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by onbliss

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...now that the Shilpa Shetty hoopla/joke has died down, what are your thoughts about the entire racket?

Reality TV programmes are just not my cup of tea, and I do not watch them. But I think improving the programme's TV ratings was at the core of the incident. I was surprised that Blair and Brown were dragged down into making comments about the episode. Did they succumb to the vote-bank politics? Or did you think there was really some racism involved? The Indian media were making hay when the Sun shone. Now they must have gone to the next "big" thing. How did the British media react?

Hmm... or did you not even know about this? :-)

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by gadgetgirl

notacatinhellschance!

It's been all over the damn media since it started.

It seems to have promoted her career, as she is now rumoured to be getting a starring role with Huge Grant in his next flick.

It looks for the most part to be a publicity stunt - but if it was, it has backfired severely. Jade whatserface has always had anger management problems (according to the media, it showed through on a few real life series she's done on her own) But Jo Whosit from SClub999 had to be taken into protective custody because of death threats.

(again, all gleaned from early morning news tv - haven't watched the shows; can't stand this reality stuff)

The excerpt I did see showed distinct bullying, with a racist tinge, but nothing that would have rocked the boat if the media hadn't made so much of it.

It belies belief that this was raised politically; proof that the media will do anything for a story, I think. (IMHO)

Max Clifford has now become her media rep, and where all the other contestants have given all fees for subsequent interviews to charity, Shilpa will not state where her interview fees are going....! (and, believe me, she's given more than a few interviews; you should see all the TV, Womens and Entertainment magazines this week - they all have her picture on the front cover!)

'bliss, I tried not to know about it, but was overwhelmed by media. Sad, but very true!

GG

by onbliss

I tried to not watch programmes based on this incident. But there were just too many. In one of those programmes, the British economist/politician Lord Meghnad Desai quipped about "Big Brother" as a "Third rate show watched by third rate people".

Looks like Jade Goody had to face the backfire. But if she plays her cards well she could even make use of her new gained notoriety. :-) Heard there were some offers for her too....

They just perfected the art of making reality TV shows.

ps: GG, by the way, I am yet to order my new cell phone :-)

by steffi28

And its not just been all over the news in UK either!

I heard about it here in Germany, and I had my friends over here asking me what I thought about it and what I thought about the political involvement! Its gotten everywhere!

by Member 25348569

Rose to celebrity-hood on the back of finishing third (I think) in an earlier non-celebrity big brother. She was characterised by being particularly ignorant and seems, for a while, to have struck a chord with a host of like-minded slappers who worship on the altar of minor celebrity in the UK. She got together a fortune rumoured to be ?8m and then, I think, the inevitable jealousy kicked in and people realised what a no-trick pony she was. By the time she got on the fateful BB, though, I think she believed her own publicity. She was racist in the thoughtless, casual way that an awful lot of people are - but have sense enough to be that way in private - but was extremely bullying and the press decided that the time had come. They - the media - are a lot more astute than Goody, saw which way the wind blew and decided to rip her apart for the further amusement of the masses. This they proceeded to do - and do ...

I suppose that Jade Goody was best summed up by Jeremy Clarkson "racist, pig-faced waste of blood and organs". But I though that long before BB as I'm not a fan of talentless celebrities (hence why I'm a republican).

But, following that idea, I'm not sure what use Clarkson is in the great scheme of things. AND he reckons Global Warming is a con...

Neil :D

No. I didn't watch it but we got so many clips on every news bulletin that I might just well have done.

by onbliss

Looks like essentially that is what things came down to. You summed it so brilliantly

[i]She was racist in the thoughtless, casual way that an awful lot of people are - but have sense enough to be that way in private - but was extremely bullying and the press decided that the time had come. They - the media - are a lot more astute than Goody, saw which way the wind blew and decided to rip her apart for the further amusement of the masses. This they proceeded to do - and do ...[/i]

It would horrify all of us, if only we all knew each other's inner most thoughts and what we said and how we conducted ourselves in private.

An interesting question would be is "Why did the wind blow in the direction that it blew"? A far more sinister question would be "How are the Europeans handling the massive immigrants from Asia and Africa?" "Are they overwhelmed?"

by Member 25348569

I think that whatever happens, the resolution will be in Spain, initially. They have two places where illegal immigration is particularly significant. The Canary islands are receiving boat loads from West Africa and Spain still has territory in Ceuta and Malilla which are geographically Morocco. They've owned the latter two since the Crusades and now they're finding that the security has to be tighter that anyone could have imagined. The security is having a knock-on in the boats from Morocco are now aiming form Sicily and Southern Italy.

