Consumed with IT
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The way they've taught kids in the UK over the last twenty years and counting makes me livid.
Competition is bad for them, good attitude for the real world that.
Fun thought.
Privacy is a big issue now. Unfortunately, governments seems to hamstring the legislation every time they get near it. The data protection act in the UK seems to have more exceptions than rules.
Vice Versa as well.
News story the other day was how a lot of our goverment agencies were shredding documents by the tonne ready for when our Freedom Of Information act comes into force.
an internet freezer was a browser bolted to a freezer, the only thing it did was save you a power socket.
Now if it monitored the contents, and ordered some more frozen meals for one that would be potentially useful. Of course they would have defrosted by the time you got home. Fridge would be whole different matter
If NoOfBeers <=16 Then
Call Order(Beer,MaxBeers - NoOfBeers,Supermarket)
End If
Damn I'm coding in BASIC automatically now, where's my pascal manual.
Seriously the potential is there, but most of it at the moment is gimmicks.
After all anyone can superglue a pc to a kitchen appliance, I just can't figure out why I would want to buy one.
by hal 9000
Then you will not need the super glue they will just talk to each other regardless of if you want them to or not.
Col
by house
Fatty was my cat, so I guess he is my favourite. Kissa was my girlfriend's cat before we met, and Chaton, the orange guy, is one we adopted together.
My cat... her cat... and our cat. :)
I had this sudden thought, about 100,000,000 clock cycles after implementation. Your house would be
Discussing your habits with next door.
Reading your mail when it opens it for you.
Burning it's logo for equal rites.
Wanting a divorce with half both of your incomes as AIlimony.
LOL
by hal 9000
Talking with your Bank/Mortgage Owners computer working out ways to rip you off without you even knowing it is happening.
Lest see your pays gets automatically transfered into your bank account and then the house automatically redirects the entire pay into the mortgage and then allows you to borrow against the mortgage to actually live and pay for the little unnecessary things like electricity and food.
Then communicates all your buying habits with the product referral companies so you can be targeted for any new appliances that comes onto the market.
Col
by house
Ok.. ok.. ok.. You guys got me. I should check my sources next time. I have an old Sybex A+ book that lays out the history of manageable software. Gates was creditted with the invention of the BASIC language. For the past 5 years, I have been under the impression that this was a fact.
My mistake. :)
by house
Need a new Mobile so.
Went in the shop, was immediately pinned to the counter by three sales people, who told all about the brand new phone with GPS, internet, blue tooth ....
They seemed shocked when I asked them if you could ring pople up with it, as though I'd asked if you could use it for a bizarre sex act.
Current trend you're going to be told about all sorts of connectivity, speed, power .... And then have to say
Yes, but will it freeze my food ?
I can manage the VCR, washing machine, now that's an entirely different matter. There's a device that would benefit from a GUI.
by dafe2
by mandrake64
Think beyond the now.
Mankind (with the exception of the bulk of the human population, i.e. developing and third world countries) enjoys its association with IT.
But consider this, we continue to build ever smaller componenents with lower power consumption but want faster performance so use a lot of them together to achieve this. The world's power consumption is increasing as more nations are modernising.
And you must not forget the power it takes to manufacture these components. With the world oil production near its peak and likely to fall sharply over the next 10 years, what will power all these IT devices. Will we all end up with slower devices powered by solar panels on our hats and office windows?
I don't think many people will care much about technology if there is a shortage of clean water, or cheap fuel unless it is directly contributing to their survival.
Graduate in IT, came in to help me with an interface. Explained I wanted to set up a socket link between his system and mine and he asked me what TCP/IP was.
????
Nothing like sitting next to a riverbank for eight hours completely unreachable by anybody.
Reminds me I need a new bait alarm and there's radar on special offer at the local angling shop.
Might not get that though as they added GPS, Blue Tooth and a mobile phone to it now.
by eggy
Well, while you're waiting for that BlueTooth option, may as well head back down to the river for more fishing!
Guess I won't be seeing photos of your latest catch (or my 'prize tomatoes') on your 'blog site, eh?
Enjoy!
Pete
by salamander
by salamander
...Funny how that stuff works out with the "yours," "mine," and "ours," doesn't it? Felines are great judges of character. :)
Sometime, I should figure out a way to send you the pictures of my little friends, especially the one that looks like your girlfriend's cat. You guys would be amazed at how much this kitten looks like your Kissa.
J-K Flip Flops
Address decoders
Reverse Polish Notation
LIFO stacks
I got my start in computing because one of the physics teacher's at my school was your sort of nut. He put a 6502 processor in a 19 inch case with hex key pad and a 8 digit led display, taught me the basics.
Didn't learn everything off him though my first computer came assembled.
48k , never use all that.
