison · about 16 years, 7 months ago
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Another year of inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and another year where the Moody Blues are overlooked.http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20051128/113320422000.html
http://www.rockhall.com/hof/allinductees.asp
Is there any band or performer more deserving, but more overlooked, than the Moody Blues? I certainly can’t think of one.
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November 28, 2005 at 10:47 am #3122914
In Comparison….
by bfilmfan · about 16 years, 7 months ago
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The Three Stooges never won an Oscar…
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November 28, 2005 at 11:00 am #3122910
Ok, having reviewed the list…
by jamesrl · about 16 years, 7 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
I do have a Moody Blues greatest hits CD which I enjoy. And I loved the SNL parody. I did not go see them at the local casino though I had the chance.
But I did scan the list and did a few searches, and everyone I thought might be borderline would appear to be in. If Del Shannon is in (yes I am familiar with his works) then, Moody Blues should be in.
James
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November 28, 2005 at 12:44 pm #3122163
Well
by antuck · about 16 years, 7 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
Since Prince made it in 2004, the Moddy Blues most certainly should have been on the list. I would have placed the Moddy Blues much higher then the Sex Pistols.
I wonder why they haven’t been inducted?
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November 28, 2005 at 1:12 pm #3122146
The Moody Blues ….. regarded as one of the greatest Rock acts of all time
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 7 months ago
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November 28, 2005 at 1:38 pm #3122135
bands not inducted who have been as influential
by jck · about 16 years, 7 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
One I can think of:
Yes
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December 7, 2005 at 7:58 am #3126360
Yes?
by mickster269 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to bands not inducted who have been as influential
Who?
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December 9, 2005 at 9:52 am #3130223
Who?
by montgomery gator · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Yes?
Who has been inducted.
What and I Don’t Know are still waiting. 🙂
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November 28, 2005 at 3:06 pm #3122113
Influential group
by mirrormirror · about 16 years, 7 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
I’m gonna show my true head banger rocker self…
DEF LEPPARD should be in there if Prince already made it. Def Leppard is still making great music today and had influenced many other bands.
ROCK ON!!!!
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November 29, 2005 at 12:31 pm #3123354
I think one of the qualifications is
by jck · about 16 years, 7 months ago
In reply to Influential group
so many years in the business…like 25 or 30 years?
Def Leppard might just be reaching that. I think On Through The Night came out about 1980.
They are a good band and do still put out some good stuff.
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December 3, 2005 at 5:16 am #3126855
Yes, Shuld be there
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I think one of the qualifications is
How about jethro tull, The Clash, Warren Zevon, it seems that no more than 7 a year, queen only made it in the 200?, they have benn going since 1973 before the police etc.
how about Dire Straits. bad Company, Free, Argent thin Lizzy. Golden earing.
i have to say though that it seems that USA, as usual, makes it before Europe or England. RnR is not an american invention, if you follow the inductees you will see they are Blues players, and therefore Black and therefore African. i dont seen any african bands there.
But as usual we have to bow down to the great american god.
just a thought
johno
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December 3, 2005 at 8:20 am #3126806
Just saw Ian Anderson
by beads · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Yes, Shuld be there
I just caught a Jethro Tull concert here in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. Safe to say that Ian still knocks ’em out. Great show and agree that if nothing else Ian should be in the Hall of Fame.
I had forgotten that Jethro Tull used to be the opening act for Led Zepplin back in the early 70s to boot!
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December 3, 2005 at 5:21 am #3126853
More deserving!!!
by 76guitars · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
How about The Ventures?
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December 3, 2005 at 5:29 am #3126850
There must be a certain…..
by gregjahn · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to More deserving!!!
I imagine the Hall of Fame has certian set of rules or criterias for inductions.
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December 3, 2005 at 6:00 am #3126839
moody blues
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to There must be a certain…..
off the subject, why are the moody blues not in the hall of fame, look at the name, Moody BLUES, dont sound like a Rnr band to me. Good band but TOO clasical, in my opinion, like procul harem(sic).
If 25 years is a critria then we should have bach, Beethoven and Mozart, as influences. the afore mentioned procul harem’s whiter shade of pale is based on a bach piece, cant remember which now.
