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by cmiller5400
Basically anything that violates the Terms of Use http://www.cnetnetworks.com/editorial/terms.html?tag=tr.ft.co
Edit to add: Welcome Aboard!!
by mjd420nova
by tig2
Use of foul language repeatedly, obvious racism, spamming the boards- can all get you kicked. But in general, if you are reasonable and respectful of your peers and generally act in a professional manner, you'll never have to worry about it.
Doing things like filling out your profile, using an avatar, and participating as much as you care to will help you to find your place in the community. Look for old timers and those whose interests are similar to yours and watch how they post.
The fact that you care tells me that you have little to worry about. You'll be fine.
Welcome to TR. Enjoy!
"Use of foul language repeatedly"
Oh No!!!
by deepsand
by hal 9000
Is perfectly OK but if you keep bringing that [b]Chicken or Other Domestic Birds[/b] into discussions you'll be thrown off the site. :D
The PTB here don't like the continued Kinky reports of what is done with the entire Bird. :p
Col ]:)
by maniacman
"characteristic"
"common behavior among many of the same group"
"true fact"
These are what undo you.
So that I and other peers can see what is racism and what are simple statements that point out cultural differences.
The definition of a "phobia" is an "irrational fear" so I'm not sure what you're trying to say and I'd appreciate clarification before I get out the matches...
Neil :)
p.s. Don't assume that you are standing on the moral high ground all of the time.
"Observations of common behavior among many of the same group, so is it racism to state the obvious? based on confirmed facts?"
Unless one is a sociologist or other professional researcher of human behavior, one probably will not observe enough individual members of any group to make valid assumptions about their behavior. Observations of a limited number of individual behaviors are not a basis for "confirmed facts", merely indicators of the behavior of only those particular individuals.
But trot out some of your "confirmed facts" of human behavior. Apparently they aren't "obvious", but I'm always willing to learn something new.
by nentech
Its to hard to tell if they?re serous or acting the fool
Some will just try to wind you up
For their own perverse pleasure
by nicknielsen
Pretty much anything that violates the terms of use will get you booted.
To answer the questions you did not ask, I provide these links:
http://tinyurl.com/hc9ho provides guidance on forum features such as text formatting, subscribing to posts, adding links, and (last, but most certainly not least!) emoticons.
http://tinyurl.com/9jmyg is a discussion in which the regulars on TR haggle over what we think is good and bad forum etiquette and why nobody seems to know the difference between a discussion and a question.
Welcome to the forums. Happy browsing.
Edit: long day, can't tupe
by deepsand
As others have covered the banishment issue, by way of reference to TR's Terms of Use, I will not repeat, but merely add that while it is the Members who bring infractions of such to the attention of TR's staff, it is the latter alone who make any decision re. terminating your account.
However, behavior not sufficiently egregious so as to warrant TR's taking formal action, but that repeatedly fails to well comfort with the temperment of the Members in general, and the Regulars in particular, can lead to one being shunned.
But, given your the nature of your query, I would be surprised were you to place yourself in such a position.
Welcome aboard.
by maniacman
by nicknielsen
[i]Am I wrong to be annoyed and vent my anger and frustration at such audacious and arrogant behavior?[/i]
I find it irritating as well, but having taught, ascribe the cluelessness or laziness more to student status than national origin. Consider that the American (or British or Australian or German or your choice of country) kids who are trying to get somebody to do their homework for them or are too clueless to do a Google search are probably on some other tech forum asking the same stupid questions we're getting here.
The scariest part is they are probably using the same gibberish in the process...
by deepsand
"[i]Beth keeps getting on my case when I start ranting about the foolish and idiotic postings coming from our friends in the Indian subcontinent who seem to be either too lazy to do a google search or too clueless to visit an online knowledgebase[/i]"
"Who seem to be ... too lazy ... or too clueless ..." serves as an example of an absence of common sense, by not only assuming facts not in evidence, but choosing to select those least favorable to the other party.
There is no basis for assuming that one from another country and culture will employ language as do you, even if it appears to be the same language. To expect that all will speak as you do is wholly unjustified.
"Is it bad etiquette to enforce our ethical standards here and rant about these fools?"
It's good etiquette to enforce our ethical standards. It's bad etiquette to rant, at least without including the word 'Rant' in the title so readers know what to expect. But it's a free web; take all the shots at them you want. Just a couple of questions, if you please.
