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So in a variety of threads- many of which I think most of us would like to have go away- a bunch of side conversations began. And all of those side conversations were more interesting than the thread origins.

I propose that we continue to enjoy lighthearted banter over here.

Besides- the other threads were getting annoying to read... way too long and stuff.

See you around the watercooler!

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by tig2

Pick up a bottle of lime juice and make sure you have garlic, onion and cilantro on hand. FABULOUS marinade! I let it sit overnight and then fry with red and yellow pepper and vidalia onion. Oh- add a light oil to that marinade- about a third of the lime juice used. So 1 C lime equalls 1/3 C oil.

Let me know how they turn out...

by jdclyde

vegetable? corn? olive? peanut?

What KIND of oil do you use for this? I have been using the olive for just about everything but stirfry, and peanut for that.

vegetable if I am doing a cake or something.

by wingedmonkey

Okay Tig,
Between you and JD, I am now obsessed with getting home and getting dinner cooking. Sad that I don't have any Venison available, but if I'm lucky the SafeWay will have a London Broil cheap.
The Vidalia onion nailed it. I love a good Vidalia, I can be happy chunking one up and eating it raw.

by j.lupo

We can chat about dogs, cats, hunting, camping, fishing, and all the other good stuff we were chatting about.

by jdclyde

that you would even think about hijacking threads! It is highly improper to hijack threads and head off in side discussions! X-(

I hope I NEVER see you doing something like this!
http://tinyurl.com/kzf7d

B-)

by tig2

The constant ressurection so that the happier conversation could continue. So we continue it here.

Incidentally, I don't bow hunt. 12 guage works for me. My partner is the better hunter- keeps us fed. Although I am hoping that this year he gets a deer. No joy on the deer hunt last year. Doesn't matter- his brother got one so we got meat. And the point is really to go out and freeze your tail off in the deer stand and watch the chickadees. I'm better with fish.

My Dad had five daughters. We're all a little strange...

by dmambo

There were a couple of really fun ones that I recall. One was a thread asking whether totally misc. topics were appropriate for TR. That one was hijacked and went off in all directions for about 300 posts. Another great one was jck's beer thread.

Good thing that the divorce thread was never ripped-off. That &%*@!!# takes too damn long to load.

Good times, gooood times.

by tig2

Nothing like a 17 mile training walk in front of you to force a re-prioritisation! If I survive it, I will post success on Sunday. I only have 13 miles to walk on Sunday. Course the 17 is Saturday.

Pass the ibuprophen!

Happy hour with my team tonight. We get together once a month to make sure everyone is doing okay with their fundraising, swap tips, exchange sock ideas, and generally get silly. Always fun!

I'm okay. I can't stand people that insist on not reading the black words on the white paper and jumping to erroneous conclusions. But I get over it.

by vanessaj

especially since I just posted a novella that even I probably wouldn't read. Sometimes you just get carried away. Of course, I have no pets, no children and a pretty above-average-to-normal husband, so I come up short often, on small talk. But I'm interested to learn about the rest of you. So, thanks for getting it started.

by jdclyde

did you get my reply?

did it help?

Small talk. No hobbies? No interests? Nothing in the news that was weird or odd? Nothing that ever makes you go AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!?

Of course, when you have some disorders like the rest of us, mindless ranting just comes easy! :D

by hal 9000

That they where going to sit in front of the TV and watch the World Cup & Tennis.

If it was do you prefer the tennis players to be on Grass or Straight when you watch them? :D

Col ]:)

by wingedmonkey

We have turtles, Rico-Squirt, Shrekinator and Scarletina aka Fatty aka The Evil One.
Shrek was always laid back, but then he got a cold and wouldn't eat for several weeks. Well $180.00 dollars and an antibiotic shot every three days for three weeks in his little turtle hiney and he is back to form.
He is even fighting off Fatty for food now, and she is twice his size.

by j.lupo

so we could continue our discussions of interest. Now how to keep the "trolls" out. :)

As for me, my dogs, my mom, my studies, my friends are all I have time for right now. Once my studies are "done", I plan on doing other things. I gots me a list.

No SO or other attachment here.

by jdclyde

that is one outdoor activity that I never "got". I get no joy from it and have no interest in it.

That being said, my boys for some odd reason LOVE to go out fishing. So we go out fishing. They go because they love to fish, I go because I love to watch them do something they love. We all get something out of it.

I explained it to Thing One yesterday, that it is like me going to watch their soccer games. I would never miss a soccer game, even though I am not the one out there playing. I get the enjoyment watching.

So now I find myself having to learn HOW to fish, and even getting a small fishing boat.

The bows are a cheaper thing to do during the day than shoot the shotguns. cheaper "reloads". :D They each have a 20 gage that they will use for rifle season. The plan is to get them each a 30-30 for their 16th birthdays. (two years) Of course I will HAVE to get myself something too...... ;\

The money this year will be getting them good outdoors cloths.

Dad took me and my bro out shooting his ruger mark II from an early age, and I was quite proficient with it by the age of 8. Will start with the 22's this year with my boys. We have done pellet gun league up until now.

by tig2

That is the whole idea- get off the BS threads and just BS.