What i find intruging is the induction of the sex pistols, they were influential, but they were crap, sorry to say that i cannot remember a radio station taking a reqest for a sex pistols number. Okay Africa is a bit limited, but Good music is just that, and you will always get someone who will remind you of the good old days. I have yet to find someone who says “put on the sex pistols, we just love there three chord limitations and there rubbish harmonies, and I really get blown away by their vulgarity”.
johno
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December 5, 2005 at 5:06 am #3128374
But that’s only one…
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to moody blues
Just like many other bands, Procol Harum has been classified based on their single big hit. Anybody who listened to a complete album (any of them) knows they were much more than “Whiter Shade of Pale.”
Give it time, it’ll happen. Although I must agree with you on one count. If the Sex Pistols are there, something is definitely wrong with the system.
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December 3, 2005 at 5:30 am #3126849
the shadows
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to More deserving!!!
the ventures good stuff, but then we should have the shadows, i must be honest though I have not paid too much attention to the list. i belive that there are criteria we are not privvy to, ie how many groupies were laid etc, you know real significant stuff. Jokingly though, the stones were/are great, but technically speaking, eric Clapton, has got to be one of the best guitarist that ever existed. he makes Keith richards look like Milli Vanilli.
johno
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December 3, 2005 at 6:02 am #3126838
Shadows, too!
by 76guitars · about 16 years, 6 months ago
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You’re right. The Shadows deserve the honor, too. Much more so,
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December 3, 2005 at 7:17 am #3126821
Frankie who?
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Shadows, too!
Truth be told until i heard they did “why do fools fall in love” and nothing else, I was clueless.
i have gone to the RnR hall of fame and have gleaned a plethora of knowledge i did not know.
what i find strange though is the definition of Rock n roll, i can apprecate Michael Jacksons brilliance i would not make him a RnR legend, Pop yes.
too each his own.
johno
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December 5, 2005 at 7:51 am #3128285
King of the surf guitar
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Shadows, too!
And let’s not forget Dick Dale. The surfer rock sound in the early 60’s was cool. Dick is still out there playing at some smaller venues occasionally.
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December 5, 2005 at 8:37 pm #3129661
Tarantino Movies
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to King of the surf guitar
his music is used in Tarantino movies, so yeah good guitarists. Dont know about his influence, live far away in Sunny RSA, not someone who is going to tour here.
johno
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December 3, 2005 at 2:26 pm #3128035
Please tell me
by skershaw1 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
Maybe because they are just singers in a rock-n-roll band……….
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December 3, 2005 at 5:31 pm #3128004
Influence might be a sticking point
by middleagednewbie · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Please tell me
I always thought of the Moody Blues as standing very much alone among musical groups. Nobody really preceded or followed them; Genesis might be the most similar band I can name. I never really thought they fit under any particular genre, and did have some detractors who thought rock music shouldn’t be quite that elegant. I definitely don’t agree with that last point, and think they deserve such an honor (or maybe that should be spelled “honour”) as induction.
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December 3, 2005 at 7:13 pm #3127985
I totally agree
by ebenezet · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
I totally agree…it’s pathetic….
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December 3, 2005 at 8:13 pm #3127973
very deserving
by bluron · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
Stevie Ray Vaughn not only as a performer, but a major influence to some quite respectful and talented performers. I would have thought both the Moody Blues and SRV would have been inducted.
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December 4, 2005 at 12:24 am #3127937
SRV
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to very deserving
Obviously there is some criteria, we are not privy too, SRV is brilliant, but a little bluesy maybe, but having said that given the likes of BB king etc, maybe it should be called the Rnr Blues and pop hall of fame.
I doubt though if our little discussion here would influence them, but it has been loads of fun, learnt something, spoke with kindred spirits, drank some beer, got go and ride the harley now.
johno
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December 10, 2005 at 7:05 pm #3121181
Rock & roll is a _lot_ “bluesy”
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to SRV
The Stones, the Beatles, and many more got their start covering songs by Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Bo Diddley, Howlin’ Wolf, Elmore James, BB King, and many others.
We wouldn’t have rock & roll _without_ the blues.
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December 11, 2005 at 7:17 am #3121135
Even the term
by maecuff · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Rock & roll is a _lot_ “bluesy”
Rock and Roll came from a blues song. No, the DJ in Cleveland didn’t coin that phrase, he borrowed it.