"Beth keeps getting on my case when I start ranting about the foolish and idiotic postings coming from our friends in the Indian subcontinent ..."
Stupid questions show up here from all over the world. Do treat them all like dirt, or just the ones from Indian Ocean countries?
"Am I wrong to be annoyed and vent my anger and frustration at such audacious and arrogant behavior?"
Not necessarily, but have you ever wondered why you let stupid questions annoy, anger, and frustrate you? I don't see how responding to them can lower your blood pressure any more effectively than just ignoring them.
Inquiring minds want to know.
by hal 9000
But only if you are Kiwi, Welsh or other Sheep Loving Country. :p
Of course if you have studied this practise [b]In Depth[/b] you are always free to offer suggestions or pass on the newest toys that these people use. :0
Col ]:)
by rob mekel
so Aussies are in the clear as well.
As they love the Kiwi's and Welsh, they must love their living-house-stock as well ... :D ;)
Rob
NITS(tm) Edit: For those of you who don't speak Latin, this is Colin's Ph.D from Harvard awarded for his dissertation on "The Erogenous Zones of Antipodean Sheep".
Neil :D
by nentech
Hal wouldn?t a kangaroo be better at it than a kiwi
The poor old kiwi can?t even fly let alone jump high enough
No the kangaroo is much better suited for the job
Or are their sex organs too small
What can you say about a nation the has and overgrown rabbit as a symbol
Aren?t they a pest?
At lest the roo and sheep can eat together
Wow common interests what a match
Col
PS since the kiwis haven?t found this yet I decided to step in
I know the national sport of New Zealand is Rugby
I know their favourite pastime is beating the dumb Aussies
So how is it going in the land of OZ?
by hal 9000
As the others have covered the basics about the only practise not mentioned is attempting to sell a product to the Peers here. That will get you the boot faster than anything else.
But if you make a [b]Rubbish Listing[/b] for something that couldn't exist you are likely to get a good laugh from many here.
When in a Technical Discussion you should take things seriously but in the [b]Off Topic Discussions[/b] a Good Sense of Humour is Defiantly Required.
Col
by boxfiddler
by hal 9000
I notice that you have been mentioning Sheep a lot recently what are you trying to tell us all? That the [b]Bitch Slaps[/b] that you have been overdosing with have started to have an adverse effect. ;\
Perhaps you would like to lie down on my [b]Couch[/b] and have a Talk About it. :D
If you do I'll organise that the [b]Bitch Slaps[/b] stop for all the time that you are talking to me or till I think that you are cured. Now how do you wish to pay for this service.? :^0
Col ]:)
by maniacman
"Observations of common behavior among many of the same group?"
"That's what makes everyone of us unique instead of blind sheep following a common persona"
Am I the only one who finds these two statements in conflict? On one hand you say the behavior of individuals can be predicted on some group they belong to. (Since almost everyone can be counted in more than one group, which one do you use to predict their actions?) On the other, you say we're all unique.
by deepsand
And, that he has addressed you in an uncharacteristically plain and straightforward manner.
Consider that, if one can rightfully use characteristics ascribed to [i]A[/i] to describe [i]B[/i], [i]A[/i] and [i]B[/i] are in fact not wholly different, that one may be original and the other derivative; that they may in fact be as intimately interrelated as are Mother and Child.
Which is which is left as an exercise for the reader.
I sit at your feet in Questions. I seek out your answers, specially when I know little about a subject. I count on your being forceful and to the point. You know your stuff.
In another realm, something happens -- something noisome.
Whatever the (science) you practice so well in the one realm does not survive in the other.
I'm sure Deepsand saw what I was about. He was also on the money with his remark below about being "duly" sensitive.
The subject doesn't matter. I am duly and dually sensitive.
For example, you asked, "So you too deny the truth to be politically correct?" Did you mean "(in order) to be" or did you mean that I deny your truth to be itself politically correct? It matters.
I originally let that one go. You did exit stage right, saying "it's not worth it". I didn't want to throw rotting fruit after you.
But you leave unremitting. You leave your fighting words forcefully intact.
by tig2
Please let us consider that we are coming beyond discussion to high colored debate... and the is the WRONG place to pursue such.
Sandy- the issues between yourself and Santee are within thought process and verbiage of same. Sandy, you are blessed with the voulumness of speech while Santee speaks in the subtilty of brevity. I see the positions that you take and recognize that you are on the same sides- though you do not sound the same.