I don't know how it will end but I don't reckon that it will be nice.

by jamesrl

I'm a big fan of Top Gear and Clarkson has his place. How else are we to enjoy schadefreude unless we can watch Jeremy do stupid things and then rattle on about them. He is an old fashioned kind of dinosaur, but its the interplay between him and his younger host peers that makes it interesting.

Exageration and hyperbole to the point where everyone in the audience knows its exageration is one of his trademarks.

I'm not sure what he really thinks about Global Warming but he does enjoy taking the mickey out of self important preachy environmentalists......

James

by Member 25348569

Actually, I'm a huge fan since they revamped the program from a serious motoring programs into a "Lads only" hour long show four or five years ago. I just find that I [b]like[/b] Clarkson and Hamster and even James May (who is a bit of a tosser at times). Last week they showed Hamster's crash at 288mph. It was frightening!

Neil

p.s I've just checked up exactly what JC said: "Some say he once threw a microwave oven at a tramp, and that long before anyone else he realised that Jade Goody was a racist pig-faced waste of blood and organs. All we know is he's called the Stig."

Personally, I think The Stig pees 95 RON (if he pees at all).

And I just so WANT some of those cars! Screw Global Warming if I can have a Bugatti Veyron.

by jesus_c

To be quite honest,it was a load of crap.Jade is a nob anyway.It's a bit ironic because that everybody loved her because she was a nob now everybody hates her because she is a nob.She just made shilpa famous.Twist of fait

by tony hopkinson

well apart from a snippet on the morning news which I found a complete waste of meaningless sound bytes.

Media drivel, this is the most thought I've spent on it and I'm regretting it already.

by steffi28

I really dont care.

Its a load of crap and I havent seen the clip yet but I know English media, it will of been blown out of proportion, and why should we all be bothered if someone was racist on the TV it didnt offend me personally, and I know (or hope) that most of the rest of the country isnt like that. Also no one in there right mind would see Jade Goody as a role model so its not going to increase the amount of racism, so why the big deal?

A friend of mine had to put up with worse than that every day of her life in school so just because its not on TV that makes it any less of a big thing. Theres people that put up with a lot more than what she got off Jade, and yes granted Jade shouldnt of said it but is that any reason for politicians to get involved, unless of course they have only just, because of BB, realised that theres a racism problem in UK. If they have, then our government is worse than I thought!

by onbliss

It is just not the English media. I do not know much about the rest of the world; but in my opinion the media in USA, England and India seem to be alike in many ways.

by onbliss

....it is just that the keys "7", "9" and right -arrow do not work. I am able to receive calls from my wife :-). That is fine by me.

by jamesrl

Sadly we never got the "Old" version of Top Gear, for as long as we've seen it, its been the three lads.

For the first few seasons, we saw it on BBC World, the news channel, and we got a half hour heavily edited version of the show.

Finally we got the whole hour on BBC Canada, but we typically get it some months/years behind original broadcast, and they replay it so often.

My secret has been that I can see the new bits on YouTube before it airs.

My wife and kids refuse to watch any other car show, but they happily join me when Top Gear is on.

I loved seeing all of Jeremy's problems with his Ford GT500.

James

by oz_media

I just download them the day after they air in the UK. High quality HDTV rips even. That way you can skip the junk and get to the goodies straight off.

About the only real motoring show in the tube these days, the others are far too commercial and funded now, and who cares abotu the new Honda when there's a V12 Euromonster eating the track at 180MPH?

by oz_media

Saw a really nice Countach today, circa late 1980's, when they did the white on white 25th anniversary model. Only drawback was that it had red leather (I like the white) and was missing the ground effects that made it look so overly low and cool. Those ground effects were ditched by most North American road laws because they were too low, offering little clearance for our crappy roads and speed bumps, nobody would insure them. They also have the front bumper too low here for our laws, ours ARE 4" higher which takes away from the rake, so I guess it was as close to cool enough for me as our laws permit anyway. Still a gorgeous car even this many years later, I definitely like it more than the Diablo.

Not the actual car I saw but very similar.
http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

LOL, just kidding, had it in the clipboard from posting to DanLM. :D

Actual link:

http://www.lamborghiniblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lamborghini-countach-lp400-s.jpg

by onbliss

I read an news item that mentioned about 200 S.E.Asians arriving in Canary Islands. But that is only about the illegal portion of the immigrations. Interesting times for Europe.

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