LOL
by admin
Ah yes, those were the days when you could almost make a whole something yourself! Now my employees think its really wierd that I have a solder station on my bench ~LoL~ :)
Have you ever thanked your physics teacher? I had a similar teacher that taught 4th graders how to build a wind generator (out of an old bicycle rim and generator) Methane generator (1 gallon glass apple cider jug and some stoppers and glass tubing) and a solar water heater (five gallon bucket insulated in a frozen food shipping container fed by a garden hose in a scrap wood frame under a recycled window). All of us kids felt soooo empowered- we could actually build our own energy sources!
A little off topic in an IT forum, but I gotta say that if I could find (I've tried) Mr. Roberts from Jennings Lodge Elementary School I would give him the HEARTiest thank- you ever!!!!
Those people who take time to show kids how to really do stuff are incredible!
yep, and I remember well the thought of 48k being an immense amount of memory! ~LoL~
Thanks Tony :>
by callanykey
I got the "buzz" in 1978 when 13. This is my 17th year in the industry. I can't help but notice that the average user?s literacy hasn't improved at all.
Yesterday an 18 yo wanted MSN back on the system after I'd done a reinstall. I directed her to woubaya woubaya woubaya DOT! bill gates etc... to download it.
She didn't know how to open IE!!!
However, she:
1 could type.
2 knew the latest version.
And 3 once installed and it looked familiar - was like a rat up a drainpipe using it!
They learn the bare min and that?s it.
Fear of technology destroys the ability to investigate and resolve even the most minor issue.
I don?t think the average user will be spending money on the gadgets that confuse, and further, their growing very sick of paying support costs.
The VCR is now in its last days. How many users have never worked out how to program the record timer? Surely this is one of the more desired features of the gadget?
The last PDA I bought cost me 54 cents! I went up market on the user interface paying $3.50 for a really nice flowing ink ball point jobie. Lets face it: it does the job, fits neatly in my pocket, works during power outages and the data is safe after being run over by a bus!
The world gets madder by the day, when the oil runs out will the technocrats know how to plant a crop? The internot won?t be able to help them.
by house
I take notes at work all the time. I brought someone a message on a piece of paper at work, and they looked at me like I was crazy. I find that there is no urgency in computer messaging technologies... If I feel that something is important enough, I will take note and approach the individual.
* I still use my pen and paper more often than not for quick information gathering. I spend about $20 to $40 on my pens though (kinda pointless, but I'm a dork that way). I have a few bic pens lying around in case someone needs to use it for a second. People like to steal pens as much as they like to steal lighters.
by dafe2
by dafe2
I just love the one where they ask if you want that extended warranty too.
Your right............for the most part it's better to buy new (or) as house says fix it yourself.
I was in to future some store not too long ago to get some cartriges for a 2 year old printer. I didn't realize how much they were until the checkout clerk asked me for $150.00.
I put them back & bought a new printer for $200.00 & some change.
by house
You can sign up for a free account at http://www.flickr.com. You can upload your pictures and post small messages similar to the ones that I left. It is a sort of blogging site, but it is more for pics. It took me about two minutes to set that up. :)
You could also peer mail me and I will respond with a valid email address that you could use.
by scsadmin
Part of your post was talking about not being able to fully understand a technology (because its developing so fast and becoming so complex). I think very, very few people do or ever have completely understood some piece of technology. In fact I enjoy not knowing it all, since it means I learn something new everytime I go to work. Of course some people aren't like that but I don't think you can last long in IT and not like learning new things (since you basically have to).
I think that this explosive growth will slow down, you have to remember that IT is still a pretty 'young' technology. Once growth has slowed then people will specialise and have their areas of understanding like with every other technology.
As for IT home appliances well I havent seen any great ones yet.
As for the quality of software, hardware etc well in the end business will get rid of the poor quality products. Like it has in every other sector (except of course where quality is delibrately poor so that the product is cheap .... damn it I hate exeptions).
cheers
by p_flick
House,
I'm not "consumed with IT," but your concern sounds very much like my mother's as things seemed to be spinning out of her control. Your kids will probably tell you what I told my mother: Want me to teach you? She chose to learn, and certainly, I'm no spring chicken.
There are always going to be luddites no matter when you are, just as there will always be those who worship "progress." And there will always be we conservatives who take advantage of and learn the things that truly keep us cutting edge and toss aside those things that don't.
Too much tech? Not a chance. If I had the time, I'd automate my entire house. As it is, my time is consumed by work, home, and school, all three of which involve IT to some degree. I have two laptops, two pc's that I built myself, and a palm pc, none of which are current. If I could, I'd link myself permanently to the internet, not that I need to be on all the time, but because I believe that it will be advantageous to do so in the future.
Of course, I have one small prejudice for this opinion: I am a geek. And I plan on being a geek until I'm at least 120, giving the kiddies a run for their money. Hell, many of them are trying to catch up to me now, so I wouldn't worry too much about how fast and far tech goes.
And really, only a small percentage of the world will be completely bleeding edge because it's just too darned expensive.
