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What is an "acceptable" age difference for a relationship? Assuming all parties are over 25.
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What is an "acceptable" age difference for a relationship? Assuming all parties are over 25.
by itgirli
There was an reason for it, I'm 47 and met a girl 26 My daughter told me she was too young for me so I just thought I'd post the question.
Thanks for the response, That's what I figured too, but wanted to know others views.
by jardinier
possibly feels threatened by your choice of a partner perhaps close to her own age.
If you have good communication with your daughter, perhaps you could ask her precisely why she is not in favour of your new, younger friend.
by dmambo
I think that a the answer to your question depends on what your intentions for the long-term are.
If you're enjoying each other, then go ahead and enjoy.
If you begin to make plans for years ahead, be aware that as she is just entering her senior years, the possiibility exists that she'll be caring for a slobbering old dude behind a walker.
If you get to the point that you are considering having children, seek immediate psychotherapy.
The age difference means little now, It could become a huge issue 20 or 30 years down the line.
Just my viewpoint.
by itgirli
by firestar1
by surflover
by choppit
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Your age, divided by two, plus 7.
(This only works if you're over 22.)
If you're 50:
Divided by 2 = 25
Plus 7 = 32.
50 year old guy, 32 year old woman.
40 year old guy, 27 year old woman.
60 year old guy, 37 year old woman.
And if you're a "Demi Moore" type woman, I suppose the same could apply, but in reverse.
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However, that's just what I've been told.
For me, I suppose the perfect age would be the exact age of the perfect woman, whatever that may be.
by itgirli
by jamesrl
The fact that the perfect woman doesn't exist, doesn't mean that we imperfect men won't always look for them - I think its something in the long term genetic makeup.
James
by m_a_r_k
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Yes, the perfect woman does indeed exist, but she is, I will admit, defined differently by different men (or different women, I suppose, if that's what toots their horn).
The perfect woman, however, is not one free of imperfections, but rather defined in how she handles those imperfections. Moreover, the perfect woman might only be possible if she not only handles those imperfections perfectly, but also in a manner that's consistent with that perfect man, for whom the same things apply. And even if some of the imperfections are handled in an imperfect way, the manner in which that is handled can indeed define perfection. (Well, at least it would be close enough.)
In addition to my last message...
https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=181829&messageID=1853709
... people will ALWAYS find what they are looking for and/or expect to find. If a person expects to find a partner that's not perfect, full of flaws and faults, and not exactly what they're looking for, that's exactly what they'll find -- and that's exactly what they'll be stuck with. If, however, they expect to find that exact thing (or person) they are seeking, they have indeed increased their chances of finding it.
The same can apply to anything in life. If you go into a job interview, for example, knowing that you're not going to get the job, guess what you'll get, or what you'll not get, I should say? You may not necessarily "find it" each and every time, but you'll increase your chances exponentially. How many successful people, for example, set out expecting to fail? (And define "success" however you'd like.) It just doesn't happen. If, for example, the New England Patriots ran out onto the field at last year's Super Bowl expecting to lose, these no way they would have won the game, since they didn't expect to lose the game. If a person expects to be a failure in life, he'll be a failure in life. If a person expect to overcome any and all obstacles in life, and achieve ..... whatever ...... then .....
Generally speaking, people will find in life the exact thing they expect to find. If you don't like the things that always seen to find you, then change your own expectations, and only then will you change your own results. And I don't care what it is you're talking about.
The challenge in a good relationship, i.e. the perfect relationship, at least in my estimation, is not in seeking something "perfect", but rather defining those expectations perfectly; and both must have the same outlook or it won't work, since a person can only define his or her own expectations, not those of others.
Dr. Phil, move over. Make room for Dr. Maxwell Edison (.....majoring in medicine.....)
by jdclyde
is the one that can over look the many flaws in men, and see the good.
Some people enjoy getting the most out of life, others enjoy GIVING the most of their lives. How to find the middle ground.
by jck
for the perfect woman...
Now, I look for the right woman.
As for there being no perfect woman...hmmm...nope...not gonna do it... :D
Can you have a conversation, that's both of you talking in turn, some people get confused on that point.
