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Ok by now i'm sure the people of TR have discovered that I love to start Discussions :P I'm a very talkative type of person, AND, I came in an hour early today to do some Warcraft playing before it was time to start working, just to discover that I've left my laptop at home and can't play warcraft :P So now you all are stuck with 100% of my attention for the next 2 hours.
I did some scanning with the search through the forums about Linux conversations where gaming was concerned, and every one of those forums turned into XP vs Vista, vs Machintos convo's, im still scanning them, but until that I figured I'd start a new discussion since some of those are just 3-4 hundred pages long lol.

Any how.. here's my question.

I'm looking for a Distro of Linux that that has a good Gui, is easy to setup, and the 3D Accerlation is not hard to get working. I need a distrabution that will work with both World of Warcraft, AND Call of Duty 4 :)

My computer has a RAM problem, but it only happens in Windows, I had SUSI Linux installed for several months on a partitan and it never crashed once, Windows crashes twice a week on me and Vista crashes twice a day because of this RAM problem. The problem I had with Linux was I have an Nvidia 7600 256 ram card, and the 3D acceleration would not start up for the life of me.

So lets discuss what are the best Linux OS's for gaming?

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by charliespencer

"every one of those forums turned into XP vs Vista, vs Machintos convo's"

Yeah, that's kind of discouraging. You can find a couple of discussions that remain on a reasonable, intelligent level, but most of them quickly deteriorate into p!ss!ing contests.

If you've got a RAM hardware problem, it won't remain confined to Windows. Look for the free Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool; it will check your RAM for problems. If it doesn't find anything wrong, it's probably your page swap file. That would also explain why the problem is limited to Windows, since another OS wouldn't use the same swap file. Try turning your virtual memory off, rebooting into Safe Mode, defrag'ing, turning vm back on, and rebooting into Normal Mode.

Not an answer to the question you asked, but hopefully helpful anyway.

by dhuffine

I actually ran one a few months back after I had tried everythign else, and it give me a few error messages which I did lots of research on and came to all but dead ends, finally after talking to a fellow IT friend they seem to feel strongly that my "Memory Controller" on my motherboard is going bad. When I asked him why it crashes in Windows XP/Vista but not in Linux the only thing he could come up with is the method in which the different OS's access the memory.

He said that Vista, grabs 75-80% of your memeory and holds it all in a critical usage state, where as XP only holds 25%, so it because of that it would happen 3 times as more with Vista than with XP (which is the case most of the time), because Vista is accessing the memory more oftenly.

Where as with Linux, it only accesses what memory it needs when it needs it, so if the point of crash is once i hit a certain peek of memory usage or a certian percentage, unless I'm running a pretty heavy load on Linux, it will probably never hit that point.

Now I'm not very familiar with that type of Memory knowledge so I took it for what it was worth and closed the case.

by dhuffine

I have tried litterly 12 different Ram Sticks already.. When I put less ram in it happens more often. If I have 512 or less the crashes will happen back to back in vista, and maybe once an hour or so depending on what im doing with XP, even if I only have 126 megs of ram in Linux I don't crash once.

by deity_chooch

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think that you're going to have much luck finding a GNU/Linux distribution that will play those games. When people talk the new/best/fastest/prettiest games, they're talking Windows systems. Sure, GNU/Linux is getting more attention and there are some good games for it (I believe Doom 3 is the latest game available for GNU/Linux), but I think you'll find most of the games that you want to play will not run well, if at all.

P.S. Some searching on the Internet suggests that WoW can be played with wine (although the post suggests it takes a fair amount of toiling), but I have yet to find any information for a Call of Duty 4 game working on a GNU/Linux system. Also, it shouldn't matter which distribution you choose, although if you're new to the GNU/Linux world, you might give Ubuntu a try: I've heard several good things about it.

by dhuffine

I have actually gotten WoW to work on Susi Linux 10 a few months back, yes it took a good bit of work but I found it easier to do with Crossfire or Crossover (?) than with Wine, whichever, the problme I had was Susi made it extermely hard to get 3d Accerlation started and WoW will only run at .01 frames per second without 3d Accerlation.

by tig2

And you want me to think???

Wine, Crossover, Cedega. Virtual Machine.

Can I go back to bed please? Or get more coffee???

I liked you. But then you made my brain hurt. You should email me chocolate now.

Its a menopause thing...

by charliespencer

"It's a menopause thing..."

Does that mean you didn't want chocolate before you hit your late 40's, and won't care about it after you've gone through "The Change"?

Pull the other one, it's got bells on.

by tig2

I STILL don't care much for chocolate. And I'm not in my late 40s, I'm hardly mid 40.

I seriously doubt that I will care much for chocolate ever.