Keep looking up. Them aliens are bound to get here eventually. :>
by house
by hal 9000
Are the new appliances that just need a remote control for. The front panel controls are all but gone now days and to make it even worse you need a remote control to trigger the alarm to find the remote that you've lost in the first place.
A few years ago when you took in any appliance for service you where told to leave the remote at home or it would get lost but now the remote is an integral part of the appliance and when you have any service work done you still run the risk of loosing that remote which is only about half the cost of the original purchase price of the entire unit to replace.
Col
by gaijinit
Face it, technology advancement is never going to just stop. We are now working in a field that was unheard of 20 years ago. The 'clock race' may be stalled for now, but IBM? just announced a breakthrough in chip technology that allows chip miniaturization in the order of hundreds and related speeds just as bold. Miniaturization equals convenience for the user (imagine lugging around a 20Kg 'walkman'), and lower costs of production automation will soon equal 'throw away' devices.
So where is the future for IT pros? In the software/application end, not in the hardware. Redundant remote controllers are a burden to the consumer, and standards development must create an environment where a person can buy one remote to control everything is his home. Towards this end, unification of firmware is a must.
This will require agreement among competing manufacturers which is never easy (Beta vs VHS, Firewire vs USB 2.0) unless someone higher up (the government?) sets the rules. And the government reflects the general population (technologically clueless). Hopefully, government institutions will recognize the need for experts to help iron this mess out for the good of both consumers and ease of manufacturing costs, giving a much needed boost to the current host of out-of-work IT pros looking to employ their skills.
One thing I agree several postings completely about is that if some guidance is not provided, the present confusion can only get worse as technical discoveries open up new applications. They WILL be applied, sensibly and economically or not.
IT specializaton will continue to exist, but perhaps not as we now perceive it. But as always, if we don't grow with it, we will certainly be left behind. IT is one profession in which you NEVER stop studying and learning to stay up to date.
by jeff
Even my son would agree that scoring a goal (not on a ps2) or catching a fish is more fun than discovering you can listen to a snippet of a favourite tune on your mobile by getting your mates to ring you.
If you want a real laugh see if you can get the old atari tennis game console and swap it for your kids Xbox/PS2.
My dad hated it, "turn that bipping thing off".
I think it was bipping anyway.
LOL
by azlan101
I agree with your concern regarding unchecked development, but unfortunately that is the nature of any evolving species, in my belief.
Computers will take on their own life, grow, occupy every conceivable niche, and become as complex and as simple as required to meet the demands of it's environment. I've seen arguments that support that software will/and is becoming self-guided, writing itself in some instances or at least guiding decision making pathways. What I think you're noticing is that we are losing control of our ability to shape software to service our needs, as it becomes something onto itself. My question to the world is: do we accept that it is okay to let it evolve and then help it to change and become something more? or do we shrink away and attempt to hold onto control narrowing control to a very few whose agendas may not be in the best intrest of the whole?
by house
I am noticing that devices are becoming more configurable - thus leading to more technical issues in the administration and implimentation of such devices.
VoIP is the perfect example of that. With standard POTS, plug your phone into the wall... [i]presto[/i]. With a home VoIP endpoint gateway... you are opening up quite a bag of tricks. People who hardly even know how to boot their PC are trying to administer home networks with VoIP routers. This stuff might sound easy to us, but I speak with people who couldn't point a finger at their cable modem if their life depended on it.
It's great that we all have our options, but perhaps this trend is not for everyone.
by kyuso
As always with a substance that are evolving over time, there should be a clear goal of where we want it to be. Let the thing evolve, but at least provide some control to guide where it should evolve.
The goal of IT development should be to simplify and enhance our lives for more purposeful endeavors. Making things more complex only to create jobs tweaking and maintaining complexities is not the ultimate goal. IT should evolve to let us use the technology for furthering betterment, be it a stepping stone for higher level creation, better understanding of the universe, or propagating good ideas to the world.
Just like the bible implies, let the nature evolve with free will, but control it with the ultimate goal to create a perfect companion for the Designer.
IT should be allowed to evolve, but managed with the ultimate goal to aid us in our higher level endeavors.
by chughlett
It sounds like we need MORE gadgets. More software to connect all our incompatible programs. More hardware to bridge incompatible devices. More, more, more. What we really need is more industry motivation to simplify lives.
If industry can clearly see a demand for simplification, then it will suddenly come into greater supply. However, our society seems so amped with gadgetry these days (can't be without those MP3 bath slippers) that industry has motivation to dump ever-more narrowly compatible specialized gadgets.
Microsoft wants to keep the world of software development in the code-your-butt-off realm when it should have been in some iconic or visual symbolic paradigm for quite some time now. Take SoftWire or LabView. These tools are a small step in a better direction. In a better world, development of software would be a point-and-click experience. Let's face it, code is mundane and repetitive. Every coding task out there we programmers have done a million times before, maybe in a different language or on a different operating system.