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December 12, 2005 at 6:31 am #3120891
Thats the truth
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Rock & roll is a _lot_ “bluesy”
Cant agree more, I think the problem lies with the title Rock and Roll hall of fame. Maybe the pures blues artists should fall into the infulence section. Whatever they do I am just happy RnR exists along with Pretty women Beer and Harley-Davidson. Oh yes and rugby, but the yanks wont know about that.
johno
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December 12, 2005 at 10:32 am #3197142
Bets?
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Thats the truth
I’ve had a “r gby gr n” for almost theirty years now…
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December 4, 2005 at 2:35 pm #3127849
I agree with you about the Moody Blues.
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
And don’t get me wrong but I’ve never been one to get my shorts in a knot over any kind of entertaiment and/or the practioners of same. I enjoyed and still enjoy the Moody Blues when I hear them but as far as I’m concerned I don’t care whether they are in a hall of fame. In fact I had to stretch my memory that there was such a thing as a Rock ‘n Roll Hall of fame but then I have to stretch my mind to remember there is such a place as Cleveland which I only remember as the mistake on the lake. I’ve just never understood how people get so wrapped up in things like this. My loss I suppose.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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December 5, 2005 at 7:14 am #3128306
Out of Touch??
by soundchaser · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I agree with you about the Moody Blues.
the mistake on the lake was a term from the early 70’s. Cleveland has changed considerably in the 30 years since. To follow that logic, I could insist on calling all my friends down here in Florida as Johnny Reb. It does not sit well. Hahaha… if you get a chance, check the city out. It may surprise you.
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December 5, 2005 at 11:51 am #3128151
I agree
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Out of Touch??
I was in Cleveland a few years back; I liked it. Being from Chicago, it sort of had the look and feel of my hometown. I found out that some of the same architects who designed buildings in Chitown also built a few in Cleveland.
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December 5, 2005 at 5:01 pm #3129714
Have relatives there, visited there,was bored there and the best part …..
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Out of Touch??
of being there was leaving there. I stand by my opinion of the mistake on the lake. BTW it’s a term dating as far back as the fifties and possibly further. If Cleveland is so wonderful why don’t you go live there??? It is most definitely not high on the list of places people willingly choose to live. I only go there when I have no choice and my last trip there was March/03 and my mind is still seared by the memory. What does it have going for it other than the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Cleveland, the elephants grave yard of the trailer trash set. It is one of the misfortunes of my life that I have relatives there and have to attend family functions such as funerals, weddings and christenings. Trust me as soon as they’re hatched, matched or dispatched I’m out of there via the fastest means possible.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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December 6, 2005 at 5:57 am #3129557
wow
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Have relatives there, visited there,was bored there and the best part …..
why don’t you tell us how you really feel? LOL
I have no desire to live there. But I’m not opposed to visiting there, just like NYC and L.A.
Nice places to visit but you really don’t want to live there. I’m not trying to convince anyone to live there, just saying I didn’t find the city all that bad, but then again I was only there for a couple of days. -
December 6, 2005 at 7:09 am #3129512
Being there might be like having sex with a………………….
by sleepin’dawg · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to wow
queer. It might feel kind of nice but would you really want your friends to see you doing that??? Well you did ask how I felt!!!:^O Do note I did say might; I really have no standard of comparison in that area but what the hell, you say you found the city not that bad. You trying to tell us something???:p
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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December 6, 2005 at 8:30 am #3126794
Yikes!
by soundchaser · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Being there might be like having sex with a………………….
I guess obvious cultural pastimes were not on your agenda. World class Art and History Museums, a World class orchestra, one of the finest Urban park systems in the country. Hospital systems that rival any other city in the world, professional sports teams. I lived in the Cleveland market for 28 years and only recently left.
And I thought IT was reserved for the intelligent folks……
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December 6, 2005 at 11:45 am #3126666
ahhh
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Being there might be like having sex with a………………….
you won’t get me to bite on that bait my friend. All I’m saying is I like the way the city was laid out and it seemed pretty friendly and halfway clean. There are parts of all large cities you really don’t want to go in. My opinion of NYC, for example, was formed back in 1978 and they appeared to be on a garbage strike and the city was just awful at that time. I hear tell they’ve cleaned it all up, including Times Square where I was handed hand-bills promoting all sorts of lurid adult shows. (much like Las Vegas)Not that there’s anything wrong with adult shows if you’re so inclined.