Sometimes you play the recognizable stereotype card.

by jaqui

try screaming at the game company for not making a linux version.

seems the games use that MS only thing called directx, you know, the proprietary version of opengl that is required to run even a basic widows box.

by jdclyde

Emulators will never run a program as smoothly as one that is designed to run on the chosen platform.

Isn't the fault of the platform, but the problem of not writing for the audience.

On the other hand, it is also partially the linux communities fault, because how many *nix users at home will pay $50 for a game?

by jaqui

how many more $50.00 games could gamers buy if they were on linux instead of having to spend $x00.00s on windows and anti-malware software?

that will get more of a positive reaction from the gaming companies.

by jdclyde

Emulators will never run a program as smoothly as one that is designed to run on the chosen platform.

Isn't the fault of the platform, but the problem of not writing for the audience.

On the other hand, it is also partially the linux communities fault, because how many *nix users at home will pay $50 for a game?

by dhuffine

Truely it is, Vista stole so many idea's from Linux on the way it functions (as far as elevation goes, and I can't think of them now but I do recall coming accross allot of things while using Vista and saying, "wow just like linux!)

Either way its Fear, i'm sure Devil Gates is running around to gaming companies threatening there first borns if they build games for platforms like Linux, Gates doesnt fear Mac because he has them in his back pocket.

by techexec2

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You're right that Microsoft works to keep vendors from developing for other platforms.

[b][i]"...Gates doesnt fear Mac because he has them in his back pocket..."[/i][/b]

No. Microsoft doesn't fear the Mac because Gates knows how Steve Jobs thinks. Gates knows that Steve Jobs will not open up the Mac to 3rd party hardware makers. It's not how he likes to operate. Closed Mac. Closed iPhone. Closed iPod. Closed iTunes Store. Closed FairPlay technology. Closed. Closed. Closed. Jobs has had decades to duplicate Windows' successful business model and has repeatedly chosen not to do it. This "dooms" the Mac to always being a relatively small player in the marketplace regardless of how great it is (and ... it's pretty damn great). And, it ensures the Mac doesn't threaten Microsoft's business model or market power at all.

Personally, I would really like to see Apple offer Mac OS X for the X86 PC complete with Apple-sponsored X86 hardware and software developer support programs. That would REALLY shake things up. The line outside the Apple Stores on the day "Mac OS X86" went on sale would rival any software or hardware launch in history. Even I might show up (I would certainly buy it). And, it would cause Microsoft and Apple to enter a very hot war. Fun! Fun! Fun! :^0

But, this is pure fantasy. Jobs will never do it. Furthermore, Apple is thriving as a closed company and it makes no sense to put a stick in Microsoft's eye and make a powerful enemy. Apple and Microsoft are really allies, you know. They only allow the public to think otherwise. Linux and open source is a threat to BOTH Microsoft and Apple. Where's the iTunes for Linux? QuickTime? Safari? You get the idea.

[b]The Windows Ecosystem[/b]

By contrast, Windows provides an ecosystem for everyone to play in. PC OEMs. Retail PC stores. Hardware component makers. Peripheral makers. Software makers. Giant enterprise and government customers. Small and medium businesses. IT departments that make their living and justify their existence by fixing broken Windows systems over and over. :^0 Etc. And, Windows has this huge momentum that keeps things rolling even when Microsoft really screws things up like they have consistently since Windows XP in 2001 (before that too). It is just appalling how bad Vista is. If any other Fortune 50 company screwed up so badly, every single executive would have been fired a long long time ago.

Of course, it's not a safe or friendly ecosystem. For example: Software makers in the ecosystem always find themselves crushed by Microsoft, one way or another. And, if a hardware maker p*sses them off, Microsoft will work closely with a direct competitor to make them tow the line. Example: Microsoft embraced AMD, IBM PowerPC, RISC, DEC Alpha, and a few other CPU makers to make Intel tow the line and to stay out of the software business.

[b]Microsoft fears ... Linux![/b]

There is something that Microsoft does fear however: Linux and open source. Microsoft is scared to death of Linux. Linux is [u]really[/u] good. Linux runs on the same inexpensive commodity hardware that Windows does. In that sense, Linux is riding on the commoditization and hardware standardization coat tails that Microsoft has worked to create (of course, Linux must often write its own drivers, so it's not a completely free ride). Linux is not proprietary so it operates as if it is owned by everyone. Microsoft cannot just stomp out "the vendor" because there is no vendor. Linux and open source projects such as Apache, Samba, and PostgreSQL have lots of financial backing from all of the competitors that Microsoft has p*ssed off over the years: IBM, Sun, Novell, etc. And, of course, there are independent companies in the Linux ecosystem: Red Hat, Canonical, Mozilla, Google, Yahoo, etc.

Microsoft fears Linux and open source. And, it's a lot of fun to watch Microsoft squirm! :^0

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