A big age gap, of course you have to deal with the fact at some point physical attraction will disappear for one party, being able to talk to each other becomes very important at that point.
by itgirli
by surflover
by ozi eagle
by ni70
I'm of the mind set that [i]age ain't nothing but a number[/i]! But that's just me. If you're both consenting adults, what's the problem? In my state at the age of 18 you're an adult! You can vote, join the military, etcetera.
I don't want to come across at tootin my own horn, but I've had 19 year olds interested in me, and I'm 40. But they thought I was in my late 20's:)
by jardinier
My best live-in relationship was with a girl 20 years younger than myself. She was of course very mature emotionally and intellectually for her age (actually jail-bait at the time).
My most enduring relationship -- intimate at first and later platonic -- has been with a woman 16 years my senior. She turned 80 this year. We have not had an argument in the 33 year span of our relationship.
At my current age of 64, I would prefer a girl aged 25 or less. Not just because of the physical appeal, but because she will not have had time to accumulate heavy emotional baggage.
For a light-hearted view on the matter, I cannot resist posting the lyrics of a song I wrote many years ago.
FICKLE MAN
I?ve loved many a girl
In my years of wandering around
But I?ve yet to meet the one
That could make me settle down
Blonde and brunette, redhead too
I?ve loved them all I guess
But I?ve yet to meet the one
Who means more than the rest
CHORUS:
I?m a fickle man
It?s hard to pin me down
I like women, tall or short
Yellow, white or brown
But I hope the day will come
When my roving eyes can rest
And I meet someone who ties me down
And builds a little nest
From Argentine to Canada
From Bombay to Moscow
I?ve loved all kinds of women and
Although I do say so
I haven?t been too bad at it
And yet I wander on
Still looking for the perfect one
Who really turns me on
From sweet sixteen to sixty four
And all years in between
From socialite to truckies? moll
From slut to beauty queen
I?ve even loved some persons
I won?t mention in this song
?Cause it ain?t always legal, though
I don?t think it is wrong.
by jardinier
by bfilmfan
I recall using that to my advantage when I was a younger man in my early 20's and dating women 35-45.
As I recall, it was some of the best dating years of my life.
by jdclyde
I am personally looking to trade my 39 in for a 20 and a 19! I warned her that she was still under warranty!
seriously though, age means nothing as long as you connect. I would never consider much younger than that 25 mark as they generally don't know much about life yet. Get a 21 year old and they are just discovering the bars and will shortly see that all the drunks will be sniffing around and they can have their pick for the night.
Find someone with some maturity..
[b]
If this girl is interested, then YOU are the only one that needs to like her. Don't let others judge for you and pass up on happiness for yourself. [/b] Your daughter will be just fine after she gets used to the idea of Dad dating.
Hope you find what your looking for.
by jdclyde
Many people want to have their own family. If she wants kids, is that something you are willing to go through again? I know that I have no intention of EVER having more kids!
If that long term isn't an issue or having kids with her isn't an issue, full steam ahead.
Start taking your vitamins!
by m_a_r_k
by jamesrl
I think BFilm Fan gets double points for being a computer geek and a film geek.
James
by bfilmfan
by itgirli
by surflover
by itgirli
by jdclyde
That man is not that hard to find.
When the spark isn't there though, that isn't the same thing. There are lots of men that would even go a step further to treat you and your kid GOOD (if not great).
While I believe your not the shallow type that bases things on looks, I also believe that there are plenty of opportunities for YOU if you just look in the right place.
It is MUCH easier for an attractive young thing to find someone than a bunch of old geeks. It is all there for you to choose from.
Mind you, if you meet young guys rather than the older onces, it will be only the sheets that they are interested in. The rest of us realize even in a blazing hot relationship, you still spend more time OUT of the sheets than in so that should be good too.
by itgirli
by surflover
by m_a_r_k
by surflover
by m_a_r_k
by itgirli
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.....any time.
by dmambo
is to expect that they can make their mate change to suit their desires. No matter how much you think you can get your betrothed to meet your requirements, it's very unlikely to happen. The key, IMHO, is to make the decision to change yourself or to otherwise adapt to the traits that you find less than perfect. Unfortunately, that's a mature decision that many in their early 20's, the prime gettin' hitched years, either don't recognize or will not make.