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December 7, 2005 at 6:29 am #3126405
NYC
by soundchaser · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to ahhh
I can remember WALKING the streets of NYC at midnight – 2AM even down around Times Square with no one bothering me. That was some time ago. It did get pretty bad, but I, too, have heard it has improved.
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December 4, 2005 at 11:26 pm #3127786
I couldn’t agree more
by les.eaglestone · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
If longevity is a criterion to be used, then the Moody Blues should make the Hall of Fame as they’ve been around since the sixties! Looking at the list of inductees to date, it is a travesty that they’re not there in my opinion (there are far less deserving inductees already in the Hall of Fame)
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December 5, 2005 at 5:22 am #3128367
Reality Check
by sawyerch · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
There is a war in Iraq and our boys are dying. Let’s get to what’s real in life. Besides, what on earth does this have to do with IT?
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December 5, 2005 at 7:51 am #3128284
Reality Checkmate
by dmambo · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Reality Check
“There is a war in Iraq and our boys are dying.”
There are people suffering here and abroad and we still go on vacations. There are people homeless, and we still order out for pizza. Don’t you think it’s OK to have a mild diversion once in a while?“Let’s get to what’s real in life.”
There are lot of people for whom music, even Rock and Roll, is a very important factor in their lives. It’s conceivable that for them, this is a significant discussion.“Besides, what on earth does this have to do with IT?”
This is the Miscellaneous board. The post’s title was about as descriptive as possible. There was no way anyone should confuse this thread with a technology discussion, and it’s right where it belongs.If you don’t like the non-IT discussions, perhaps it would better suit your preferences if you did not participate in them.
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December 5, 2005 at 8:48 am #3128245
Amen
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Reality Checkmate
I concur whole-heartedly!
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December 6, 2005 at 2:35 am #3129610
Another Country Heard From…
by geezah · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Amen
Ditto!
I am also shocked that The Moody Blues are not in the the R&R Hall of.. well Shame now. Remember thier 1st LP, with Go Now? Much different than the rest but one of my all time favorite LPs.
And what about Jeffery Fredericks and the Clamtones???
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December 6, 2005 at 2:17 pm #3126580
Another winner!
by 76guitars · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Another Country Heard From…
Yeah, they belong as much as Frankie Lymon.
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December 7, 2005 at 9:34 am #3126284
Reality Check pt II
by mickster269 · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Reality Check
Maybe that’s why this thread is in the “Miscellaneous” section?
And real in life? Are you implying that rock and roll isn’t real? Haven’t you ever listened to music while performing some IT task? Have you seen a computer commercial on the Television that DOESN’T have a music sound track?
We can’t be focused on the trials and tribulations of just the critical issues of the world. Everyone needs to relax at one point, and where better than here?
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December 5, 2005 at 6:57 am #3128316
Re:A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
by soundchaser · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
The board fo the RnR Hall of Fame decided on Cleveland as its home, it was because of Alan Freed and his coining of the term and his influence on American radio based in Cleveland. I will not recognize the hall until the actual announcements, and the induction ceremonies take place in that town.If they wanted a oard based in New York and a figure head museum in Cleveland, it should have been presented to the public as such, but it wasn’t.
Some of the inductees have been valid, but I agree with this writer that more inflential groups have been overlooked, like the Moodies, Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Genesis, Tangerine Dream….all European blockbuster groups. This board is a sham.
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December 5, 2005 at 8:53 pm #3129660
Parochial
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Re:A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
I tend to think, having viewed the actual list, that the RnR Hall is Parochial with a tenedency towards bands from the US. before i get shot down, I dont have a problem with the Music per se’ it is just that the hall only looks outside the borders when forced too. ELP, Definatly genesis, They also dont listen to everything the band plays again I go back to the Sex pistols, 3 Chords crap Vocals No harmoines and no real music talent whatsoever, unless you call spitting on the crowd.