What I wish for is developer kits. Not SDKs, but DDKs or Device Development Kits. It's almost too late to fix what went wrong in software development. Our tails will always be tucked in awe of the software powerhouses. But, if someone really nice were to create a company that profitted by helping Device Developers put their products on store shelves, in catalogs and websites, on TV... then maybe someone would put together Device Developer Kits that are in some way standardized. Of course, the company that sells Device Developer Kits would make a ton of money, just the way Microsoft makes so much on us lowly coders.
Standardized development tools might, just maybe, help to standardize some of the gadgets on our shelves.
I can't stay on topic, either. Blame it on Microsoft, everyone else does. :)
by house
I saw a pair of sunglasses with built in headphones and a USB jumpdrive/mp3 player. The first person to buy this one wins a prize... A slap in the face and a bit of ridicule from yours truly.
Regarding mundane code - of course, languages that are mounted onto others, for lack of a better explanation, promote the development of internal appz, but not necessarily groundbreaking software.
by rind
by house
What is with these cheap ink-jets that cost $50 for an ink cartridge - that you will drain while trying to clean the heads?
I've got a nice Lexmark Optra S 1855 laser. It costs me $200 -> $300 for the toner, but I get about 20,000 pages out of it. It is well worth the money in the long run.
by aceskaraoke
So...
Microsoft would be "The King"...
Aged in a nursing home. Fighting off...
Linux (the soul sucking zombies?) the relentless armies of Open Source fans.
Does sound plausible as a MS vs. Linux "movie"
Bill Gates nightmare on the big screen?
by aceskaraoke
Inventing things does not make you a genuis, and, unfortunately, being a genuis doesn't mean you're smart (sounds like an oxymoron, but let me explain).
Often inventions are made by necessity, serendipity, or pure accident. Though I'm sure there are many geniuses creating things daily, I believe that more often you'll find inventors just have drive and curiosity and that even when they don't get the result they expected, they document what result they did get and sometimes proceed from there.
Often invention just stems from a problem put forth with a need for solution. A prime example being the internet (ARPA and the ARPAnet at first). Some truly gifted minds were commissioned by the government to get some big computers in a few universities and the government to communicate with each other. These individuals broke down the problem into pieces; what languages would the computers communicate in, what sort of physical connection would there be, how would transmissions be initiated and carried out, etc.
They approached the problem logically and made it happen. Logic rarely embraces genius, and genius is rarely logical. Admittedly, there may have been a bit of both involved in the project. One of the biggest inventions of importance to the advent of the internet of today- email, was just created as an afterthought (serendipity).
True, now we have thriving e-commerce, huge amounts of information at our disposal, and search engines to sort through it all. In the beginning, it was hard to communicate from one computer to another and you really had to know what you were doing to find information; even once these things got refined a bit there wasn't much that would draw the average user in, much less make them want to spend the kind of money it took to buy a computer.
Something about e-mail is appealing- both personal and impersonal at the same time. It can be both professional and playful. Imagine if the internet today had no e-commerce, no glitzy websites, no search engines, AND no e-mail. How many average users would turn on their computer to do anything more than write a paper, play a game, or do their taxes? If it was just about information, the internet wouldn't be the phenomenon it is today.
Geniuses not smart? OK, I haven't forgotten about that. Of all those guys who were commisioned to create that first basic internet, how many are well known for it (except in very eclectic circles) or made a dime off their inventions or contributions? You guessed it...none of them...sad really, but I do think it illustrates the point of a genius not necessarily being smart.
Do I have a point? Yes, I almost forgot (it's 3am and I may be rambling a bit). Bill Gates may not be a genius, but he IS smart. He has the gift of recognizing POTENTIAL and thinking of ways to market and exploit it. He may run out of options if he doesn't find a way to adapt to, overcome, or Borg-style assimilate Linux and its rising importance in business and home use.
by aceskaraoke
Is the heat and humidity getting to you?
Or the hurricanes?
Or all the old people?
You may be feverish...you seem a bit delusional.
Did you watch the "Manchurian Candidate" recently?
If you answered yes to any of these questions (or even if you didn't), please report to the brain-washing academy for debriefing and subsequent re-programming.
by rind
by rind
by louisrizzo
by gratefulblue
by pitsburghtek
I don?t think the issue for me is ?being consumed by IT?, but rather how to integrate the various technologies into a cohesive structure. The rapid pace of technological advances has opened the world of delivering Information at a phenomenal rate. Keeping up with this is a struggle at times. But by remaining ?true? to the goals of IT I keep my self-sane. I see the IT world as the art & science of INFORMATION. Not gadgets but information. The technology that comes with Information Delivery is ever changing and can seem like a roller coaster ride, but technologies come and they go. What fuels this is the desire of humans to be ?connected? and ?Informed?. Be it by Cell phone, Email, Blogging, surfing the internet or getting the organizations latest productivity reports off of the Citrix server. They all have the common denominator of being informed or connected in some way to other people or group.