(Mark, please understand that this is a general observation on my part. I do not mean to imply that this was a root problem in your marriage.)
by jdclyde
or you can find someone that likes you they way you are and you like them the way they are. Flaws intact and understood.
The BIGGER problem is the people that are on their "best foot" at the beginning of the relationship. These people are the root of all evil! You meet someone and everything clicks! Then you find out you fell in love with a lie that they don't keep up.
Women met a man and hope he will change.
Men met a woman hoping she WON'T change.
Both are disapointed.
so it doesn't matter how great the sex is, because while I love pizza, after a while it is just pizza. There has got to be more.
A friend and companion would be nice.
I have learned what NOT to do in a relationship as I understand that I wasn't the perfect mate either. Looking hard at myself instead of just blaming my adulterous future ex-wife will make ME a better person the next time around. Had I been better at being a mate, maybe she wouldn't have gone and found someone else. No blame, just look what was broke and learn from it.
by ozi eagle
by itgirli
....so far, I could never dig my way out. Isn't there a straight, unmarried man out there?
HELLO?
Any one?
Bueller? Bueller? (and even Ben Stein is married!)
oh well.
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Remember, if you lower your expectations, you'll lower your results.
by surflover
by m_a_r_k
by surflover
by jdclyde
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Links to support my claim:
http://dan.hersam.com/philosophy/perfect_woman.html
Or this one:
http://www.tpwmi.com/perfectman.html
The perfect woman for only $19.99:
Or for 5 bucks:
And I stole this one:
Bill is almost 29 years old, his friends have already gotten married, and Bill just dates and dates.
Finally a friend asks him, "What's the matter, are you looking for the perfect woman? Are you that particular? Can't you find anyone who suits you?"
"No," Bill replies. "I meet many nice girls, but as soon as I bring them home to meet my parents, my Mother doesn't like them. So I keep on looking!"
"Listen," his friend suggests, "Why don't you find a girl who's just like your dear old Mother?"
Many weeks go by and again Bill and his friend get together. "So Bill. Did you find the perfect girl yet. One that's just like your Mother?"
Bill shrugs his shoulders, "Yes I found one just like Mom. My mother loved her, they became fast friends."
"So are you and this girl engaged, yet?"
"I'm afraid not, my Father can't stand her!"
by jdclyde
by m_a_r_k
by maecuff
by surflover
by surflover
I knew it was only 3... but i'll concede on the 4000 lbs... anyone with a kevlar dome could handle at least 6 tons... haha...
I should have preferenced my last surfing adventure with the fact that I had no business taking on one that size in the first place, as I frequently got beat up pretty good by much smaller ones :-)... I think that was God's way of telling me to cut it out before I did some permanent damage :-)
by jck
You don't tell ITgirli, Jessie, or other ridiculing people...you won't have to be scorned for any age difference.
I made that mistake once...and I got flamed.
I guess women don't have confidence that there are other women who are younger than themselves that can be as mature.
or maybe it's denial? :D
(that's gonna stir the hornet's nest)
by surflover
to refer to the maturity of women coming from a man... yes, the hornets will be swarming soon :-)...
After all, most 15 year old girls can function as an adult, and although I hate to admit it, I find the maturity of a large portion of my adult male friends pale in comparison to most 15 year old females...
...maybe that's because maturity is just not our goal????
by jck
by m_a_r_k
by jdclyde
such an obvious target is my guess.
As for the maturity of males, everyone knows that most men are very immature.
I am RESPONSABLE as a parent, but I NEVER claimed to be mature! :p
Just a big kid. A big kid that doesn't have the patience to put up with the games of little girls that are flighty and are just stretching their wings for the first time. Sure, they could be fun for the over-night meaningful relationship, or maybe even a weekend but that would be it. (and no jck, not the 15 year olds. If they can't legally get in a bar (21 in Mi) then even overnight is too long.
by m_a_r_k
[i]"The hornets aren't flying. Maybe they only fly during mating season."[/i]
hornets --> horny --> mating
I swear I didn't purposely try to make that punnish (is that a word?) connection when I wrote that. Sometimes I outdo myself. hah!
by jardinier
By the way, can TR be upgraded to include pics in posts? The photos of this girl would blow your mind.
