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And I thought we Aussies were getting shafted, spare a though for the poms

By mjwx ·
Petrol prices in Perth are around AU$1.30 a litre, which is about US$4.00 a gallon but in London they are US$6.30 a gallon.

http://tinyurl.com/j7q6b

The British were only beaten by HK and Norway (probably a few others who weren?t mentioned).

A right royal shafting. In AU our govt taxes petrol a bit and it sticks around $1.30 a litre, even during the Iraq invasion it only peaked at $1.50 a litre (up from just over $1 at the time).

Guess I just wanted to do a bit of complaining (I'm part English you see).

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One saving grace

by neilb@uk In reply to And I thought we Aussies ...

is that our tiny little island is just that - tiny. A trip from Weedon Bec in the the centre of England to the "beach" at Hunstanton (pronounced Huntston) is around 65 miles.

Not that anyone would want to go to Hunstanton.

Weedon Bec is about fifteen miles from my birthplace so I know it well. Because it was considered the centre of England, George III (the mad King) had some barracks built there with a direct canal route from London. He would have gone there with his family had Napoleon invaded.

Neil

Free history lesson courtesy of NITS (tm) because Yanks and Aussies don't have any and we've got LOTS and LOTS.

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Theres beach in england

by mjwx In reply to One saving grace

I thought it was only a myth.

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Them's fightin' words....

by gadgetgirl In reply to Theres beach in england

'course we have beaches.

And some of the best are in my area....

see?

http://tinyurl.com/hlqg5

Myth? Nah. Kyth my ath.

]:)

GG

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My "home" beach

by neilb@uk In reply to Theres beach in england

is Brighton - a quick 50 mile dash down the M23. It's a lovely sandy beach - if you define "sand" as having an average size of around 5cm.

From a good long way off, it looks nice.

http://www.antipodean.org/photos/SSW/brighton06.jpg

I love this piccy. So bright and cheerful.

http://www.carto.net/andre.mw/photos/1997/05/05_brighton_london/19970505-120002_brighton_beach.jpg

Neil :)

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GG, Neil, to paraphrase from a bad australian movie

by mjwx In reply to My "home" beach

thats not a beach, this is a beach
http://tinyurl.com/jr34w

Coral Bay in Western Australia. On the ningaloo reef.

http://www.ningalooreef.net/

It?s a bit hard to get to being 1000 KM's north of Perth and no airport but that just keeps the undesirables away. Crystal blue waters, photos don?t do it justice. My all time favorite holiday spot. If you find yourself in the land down under its worth a visit even when you need to drive 300 KM's (from near-by Canarvon, relatively near-by) and you can easily find a beach by yourself.

Brighton ay, I would very much like to go to a beach without sand. As much fun as the beach is getting sand out of your undies for three days isn?t.

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A lot depends upon how you define a beach

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Theres beach in england

In Australia it has to have sand, extremely small silicon based grains - about the size of table salt or smaller; and sun (most of the time) and water with reasonable temperatures.

Now most of what I've seen of what they call beaches in the UK has pebbles, not sand, sun once a year, and the water temperature is such that you can cool your drinks off by resting them in the sea - watch out they don't get to icy.

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You have history and a land extremely well

by Deadly Ernest In reply to One saving grace

fertilised with blood from all the murders and random killings, torture, etc that comes with it. We just have lots of land and freedom.

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Murders and random killings

by neilb@uk In reply to You have history and a la ...

vs lots of land and freedom.

Well, good for you.

Try not to take it so seriously - my post was obviously not intended to be so taken. Living up to your user name isn't really advisable unless you want an acrimonious debate about Australian policy towards Aborigines and Asian boat people. Trust me, I'll oblige.

People who live in glass houses...

Neil

Otherwise, lets just agree to post appropriately.

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I didn't add a sarcasm alert as it was mild and what I said mostly true

by Deadly Ernest In reply to Murders and random killin ...

With the murders and killings I was making an oblique reference to the number of royals and peers murdered by their own families to arrange a change of control. Also the excessive blood letting that went on between the English and Scots, Welsh, irish etc.

However, re the two points that you raise.

1. Treatment of Aboriginal peoples, or more accurately mistreatment. 95% of this happened under the auspices of the various BRITISH colonial governments and BRITISH appointed governors. So don't blame us Aussies for it, it was British Policy - actually most of the good thngs with Aboriginals that happened during this period was when the local Aussies made arrangements without, or outside, the government representatives and policies.

The 4% was by state governments, successors to the colonial governments carrying out old policies as the govt depts were run by people appointed by the old colonial governors.

The remaining 1% is because any group of people includes some useless bigots.

2. Asian Boat People - simply put we see no reason why some one should be allowed to cross two or more countries and then claim preferential treatment as refugees when the reasons for being a refugee were left a few countries back.

People who escaped from Vietnam, China, East Timor, the Phillipines and came directly here have been treated as refugees. That is the Aust govt policy and laws and is in line with the international conventions.

People who leave Afghanistan or Pakistan as refugees, cross India and Indonesia, and who knows aht other countries, to arrive in Australia are NOT refugees. That is in line with Aust govt policy and law, and the same international conventions. They ceased being refugees when they reached safety in India or Indonesia.

People who arrive here at deliberately destroy their identification documents and then lie about who they are and why they are here are NOT wanted. We will readily accept bona fide refugees and nice people, we do NOT want lying, thieving sods. Sadly too many of them get through because our laws are much slacker than other countries.

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By The Way my user name is a very old nickname from primary school, there used to be a compared show that played horror movies on a Friday and Saturday nights called Horror Movies with Deadly Earnest. Being an Ernest I got called Deadly.

For your information my father was born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire. Ancestrially his family go back to pre-Roman Wales (House of Poyes), my mother's ancestry if Scottish. And both have some Irish mixed in as well during the last five generations. So I'm an Aussie of English, Welsh, Scottish, Irish decent - quiver in your boots my son, quiver. You don't want to make me angry, just look at the historical imperatives involved here.

Oh I almost forgot, one of the distant, very distant house relationships goes by the name of Tudor. At one point some of the stay at home Welsh relatives spent many years fighting the Normanised relatives who called themselves Tudor. We got looong memories, boyo, long memories.


edited to fix a typo and a cut and paste error.

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OK, I missed the sarcasm

by neilb@uk In reply to I didn't add a sarcasm al ...

I always do because <mantra> it doesn't work in print </mantra>. Hence, I took your remarks at face value and as a sharp criticism following what was a characteristically jokey NITS passage.

There's more than enough back-biting going on at TR lately so I don't want to add to it. I don't want to quarrel so I won't mention the "Stolen Generation".

Neil

I'm 62.5% pure South Welsh (Ap Owen). The rest of me is classic English mongrel with a small addition of Native American from a Great^5 grandmother. Culturally, I am extremely English.

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