I have a desire to ?look under the hood? and figure out how things work, which I guess is what got me into IT. I am obsessed with new things and trying to figure them out. It bothers me that I do not ?know? why or how something works. I guess this all fits into the SCIENCE part of my analogy.
Then there is another part that might be considered the ART. Problem solving is something I have always liked doing. Puzzles and brainteasers are fun, but the ultimate ?high? for me is solving a problem for someone else. I see a lot of people with problems in IT. The problem could be a simple instruction on an Excel spreadsheet or it could be how to take a report and turn it into a usable database that automatically gets updated daily, or it could be rewiring data-cables from one end of a building to another on an hours notice.
It seems to me there is a constantly shifting balance between the Art & Science of IT. But doesn?t it really come down to one thing:
Harnessing the love of learning new technologies and in turn integrating these new ?tools? of IT to solve people?s problems.
by gratefulblue
by hal 9000
We already have what is called a "Freedom of Information Act" in place but in fact it really boils down to a Freedom from Information in the real world.
You can get pages where everything but the page number is blacked out the whole thing is really lubricious and what makes it even better is that if a Government wants to bury something that just have to put it on the agenda for Cabinet that way it is privileged information and is locked away for 30 years no matter or not if it was even actually looked at.
Col
by hal 9000
Turnaround on plant this is because after that time the Tax Benefits of keeping the old stuff just do not add up.
They actually begin to cost the company money to run that is the hardware in IT anyway. Even MS could make a very nice living by still selling Windows 98 and supporting it currently I buy new copies of MS DOS for some applications and while MS is more than happy to sell it they offer absolutely no support for it. I actually thinks that breaks the AU Law on selling Mechanizable product but I'd rather have the new DOS and no support than have to re-engineering everything over to embedded XP.
Col
by chief125
by hal 9000
There was a time when Auto Transmissions where more expensive than the manual's but today it is the opposite as any manual will cost you more to buy new than an auto of the same type. Also the Autos are now far more complex as well. Even the current crop of Electronically controlled Autos while having some benefits for the idiots as you can be moving forward select reverse and they just will not pick up the gear so they are more reliable from that point of view, but by the same token a friend of mine who works on these things claims that on most repair jobs he only has to attack the electronics and generally doesn't have to remove the transmission from the car to effect the repair. But it now costs more to repair and the shop doesn't make as much in the job either.
Col
by jamesrl
The war was fought because the south wanted to protect states rights, and chose to secede to do so. The states right that the south wanted to protect most of all(though not the only one) was the right to decide whether or not they could have slaves. They were worried that with the balance of power in Washington, and new states being made "free" states it was only a matter of time that the majority of the more populated north, and the new free states would make an ademendment to the constitution to ban slavery.
So while you are technically correct, you don't note the causal factors. Its like saying WWI was started because somebody shot Archduke Ferdinand - there are years of causation before that event.
Ironically, on issues other than slavery, the Confederacy became more autocratic and less concerned with states rights when the "survival" of the Confederacy was at stake.
James
by hal 9000
Without your very own Serving Robot wouldn't it?
The consumer society just couldn't function without all the mod cons as the Jones would be all by themselves with no one to be compared with would they?
Col
I never did formally, too late now has he's in the big school in the sky. My brothers and sister followed me through the same school though and he used to ask how I was doing. By total co-incidence his name was A.J. Hopkins, we had the same middle initial too.
640K never use that
1M not possible
Now all you do is load your browser and word processor. Wonder if the rate of technology increase will ever slow down enough for memory to be important again in normal business programming.
Coding would become an art again instead of a science.
by house
That's a good point. There are many options associated with stereo, television, and home entertainment equipment in general, which are only accessible throught the remote control.
I have a receiver with which I cannot save radio stations to the quick keys without using the remote. I haven't been able to find that remote for some time now. I've also had a universal remote that didn't allow me that option either.
by chief125
by sonicwallroc
Don't see it happening. A perfect example are cars. How many years have they been at building them? Are they EVER done? Nobody is ever happy and people are becoming even more lazy, which is the reason technology continues to want to combine everything into one little piece.
Not only that, but how complex do you want them? Do you want them to go to the bathroom for you? There must be some way to get a computer to tell me when it's time to go, the nearest bathroom and exactly how long it takes to do my business! lol
Lew
by sonicwallroc
Not me man. It's a job. I'm happiest when I have time to fish, hunt, read and especially spend more time with my family.
I don't think businesses are "scared" of change. I think that they're scared of getting hosed in the process of ALWAYS changing. Upgrade this, upgrade that, but what is my REAL ROI????