Anyhow through a matchmaking website I was contacted by this utterly stunning 25-year-old Russian girl, Elana. She was planning to come to Australia on a temporary visa, and suggested that we might live together if we got on OK.
Her emails were so open and spontaneous that I really believed that all my fantasies were about to be fulfilled.
I started thinking of the various ways my lifestyle would change with this unbelievably gorgeous creature sharing my apartment. Ah, what blissful fantasies I had.
After flying from some remote town near Siberia, she arrived in Moscow and sent me fresh photographs of herself beside famous landmarks. She was staying temporarily with friends in Moscow and was very excited about the trip to Sydney.
She sent me her flight plan and a photo of her passport to assure me she was on her way. But alas, at the last minute she "discovered" that she had to pay for a return airfare to Sydney in order to get a visa and didn't have enough money.
I was so besotted that I offered to send the money but I never heard from her again and I will never know what changed her mind.
It seemed too good to be true and I guess it was just that. But oh wow ! What a delicious fantasy while it lasted !
by ozi eagle
by dmambo
by dmambo
has given you a good head start on the creeping out!
How would you be able to be a minister in my little duchy, when you're already King Geek of the entire TR realm?
by m_a_r_k
haha Yeah I agree with you on the maturity thing. I'd rather act half my age (and I usually do). The sucky thing about growing "old" is that people expect you to act "old". You can't get away with most of the crap you pulled when you were 20 yrs younger.
On the age limits, I have a saying: "18 to 80; blind, crippled or crazy". There's more to it (a damn good punchline, I might add) that I don't think I should say in a public forum. ;)
by jdclyde
anyone that hops on the back of a half crazed steer, (even if in jest) is not the most mature person in the world! B-)
Cattle are for grilling, not for riding!
As for age, I guess I really don't even think about it. The cuties I went out with a few months back was about 12 years younger than me. Didn't bother me at all.
Most of it is just our RELIGIOUS MORALS that say something might be wrong. There was a time in this country "women" at the ripe old age of twelve would be married and start families.
Just like in other countries they eat dogs and cats. It isn't socially acceptable here and might even get you thrown in jail? Just raised a different way.
A saying I have always lived by,[b] "Don't judge me by your standards."
by maecuff
by m_a_r_k
I use my steer-wrestling example alot. Mainly because I can't think of anything more macho and terrifying than staring down 3000 lb of PO'd mayhem-waiting-to-happen. The only thing close to that terrifying is being locked in a room full of teenagers.
For age difference, I have to slightly modify my "18 to 80" rule. I'd probably draw the line on how old her parents are. It'd feel kinda wierd to date a girl whose dad is younger than me. If she's 18 and her dad is like 80 or something, then I'd feel comfortable dating her. But if she's 18 and her dad is 30, that would be a different story. :^O
by surflover
He was twelve when she was born :-)... that's even kreepier than him being younger than you... haha
(I'd just not ask about the dad :-))
by m_a_r_k
by jck
I'd never take a chance opportunity with any woman I don't know...18 or 80...period.
OK...well...maybe with a fifth of whiskey in me...yeah...but, I wouldn't be able to think. :D
As for pros and cons of 18 year old women: I can agree that most every 18 year old women are too immature for me and haven't lived. However, I'd never go about saying there's not an 18 year old who hasn't already been through the ringer and knows what she wants out of life. That'd just be like saying you can't find a smart woman under 25. It has nothing to do with age. Maturity, like knowledge, is built over time and different people acquire it at various rates.
What are the chances of me dating an 18 year old woman? Slim to none. But, I'll never say never.
Right now the two women I have interest in are 29 and 31, both have professional careers, are intelligent, sensible, and aren't always looking to prove themselves dominate.
Needless to say if I meet a pretty, sensible PhD candidate in Chemistry who is looking for some "chemistry"...I wouldn't be opposed to dinner and a walk on the beach. :)
by jdclyde
as it isn't the daughter of someone you know. THAT would be awkward (to say the least).