Can we please make a new choice? Can we start to HEAR one another and respect each other's views? You are both very intelligent men. I believe that you will both gain from HEARING each other's views- even if to disagree.
When we, as rational men, come together, we will find those places where we agree.
Hope you are both blessed in the New Year!
Edit- My third grade teacher would have been ashamed. Now I have to live with that...
by deepsand
I both understood full well and concurred with that which santee said; he himself recognized that by way of aknowledgement.
To MM, I pointed out that, unlike many of his prior posts, this one was exceptionally clear, clear enough that he himself could only have failed to carefully read it, or chose to deliberately misrepresent it.
I then restated, for MM's benefit, the thrust of santee's post, in the hope that it might be accepted as it was intended.
by tig2
You're right, I had misunderstood you.
And I very much appreciate the explanation.
I apologize, I only just now saw your post.
by maniacman
by beth blakely
by hal 9000
Mainly because none are silly enough to come out here. :p
As for Kiwi's they are [b]Delicious[/b] and I don't care who you tell. We also like to play them at Cricket, V8 Motor Racing and the like as a Kiwi Slinking Away Defeated Again is about the next best thing to actually winning. Actually we don't care to much if we Win or Loose as long as we beat the Kiwi's and Poms nothing else really matters. :0
We keep out [b]House Stock[/b] very close to home because we are very lazy and don't like walking any distance to get dinner. While we eat the Sheep the Kiwi's do other things with them. :^0
God their National Sport is [b]Sheep Dog Trials[/b] need I say any more? :)
Col ]:)
by the maverick phantom wanderer (formerly macoza, nodice, kp, etc.)
Thanks for the great advice- and for welcoming me unto TR.
"Knowledge earned is infinitely more valuable than knowledge given."
- my first attempt at a quote
by nentech
But sometimes its nice to be thanked for your help
Welcome to TR
Hope you enjoy the posts of the local comics
Edit to add
Don?t forget to have a look around myWorkspace
It?s your workspace but they call it myWorkspace
by tig2
by maniacman
by tig2
Every one of us, in trying to address your statements, is trying to give you information about what the tolerance level is. I know that you are aware that Beth will not hesitate to strangle your current account. She is the moderator and may do that. We are all only here by her good grace.
Anything that even remotely smacks of a racist viewpoint will be deleted. You know this. We are trying to help you see what is viewed as racism. No one wants to see you kicked again.
Many of us have a really good read on what will send your account to the byte bin. By giving you feedback, we hope to help- that's all. No one is trying to quash you. But there are times for intellectual debate and there are times when one needs to not share deeply held viewpoints.
You will figure out who you can have that level of discussion with and choose peer mail as the vehicle. That is a good solution. But please consider that you are getting good information on how best to proceed from all of us.
And keep this thought in mind- what you say in person is colored by things like body language, facial expression, tone, and enthusiasm. This, as much as your words, delivers your message. Here, you have text and emoticons and little else. An innocent statement can be easily misconstrued. I had someone go off on me as a racist because I pointed out that asking for password cracks and identifying oneself as Indian did a disservice to the great many of ethical Indians. Because I was unable to communicate my tone, I was misunderstood. That happens a lot.
Keep in mind that we wouldn't bother with you if we didn't care.
by maniacman
by tig2
by jaqui
by nicknielsen
...we wouldn't need a name for it.
Is that the one?
by jaqui
that's not bad. but the one I was referring to is:
"common sense isn't."
implying the last word of .. common :D
by nicknielsen
We skin'em!
Then we dress'em! ;)
I like mine dressed up in leather and stilettos.
A leisure centre.
Neil :D
NITS(tm) Edit: for the more cosmopolitanly challenged among the peers, Cardiff is the capital of Wales.
by tig2
We're trying to keep him from heading down a wrong path that has gotten him kicked twice. Kindly do not make the problem bigger.
If you don't know what a situation is founded in, it might be best if you choose to not participate.
by nentech
When I wrote that
But he still needs to know that not everybody will take what he writes seriously
There are too many psychos and idiots on the net
I know you would never clown around in this forum
by tig2
He's a good guy and I really don't want to see him kicked. But he was headed for that road.