Cheers.
johno
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December 6, 2005 at 8:40 am #3126774
All too true.
by soundchaser · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Parochial
As a teenager in the “British Invasion” of the 60’s, I was glad that there were new rock sounds being injected. These guys had different outlooks on life and culture than we Americans did and it expanded our experience. Groups like Cream, The Who, The Yardbirds, contributed as much to the rock experience as any other group. Unfortunately, who knows what goes through the minds of those nominating and voting on selection for admission???
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December 6, 2005 at 3:32 pm #3126569
Did I miss something
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
Jackson Five, The Supremes ?
Not the top of my list when listening to Rock, Roll or Blues.
Not going to confuse them with AC-DC or Robert Cray are you ?
Never been a great fan of the Moody Blues myself, but I’d much rather listen to them than either of the above, in fact I’d rather listen to my mother-in-law complain than either of them.Next year they’ll realise they’ve left out europeans and add Shakin’ Stevens, Rick Astley or Steps I should think.
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December 7, 2005 at 8:49 pm #3130059
RnR good and bad
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Did I miss something
AC/DC and Robert Cray, I suppose you should have Tina Turner then. But yes the jackson 5 et al dont fall into my record selection. On the subject of really rubbish, how about Boney M. Milli Vanilli, and most of the Euro Disco rubbish you get nowadays.
On the good side from Australia, Midnight Oil, JO Jo zep and the falcons, from NZ Crowed House, but this is degenerating into a Hand bag slapping scenario, My band is better than yours. RnR is like Sex, it is always good, but when it is brilliant it is fantastic
johno
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December 12, 2005 at 8:29 am #3197237
Wow what decade are you in
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to RnR good and bad
Disco, that’s dead thank various deities, most of it was american anyway.
If you like the jacksons and the supremes be my guest, I like lots of music myself, just not them. I’m sure they deserve to be in a top 20 in some genre, just not rock and roll. -
December 13, 2005 at 9:57 am #3197717
To True
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Wow what decade are you in
Yep, I dont have any of there stuff either, maybe they should have a Pop hall of fame, then they can have their deities and normal folk can listen to decent RnR. I must be honest though I have danced to the Staying alive soundtrack, Wouldnt mention it in polite company though could offend some people.
johno
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December 10, 2005 at 8:19 pm #3121178
Maybe even…
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Did I miss something
The Strawbs.
I mean, let’s get real, if the Sex Pistols are there, every other band ever recorded deserves a place.
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December 12, 2005 at 6:48 am #3120880
The strawbs without a doubt
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Maybe even…
The strawbs, now there is a blast from the past, they were excellent, tight, different with an outstanding lead vocalist (cant remember name), I have another one, if we are on the Sex pistols, Supertramp.
In fact we should petition the hall to remove the bloddy sex pistols, 3 chord rubbish, whilst been high on drugs, really makes for good music.
johno
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December 12, 2005 at 7:28 am #3197267
You’re thinking of Dave Cousins
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to The strawbs without a doubt
I saw them live a few times. To think that Rick Wakeman – of ‘Yes’ fame – started with them and Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention and then Pentangle – who tragically died at age 31 of a brain tumour.
Oooops! Showing my age and early musical tastes here!
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December 12, 2005 at 8:41 am #3197228
getoff Neil, you’re showing mine, too!
by gadgetgirl · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to You’re thinking of Dave Cousins
I remember Pentangle!
And Fairport Convention!
I actually bought a Fairport Convention LP when I was…….ooops……
:p
GG
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December 12, 2005 at 8:37 am #3197231
There have are and will be a lot
by tony hopkinson · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Maybe even…
of very popular music entertainers who aren’t musically gifted. I wouldn’t put the pistols in Top 20 Rock and Roll either. Top 20 punk rock definitely.
Should Sid and the pistols have been up there with Frank in top 20 crooners for My Way do you think ?
Tee Hee
This site is obviously some sort of popularity contest, nothing to do with the style or quality of the music.
SuperTramp Ugh, you’ll be mentioning REO Speedwagon next.
AOR, can’t stand it. Rock for eunuchs.
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December 11, 2005 at 5:50 am #3121136
The Shaggs belong in the R&R Hall of Fame
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to A Travesty of Rock and Roll Justice
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They were, after all, according to Frank Zappa, better than the Beatles. And since the Beatles are in, and Zappa is in, there ya go. Where are the Shaggs?-
December 11, 2005 at 12:28 pm #3121092
Maybe because
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to The Shaggs belong in the R&R Hall of Fame
Zappa was not as good a music critic as he was a musician.