Lew
by sonicwallroc
by aldanatech
by jevans4949
Looking at many of the above posts, I am reminded that an senior IBM Exec in the 1940's predicted that the world might one day need as many as four computers. A British Government report in the early 1950's went a bit further; Britain might one day need as many as 20. And didn't a senior exec at Digital once ask "Why would anyone want a computer in their home?". I believe the same sort of remarks were made about the original telephone when it was first launched.
My point: don't shut your eyes to the possibility that just because you don't see the use for a technology that other people won't. Even if that use is frivolous. (Computer Games, anyone?)
Most of the development in consumer electronics to date has been in the fields of communication and entertainment (audible, visual or written.) Many of the predictions for the future hinge around automating "home administration" (e.g. automating food re-ordering). An area where we have failed to apply ourselves is "home robotics." You can now get robotic lawnmowers and vacuum cleaners, but these are still fairly dumb. The average washing machine is still fairly low-tech. When we acquired our kitchen stove 18 years ago, it had a timer to stop and start the oven. I believe even this sort of thing is not now on the market. The UK Grand Prix driver Stirling Moss famously had an automated home back in the 1950's - whatever happened to that?
My personal wish list would be a home-use numerically-controlled machine shop, to cover up my incompetence in woodwork and metalwork. There must be a market out there.
Finally, we had recently in the UK a TV series called "Robot Wars". In point of fact these fighting machines were not robots, but dumb radio-controlled machines. Still some way to go there, too.
by mxyzyptylk1
I've never seen so many sets of blinders since the last Clydesdale walkthrough. This technology acceleration is not restricted to the Home PC world or the IT world: it's happening everywhere that the government has no control over development. And it's what they had in mind when DARPA, and the Internet, came to be. GM's latest "car" prototype is basically an all-in-one technology sled suitable for getting any type of body installed. X-Prize, anyone? We finally have collision avoidance systems that avoid collisions with the earth as well as other planes, not to mention collision avoidance with other cars or telephone poles. Most of the power saws they offer today come with an alignment laser built-in. GMRS can now go 7 miles. You guys have a tremendous advantage in that you can at least recognize the changes when they bite you on the butt. The average person today seems to think it's all some form of enhanced delivery system for pizza, porno, and professional sports. Cell Phones? The equivalent of wireless telephony use to take a cubic yard of equipment, and now most of the three cubic inches of phone is battery and a plastic case designed to fall oiut of your hand and under the next large falling object. And yet we have over 30% of the country insisting there is no proof for evolution, and forming flash protests with their cellphones and EMail. And yet when the Tsunami watchers in Hawaii saw the big one coming, they had no way of disseminating the information to the countries they could warn in time, because the governments there are at about the same state they were in 1930 (one wonders if India would even have warned them).
Time to go back and watch your (bootleg) copies of "Brazil" and "Rollerball", guys. And keep learning how to program your VCRs.
by firstaborean
House, you feel trapped in an IT swarm of bees. You oughtn't. There's no trap at all, because everybody has a choice limited only by means (money) and availability. Nobody has to use everything or understand everything, and nobody has to do without the technology, except for those who are too poor to buy in.
I don't see any dilemma at all, and I've been around long enough to know. When I was little, the transistor had yet to be invented. A lot has happened since then, and I have never felt the need to keep up with all of the latest technology. Why should I? Whether professionally or as a consumer, I buy and learn what I need or desire, and I leave the rest. Most folks do the same.
If the speed of advance of technology does not bother me, it ought not to bother you. My advice is to enjoy and stop worrying.
Anybody who disagrees and has a rational argument is invited to send me an E-mail.
by hal 9000
I think you mean the Solid State Transistor here don't you?
I'm considered almost as a Dinosaur by most of the new breed coming up now days but I can remember the vacuum tube transistor very well I even started a major argument/"Problem" when I asked where a defibrillator had been found in such good condition as it was all valves. What I didn't know at the time was it was a new model and that Solid State was not allowed to be used in Medical Equipment because the reliability factor was not as yet known.
But it was worth the looks of horror on the faces of the sales people. I think that Solid State TV had only been in production for 10 years back then but the brand new medical equipment was all valve. It really makes you think on the mentality of those in power who make these decisions though and then having to relearn all the old valve stuff again, what a nightmare.
Anyway I'm still unable to program a VCR and leave that to the wife with a comment something like I'm only a lowly Computer Teck what else can you expect?
Col :D
I remember valves. That was when the tv repair man, did more than just bring you a new telly. Always fascinated me as a kid, watching him getting them all glowing when the back was off, sort of like lighting up the xmas tree, but you got to watch the clangers when he was done.
There was a craze for valve amps not so long back and CRTs are still used a lot, so the technology is still alive and glowing.
by hal 9000
Because I think they produce a more faithful response curve than any Silicon technology can, but then again I can also remember a repair job at a drive in movie place that I had to fix up after an apprentice had gone out and fixed things up. They used an old AB Class Valve AMP that had a 110 V output and then transformers to step down to the speaker.
