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by alpha-male
From everything I have seen, Dell is not only waging a price war, but winning it. They are selling huge volumes and able to "force the hand" of other companies. Gateway may be stopping competing because they simply can't afford to. Their market share has been steadily decreasing and I believe they have closed several overseas operations.
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-271294.html?legacy=cnet
More important than this, however is the QUALITY of what you get for your money. I have been a fanof Digital hardware for many many years because of the fact that, yes, they cost more, but I felt you got a better system for your money. Too bad Compaq has not followed that philosophy since they merged with DEC...maybe HP will?
Regarding my opinions of Dell and Gateway...they are similar in quality, but I'd probably give a slight nod to the Dells. Their service has a reputation for being good and on the encounters I've had with them, I've been extremely impressed (and surprised). I'm not abig fan of their "at once" construction of systems (as I recall, you can request a 80gb drive for example...but have no say in whether it's a WD, Maxtor, Fujitsu, Quantum or whatever was on clearance the week before). Still, I have heard far more praise for Dell than complaints about them. They are a solid company, making decent products and offering good customer service and are one of the few tech companies really thriving at this time. It's hard to compete with that.
Gateway makes a decent product too. I really liked their hardware some years ago...but if I were going to buy a system today, between Dell and Gateway, it would probably be a Dell.
Our company for many years was an HP site...but we too have been moving to Dells for all new servers, laptops and workstations. I would say that the value they offer is about as good as you can find today...
Good luck...
by swomack
by slim_jim_tx
I work in an educational environment, and we have had both Dell and Gateway. I can say that we have had much less problems with Dell's than the Gateways. Dell's service is great, we request a part from them and it is shipped and arrives the very next day. Gateway at the end it was hard to get the parts from them.
All I can say, Dell has made my job much easier. We no longer get Gateways on campus all we order now are Dell's.
P.S. - NEVER BUY COMPAQ'S
by swomack
Dell versus Gateway:
http://www.getmeadeal.com/topten/featured1.htm
http://www.epinions.com/cmd-review-39E8-938E617-38A8DFE4-prod6
http://www.techbargains.com/hottips/hottip3/index.cfm
http://www.upgradingandrepairingpcs.com/articles/upgrade3_01_01.asp
My vote(s):
Dell or Gateway or nothing: Dell
Dell or Gateway or other: Other (Custom built)
By the way, REMOVE SPACES from the pasted URLs.
Personally, I stay away from ALL proprietary computers in favor of custom made computers. I have many reasons for this, but will save it for a specific discussion on that particular topic.
(Andsince I didn't answer your question in the manner I'm sure you intended and don't have any [or much] first hand experience evaluating either Gateway or Dell products, I certainly don't expect you to accept this answer.)
Here's another interesting way of looking at the differences between the two: financial strength of the company - which is most likely to survive a very competitive industry?
Earnings per share:
Dell: .80 - up from .65 last year
Gateway: (.66) - down from (.18) last year
[ (##) = a negative ]
Look at the stock charts and other financial information.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=DELL&d=c&k=c1&a=v&p=s&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=gtw&d=c
Gateway stock has taken a real beating because of the lower earnings history, while Dell has actually increased about 30% over the last year.
(Dell has increased over the last year? What's your 401k done?)
Dell has outperformed gateway by about 60%:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=c&c=gtw&k=c1&t=1y&s=dell&a=v&p=s&l=on&z=m&q=l
REMOVE SPACES from the pasted URLs.
Botom line:
Dell - Making money.
Gateway - Losing money (big time).
Dell - much stronger, much less likely to be in a "cost-cutting" mode, much more likely to perform favorably in a support role.
Gateway: They better look for ways to cut costs or they're in big trouble. Do you want them cutting costs on your computers or support?
Bottom Bottom Line: Dell - Dell - Dell
Disclaimer: I am not a financial expert, and this financial analysis is my opinion only.
by swomack
by ann777
Dell computers are top notch and for $/part, they cannot be beat. Telephone service is always 24/7 and I've gotten very satisfactory response times when calling them. Quality is also very good and I've seen computers from most of the major manufacturers. The last laptop I've purchased for personal use was a Dell.
http://www.dell.com/downloads/us/corporate/casestudy/feb_28.pdf
by swomack
by el sombre
One of my clients is a small city and we have had extensive experience with both Gateway and Dell. While at times in the past I felt that it was a toss up to choose between them, we are currently ordering Dells exclusively. We have found them to be:
1. A very good value for the components
2. Well supported when things go wrong
3. Delivered when promised
by swomack
by rapidad
Definately DELL, think about this.
1. cost of parts pretty much equal
2. cost of assembly ditto
3. cost of online presence ditto
4. brick and mortar stores and the people that go with it. Outrageous
5. What is gateway skipping on to pay for this????????? quality and parts........
6. ever seen a 1u 8way xeon rackmount gateway? thought not.
by swomack
by otl
Gateway used to have a great product (8088 processors Upgradeable) worked great and lasted a long time (10+years and still running!) have heard complaints as quality is no longer there.
Dell quality seems to still be up there, complaints about OSrestrictions but not the computer.
Could always compare, buy one of each and have 2 power users run them for a month. See who complains! (no complaints = Dell less expensive) And which manufactor backs their claim to the best customer service.
by swomack
by greybeard770
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by inxale
You are pretty much right when you say 'which I doubt because I don't think there is that much difference from one box to the next '
With this philosophy we went with Dell four years ago on server and laptop. Workstation was Compaq because the price was better and a PC is a PC.
We have been ( I hate to tempt fate )lucky :) for the last three years with only a single maintenance visit for the Dell Latitudes.
The new Dell servers are gems.
by swomack
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