I must admit that, once heard, you can’t take a middle ground with the Shaggs, though. I’d probably leave ’em out.
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December 12, 2005 at 6:38 am #3120887
The Shaggs ??
by johno · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to The Shaggs belong in the R&R Hall of Fame
Who? maybe coming from Sunny RSA has limited my listening options, but I have not heard of them, I will check in at my local store though, nothing like a new experience. I like zappa though, but find at times he tends to be a little esoteric, or mocking, i dont know which. When he is good he is really good.
johno
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December 12, 2005 at 7:44 am #3197259
You won’t find The Shaggs at any local store
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to The Shaggs ??
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Well, you might. Their stuff has been released again on CD.However, be advised, my message was dripping with sarcasm.
The Shaggs, an all-girl band who recorded their first (and only?) record in 1969 (it was re-released in 1980), hold the distinction, in many circles, of being the absolutely worst group to ever make a record. They were SO bad, that no recording company, reputable of otherwise, would record their “music” (and I use the term “music” with extreme caution); their father actually had to PAY a recording studio to do it, and he had to buy 1,000 records himself.
I’ve been offered $50 for my 1980 re-released record, The Shaggs, Philosophy of the World, but I’ve turned it down. I’ve never seen an original 1969 record; it’s one of the most rare records of all time, only 100 out of the original 1000 survived, and it’s worth multi-mega-$$$.
Listen to some samples:
Read all about them:
http://www.aurealm.com/shaggs.htm
http://www.missioncreep.com/tilt/shaggs.html
http://www.susanorlean.com/articles/meet_shaggs.html
But if the Sex Pistols made the R&R Hall of Fame, and the Moody Blues don’t, well, The Shaggs should certainly be a shoe-in. (More sarcasm!)
Personally, I think the R&R HoF is a joke.
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December 12, 2005 at 9:13 am #3197198
Maxwell, I still haven’t thanked you
by neilb@uk · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to You won’t find The Shaggs at any local store
I went and Googled up a sample of their work after your first post about them.
I’m afraid, as always, I missed the irony. It does, after all, take all sorts to make world and you just [b]might[/b] have been a fan.
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December 12, 2005 at 9:42 am #3197175
I do, after all, . . . . .
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 6 months ago
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December 12, 2005 at 10:45 am #3197134
Mocking
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to The Shaggs ??
Definitely mocking. Zappa had a very low opinion of most mainstream rock.
I miss him and Captain Beefheart both!
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December 12, 2005 at 11:44 am #3197095
When it came to bizarre, Frank Zappa was certainly. . . . .
by maxwell edison · about 16 years, 6 months ago
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December 12, 2005 at 12:54 pm #3197065
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December 12, 2005 at 6:44 pm #3197866
Just Another Band From LA
by nicknielsen · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
A live album in which FZ also shows his chops AND we learn to yodel for vegetables.
Actually, if you know where to listen, you can hear FZ show off his chops in every one of his songs.
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December 13, 2005 at 4:43 am #3197790
Zappa’s chops
by dmambo · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Just Another Band From LA
are evident throughout, but I sometimes have a hard time getting past the loopiness integrated into much of his art. To each his own.
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December 13, 2005 at 5:56 am #3197754
I was never a big fan
by doug m. · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Zappa’s chops
of Frank Zappa either but I can appreciate what he did. I think he and the band could have been serious performers but then they might have just been lumped together with all the other bands of the time and would not have gotten the recognition they did. They stood out from the crowd.
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December 13, 2005 at 8:14 am #3197729
About Zappa “chops”
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
If you look, on many of the albums is Steve Vai, listed as “Stat Abuse”.
If you like guitar, you HAVE to LOVE Vai.
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December 13, 2005 at 8:14 am #3197730
About Zappa “chops”
by jdclyde · about 16 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Shut Up And Play Yer Guitar
If you look, on many of the albums is Steve Vai, listed as “Stat Abuse”.
If you like guitar, you HAVE to LOVE Vai.
Oh yeah, don’t eat the yellow snow!
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