Naturally the apprentice being such a bright lad had connected the secondary leads of the transformer to the output of the amp and the primary's to the speakers.
I can personally vouch for that one as I did touch one of the output leads and was flung quite a distance which was quite surprising at first as I was pulling the speaker box apart at the time so I didn't know what had happened, just that I'd got another belt again.
Which shouldn't have happened, apparently the apprentice had the amp switched off and replaced every transformer in the place and then on switch on nothing worked for some funny reason which he couldn't work out. When he saw me flying across the ground he made a rapid exit they guy that owned the place insisted that his feet didn't touch the ground he was running so fast.
Anyway when I again approached "Very Cautiously" the speaker box that I'd been pulling apart and only touched it with insulated things it very soon became apparent what had happened. So I got the owner to switch off the amp then waited about 30 minutes for the capacitors to discharge the amp was a massive thing that just sucked electrical power like there was no tomorrow and one belt a day was my limit at that point in time.
Anyway I replaced every transformer and every speaker and everything worked perfectly the transformers probably where OK but as they had been used in such a manner I wasn't going to take the risk as if one was to burn out the chances of damaging the amp was too great.
Actually when that place shut I tried very hard to get my grotty little hands on the mono amp but luckily for me I didn't get it as my wife would have killed me without a second thought as it was about 25 foot long 8 foot high and 4 foot deep it was a massive thing and ran off three phase power I can just see the look on "She Who Must Be Obeyed" face if I had of turned up at home with that thing. But for all of its limitations it did produce some very good sound and was far better than the solid state unit that he originally brought to replace the old Valve Amp with.
Apparently the Solid State never worked properly so he kept it as a backup and used the valve amp all the time. The first time that I visited that place was when the apprentice screwed up and I tried very hard to get the guy to part with the valve amp after I got the Solid State unit working properly as it had never been installed properly but he had by that stage =had a gut full of the new amp and didn't want to know about it so he kept using the valve amp as it just worked. Actually I think the same apprentice was responsible for installing the new solid state amp so that was where most of his problems originated as the little fool was far more dangerous then helpful. I really do not know how he survived till the 4 th year which was when I first ran into him after an transfer. I was always trying to kill him off because he for some reason was always trying to electrocute me through his ignorance. I think he was the son of one of the powerful people in the town so he was guaranteed a job for life no matter just how bad he was.
The little fool was driving around town one night and spinning out his car and so forth of course right in front of the Police and when they attempted to stop him he bolted out of town and then stopped his excuse was he couldn't be seen to be stopped by the Police in front of his friends. Well he was instructed to turn up and surrender his license the next day so he got roaring drunk drove up to the Police Station and parked outside but didn't manage to stop before running through the fence and then from what I was latter told crawled up to the front desk to surrender his license. The cops just told him to disappear and come back when he was sober and with someone to drive him home. The little SOD really didn't care and was just like that. He would borrow some tools and when he had finished undoing whatever just throw the tool on the ground and when needed again approach someone else to borrow the same tool again which he could then throw onto the floor and walk all over.
I only really tried to kill him on 3 occasions well that was all that the Police actually found out about anyway they would send down a junior officer to have a talk to me to calm me down which never worked as by that time he had really got to me and I would not be satisfied until I was wearing his head on a screwdriver so I was taken back to the Police Station where the guy in charge just sat down and drank with me and was swapped stories about just how bad he actually was. I eventually began to feel sorry for the Police and would calm down as while he only attempted to kill me to them he showed them absolutely no form of anything at all. It was a regular thing there everyone was at one time or another attempting to kill him off.
Col
by hal 9000
Around 11 or 12 I was playing with electro magnets and I thought if I could get such a nice magnetic field from such a small power supply in this case a 1.5 volt battery just how much better would it be if I could use mains power?
I got a bolt and wound it with quite a lot of enameled wire so much so that it didn't actually blow a fuse but of course there was no insulation where the wires joined the mains lead. We must have played with this for about 3 hours until my father saw what we where doing and got slightly distressed. At the time I couldn't understand it but now I can see just how dangerous it was.
But as they say what doesn't kill us only makes us gain more knowledge!
Col :D
by zlitocook
by jardinier
This phrase immediately caught my eye because a now deceased, very good friend of mine, Professor Ross Blunden coined this term some years ago.
Ross helped build the first ever computer in Australia at the C.S.I.R.O (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation) but subsequently became Foundation Professor of Traffic Engineering at a Sydney university. This was the first "chair" in this field in the British Commonwealth.
Well Ross used to carry with him always a small program which he had written on a hand-held computer, which determined the rate at which traffic could flow as it converged at an intersection.
And he combined his two disciplines to come up with the expression: "The information super-highway."