You're absolutely correct- there are a bunch of clowns out there. We are never rid of them. But I still recall the old days when your only coin was based on how you conducted yourself. Too much time in newsgroups, I guess.
Have a wonderful New Year!
by maniacman
by nentech
TT may have been frustrated with the actions of other posters
It is probably a simple mistake
I would not worry about it
Please take this as some well meant helpfull advice
People tend to forget there is a silent audience reading these forums
It is easy to get lost in the battle and forget there are people from all over the world and many different cultures reading what we write
It is easy to offend a large number of people and not know it
That is one of the reasons why Beth steps in
To be safe it is better to avoid any comments about race or culture
I did notice the clowns continued their antics later on
Col
by jaqui
by jaqui
my religion has new years day on November 1. :p
I don't follow the "Christian" calendar. :D
by the maverick phantom wanderer (formerly macoza, nodice, kp, etc.)
by gadgetgirl
jail bait! :p
Happy New Year, babz! :D
GG
]:)
by pser
by nicknielsen
by deepsand
by tig2
by shellbot
You just had to ask about banishment didn't ya??? And look where it went??
:)
Ah just joking.
Welcome to TR..and as everyone else said..common sense will take you far. We all have crossed a few lines, but generally after we were members for quite some time. I think once you get to know everybody, you'll realise what you can and can't get away with.
Have fun ]:)
by deepsand
I'm working off the governments' calendar and my workplace's. They say a new year has begun, and their the one's who affect my income. Funny about the governments. The feds say my tax year begins Jan. 1, but their spending year begins Oct. 1, and the state starts their spending July 1.
Forget religion. Astronomically the new year began with the winter solstice eleven days ago.
by rob mekel
I knew something was wrong with the new Cardiff centre.
To less to eat for those sheep ;)
Rob
by hal 9000
Actually reminds me of the start of 1974 where we had a bit of water washing around our feet in the low lying areas.
But with a bit of luck the dams will get some rain.
Besides Kangaroos kick and hurt. :p
As for Roos being a pest depends on who you talk to on that one. I've heard it said that they are an [b]Endangered Species[/b] Bloody Hopping Rats. They also have been known to kill cars and the odd truck as well., But on the up side Roos do far less damage to the ground that the sheep. :D
And Roo tastes much better too. Also Roo is supposed to be better for you so if you want to eat healthy you eat Roo not Sheep. See I knew there had to be something good about them. :^0
Col ]:)
by nentech
Imagine walking around with a snake tongue in your pants :(
Brrrr that?s scary
Could be hard on the ears
Drop your pants and all the woman run away screaming :_|
Maybe that?s the problem with the Aussies sexual frustration :^0
Hal
Gosh wet feet is that a flash flood for Australia :D
Not too bad I hope
You may need to move from a pebble to a rock to avoid it :^0
But it?s got to be better than fire
Hope you don?t see that for a long time
Cheers
Col
by deepsand
by hal 9000
Most of Brisbane was underwater and the flood reached the peek on Jan 26 or as some others may realise Australia Day our National Holiday. :D
Naturally where the river couldn't flow freely over the place it got a lot deeper and in many areas the water was not only fast flowing but full of you really don't want to know what. :0
Back then I was a volunteer for the SES that's the State Emergency Service and at one place a team of use where sent in to help members of the public evacuate. When we first walked in there, we had a few inches of water over the ground 3 hours latter we where walking out up to our necks in the smelly nasty stuff. It didn't go down for days/weeks either. But the next door down to where I was going in was pulling semi trailers out of the building that where well underwater. The first one that they pulled out had everything shut up tighter than a drum. When some idiot opened a door he didn't touch the water for 40 feet. :D
They took our recommendations after that and sent the diver back to the trucks when they got out of the Building doors and opened up the truck doors. It actually looked really funny to see a completely dry wheeled end loader and 30 feet further on the roof of a semi just emerging from the muddy water.
But now in the SE Queensland it's wet and on the west coast they have fires burning out of control. What makes things even worse, in Melbourne where they have all 4 Seasons per Hour it's been Hot and on New Years Eve it got down to 42 C just after Midnight so it was a bit warmer there during the day. Here it was [b]COLD[/b] Melbourne stole out fine weather and gave us all their rain for 55 years by the looks of things. We have another big low hitting the place now and the likely hood of a Cyclone affecting us by next week.
[b]Still Cold & Wet here. [/b] :(
Col
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