Other hands-off rules.
Never the sister/mother/daughter of a friend.
The EX of a friend is also asking for trouble, depending on if you VALUE that friend. If not, then he wasn't really a friend in the first place. More of an aquaintance.
I think I would have a problem with the 80 year old if she wasn't VERY rich and had a weak heart.
Last place I worked, a co-worker was married to a woman much older. People would ask him if that was his mom at the company picnic, not knowing it was his wife. Of the rest of us would end up choking on whatever we were eating/drinking at the time and find it MUCH funnier than he did.
Everytime that would happen, he would be subject to "mom" jokes. Would his mom let him stop for a beer on the way home? blah blah blah. :D
by jck
the ex of a friend isn't a bad thing...as long as they've been apart and have found someone else.
If they're you're friend and they've continued on with life, they're not gonna mind you dating someone they dated.
by jdclyde
This actually depends on a few things.
First, many people have differnt definitions of the word "Friend". They confuse "Aquantances" with "Friends".
I have a lot of people I am friendly with and will chat if I run into them. That is not a friend (to me)
A friend is someone that knows they can come to me in the middle of the night, ask anything and know they will get it. I have three people in my life that fit that bill and trust them unconditionally. I would not EVER throw that kind of friendship away over going out with a woman.
It also depends on how and why they broke up. If there are still feelings either good OR bad, it would come between my friendship.
That is not a hard choice to me. Matter of fact, it isn't even a question to have to think it over about.
Different people just have different ideas about such things and the value of friendship.
by dmambo
I've had friends that I've seen do the birddoggin' thing (not to me, but to 3rd party friends)and have it bite them in the butt later on. Some guys simply cannot control their thinking in this manner. When you see it done, it sure influences the level of trust that you have. On the other hand, there are guys that, even after they've made the break, can't let go of an ex-flame, even when thay say they have. Best advice is to stay away from a buddy's ex-squeeze.
But really, it depends on the individual circumstances. I've actually had a friend ask permission. In that case, I warned him off for his own good, and he wisely took my advice. It's amazing how powerful the words "Stay away from that f***ing psycho" can be!
by m_a_r_k
by dc guy
Although you have brought up just about everything else.
1. Somebody mentioned the awkwardness of the age difference as you grow older. Uh, very few relationships last longer than two years, so statistically that's just not likely to be a problem. If yours is the exception, you're each the person of each other's dreams, and you want to get married? Geeze, be glad you found each other and be grateful for however long fate lets you have each other in good health. I've known a depressingly large number of people who weren't big risk-takers who frelling DIED before they turned 50! Living long enough to need a walker will be just fine.
2. You all keep talking about finding the "perfect person" to settle down with. Excuse me, but a good marriage isn't about FINDING the right person. It's about BEING the right person!
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.....who can BE the right person as well.
You can BE the right person until the cows come home, but if your partner can't also BE the right person, the relationship is doomed to fail -- or it'll be littered with cow pies.
by surflover
by jdclyde
There are always mail-order brides! Just think how that opens the pool back up? Time to go swimming in the deep end! And you don't have to worry about them being a friends EX! :)
Seriously though, I could not see the getting together with a friend and his EX. Not if they had anything significant going on at any point.
And as Mambo pointed out, even if a guy SAYS they are over someone it doesn't mean we want this person around. Broke up for a reason. Most guys are just too macho to admit it when things bother them.
I am thinking a mute would be nice..... :D
by m_a_r_k
by surflover
by jdgretz
Well, my girlfriend is 9 years younger than I - I'm 57 - so far it's working out well. If I can ever convince her to marry me, she will instantly go from Mom to Great-Grandmother (I think that is putting her off a bit) as my oldest's son's wife is due in December. Her "baby" is 16 while my son is 15.
Hey ITGirli - ever go out with somebody whose kids are older than you???
jdg
by ldyosng
by ldyosng
by ldyosng
by jdclyde
Inquiring minds want to know.
Did you pass up on this chance to be happy with someone based on what other people would think or not?
Is it working?
Are you happy?
After the kick in the head you got, you deserve some happy time now!
by peachvonna
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