He correctly predicted that the Information Super Highway would in time become clogged with excessive traffic of data, just as normal highways developed bottlenecks as vehicular traffic increased.
by chriss
When cars were first introduced, driver's needed to be mechanics to get from A to B. Today it matters not whether you know what the carburettor is, or how a differential works. Cars have become so ubiquitous and (relatively) reliable, we no longer need a great deal of specialist knowledge to drive one.
All new technology has created tension in its current society. All new technology has been credited with revolutionising, improving or destroying all we hold dear. Most of the time it doesn't.
There is a great tendency in us all to imagine that the problems we face are unique in history, and that our time is the worst or the best of times (to paraphrase Dickins).
Technological development and change will continue as long as there is technology.
by house
The percieved need to catch up with a competitor's new thing, no matter how inappropriate has resulted in some very poor quality out on the market. Taking the time to do things right has been sacrificed, in favour of getting things done enough to call them a product.
My profession doesn't call for the constant variation in tools you guys see, but I too can get lumbered with crap on a regular basis. Things appear to be changing for the better at my level, as people are beginning to see how much crap costs, but that's going to take a while to filter through, and it will be dropped in an instant, if the pace of change increases back to it's previous levels.
I'm actually enjoying my work more now even though I'm being paid less for doing something better. Funny old world.
Your points are excellent and I used to feel just as you seem to. I, too, was around "pre-transistor" and remember my Grandfather (whom I greatly respected) pointing out pretty much the same observations.
But-
The new, unique things I have observed over the last decade or so that worry me are (A) this technology too often goes to the personal level (B) the rate of "new" releases is ridiculously fast and accelerating and (C) most of these ?advances? have little or no practical use but the marketing of them (again, mostly at the personal level) convinces way too many that they ?need? it.
I often wonder if the .com bust of a couple of years ago was only the start and we have yet to face the real correction when all this ?junk? collapses under its own weight.
My only hope is that the practical wins. Cars are useful. Transistors are useful. Making myself available for everyone, anytime or having my refrigerator tell me I need milk is not. It creates a clash between two very basic human needs that should always be balanced - the need to know and the time to think so you understand what you know.
At about 12 I think
I knew that 240 volts was too much
I knew that I could reduce the voltage with a resistor
I did not know by how much but this was easily solved by three salvaged tv volume knobs in series.
My dad knew nothing about electronics, but Mum made him very aware I was the culprit in terms of burnt table and raw dinner though and he resolved matters to his satisfaction with commendable vigour. Still haven't realy explained it to him as he'd probably give my ear another wallop.
by house
It all comes down to ignorant clients who's motto is - [i]I want it cheaper!!![/i] Fine... here it is. Just don't call me. If you call, I expect to hear the words [i]You were right and I was wrong![/i] I have no pity for these folks.
Obviously, like everyone else, I cannot afford the best of everything, but I understand what is going on when I end up with a 'bum deal'. I don't take it out on those who represent the product on a support level. You get what you pay for.
Chris
by hal 9000
When I was working as a consultant for a car company here in AU, I was sent around to all of the dealers to show how the electronics should be handled and how to do the job properly as we had a lot of parts returned as faulty which had obviously suffered a static discharge.
At the time I was driving a rag top 911 Porsche and one of the dealers being a fair distance away offered a good excuse to blow the cobwebs out of the exhaust pipe so I drove the 911 there.
This was totally unconnected with my job but I was none the less dragged into it. The company was making a Soft Top "Sports Car" and this particular dealer had sold one. The new owner brought it back in complaining that the roof leaked when it rained, "Big Thrill after all it was a rag top" but what astounded me was their attitude to the problem.
The female owner said in no uncertain terms that they had paid an excessive amount of money for this high cost car and it should be right. The car in question was under the 18 K mark and was built from parts supplied from many different companies. My response to the Dealers owner was "Well I'm driving a Porsche Rag Top and it leaks so what's the big deal?" But that was not good enough and a cure had to be found to keep the owner happy.
My solution was to drag her into the Porsche and drive her a short distance out of town in the rain and she complained that it leaked, I just said well if Porsche can not stop their rag tops from leaking how do you expect this company to? At the time I think I could have brought 5 of those cars and still had some change left over compared to the cost of the Porsche. Anyway the customer seemed happy enough but the Dealer owner thought differently so I just suggested that he take it up with the company and leave me out of it as I was the "Electronics Guy" and defiantly not the vehicle designer. But the leak was through the stitching on the soft top and there is no way of stopping this from happening, you can plastic weld the joint but it then tends to tear along the seam while the stitching just holds perfectly but allows a bit of water in.
Some people have different ideas of just what is an expensive product as this person was comparing her plastic car to the Porsche and thinking they should be the same in every respect.
OH I almost forgot she was having AC fitted when I left I never did understand why you would need AC in a rag top and just how well it would work. I can just see her now driving down the road in direct sunlight with the top down and the AC turned all the way up and still complaining that it was toooooo hot!
Col :D
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