Life is good!

by j.lupo

I won't go in the other direction with your choice. But I use EVOO for just about all my cooking. Just seems to make sense and it does taste good. I am learning to make my own salad dressings now with it.

by tig2

You can eat them like an apple but they carmelise SO well!

Vidalias are the greatest onion for ANY savoury dish!!! Walla Wallas are good for savoury-sweet dishes- LOVE them for a good meatloaf and on a burger. Also with a good Filet Mignon- grilled and brushed with tasy oil. Olive is good and so is Sesame.

Oh- sautee in almond or sesame oil and use them in carrot cake. WONDERFUL!!!

by j.lupo

I am reading this in the am and now I am getting hungry. I am going to do something with chicken tonight, guess I have to pick up some Vidalias, though I have a dressing made from them so I might use that as the marindade.

by vanessaj

I just got this and it's the first thing in the morning!!! I have to wait all day! Oh, the humanity!

by tig2

You may be stressing it too much. Try a heat pack- see it that doesn't take the pain down some.

Ibuprophen may help- managing the pain is better than trying to kill pain already there.

I wish I knew how to help. I know how hard this is- the pain that goes with healing just makes no sense- you're healing! You shouldn't still be in pain!

Sending good thoughts your way!!! Couple of prayers, but eeewwwww!

Edited for the typos I can't seem to resist...

by j.lupo

are bound to be dogs. My little boy (Bane) decided that the little itsy bitsy baby birdies that didn't have feathers and fell from their nests in the nasty storms would make a good snack. YUCK! Now I may have to take him to the vet if he doesn't start feeling better. He seemed alright this morning, but I have to watch him carefully. With that bird flu and everything. :(

by j.lupo

go out and enjoy nature. Get back to our roots and bring home the food. ;) Right?

I can't say I like hunting. I am an animal lover - all animals, so hunting is hard. I will go with others and keep the camp though. Also, I will fish with spear or fishing rod. But someone else has to clean and gut the fish. Then I will cook it. I like the open campfire cooking best.

by dmambo

(There's a weird title!!)

Ya know, there some animals, esp deer, that need to be thinned out for the rest to thrive. I do not hunt, but when you see how adaptable deer are to human population centers, either we need to stop spreading out or we need to manage the deer herd. The alternative is for them to die off by winter starvation or under the bumpers of cars.

I live in a small town, and see deer regularly by the road. If there were no hunting season, they also would do too much damage to the woods through over browsing. We've nearly eliminated their natural predators.

I do think that it would be good to set a size limit. Maybe prohibit taking spike horns. That would allow more to reach full maturity.

by tig2

We are restricted by the DNR every year as to what we are allowed to hunt. I don't think that spikes are ever legal. In the last couple of years, they are encouraging us to hunt "antlerless" as the herd has been under hunted and they want to reduce the breeding population.

Thank you for pointing out the herd management aspect of hunting. Any ethical hunter plays by the rules, only hunts legal game, only hunts land they own or are invited to. This year, I am only hunting antlerless, my partner has a buck tag. That's what we will hunt. We fill the tag, we leave the woods. And deers that would otherwise either die of starvation or be hit by cars will become a food source.

by jdclyde

people do forget that nature is violent. When any animal other than human "takes" a deer, it is NOT a pretty thing to see.

You can hunt AND care for nature. Care for the land and the animals we share it with.

Because we have a tendency to get rid of the preditors, other animals that used to NATURALLY be held in check do over populate. Thinning of the herds is natural and healthy. NOTHING cruel about it, unless you are an id10t out shooting anything and everything you see.

I am raising my boys to be conservationists first, outdoorsmen second, hunters third. The all do go together.

Although for how good a hunter I am, I am more likely to get a deer by driving back and fourth real fast on the highway than I am walking around the woods with a rifle. :D

To limit numbers, they do doe hunts. With bovine TB a big problem, they want the heards smaller than ever. This keeps the deer from catching it from the moos and spreading it.

by vanessaj

paragraph, it makes me recall all those "time to thin the herd" stories about people who REALLY stupid stuff. Have you ever read any of those? Seems right up your alley - you have such a rare sense of humor. I can find one for you if you like, but don't have any immediately on hand. I remember one story about some guy who hooked jet rockets onto his pontiac or something like that...

If you know of one, please, by all means, send the link.

by j.lupo

I personally thing herd control can be done without hunting. Though I also wonder when we will consider "herd control" of the human population. Maybe we need to start thinking about their territory too. Yes we need space, so do we kill them to take it? That seems like our history talking. Wars have been fought of such things.

I am not saying people shouldn't hunt if that is what they like and they do it responsibly. All I am saying, is it isn't for me. I will go with friends and care for the camp. I just can't, myself, kill. Just me.

by gadgetgirl

I ordered one of those from him about a year ago, and I'm still waiting.....

Right now, I could use it. Office currently 91F, no aircon, humidity 86%, no [i] air [/i], and we're supposed to start packing the office up for a re-hash this afternoon....

Just look for the little grease spot on the carpet, guys....I've melted.

So, Col, [b] where my cooler??? [/b]

]:)

GG

Edited: Brain fry

by jdclyde

It is currently a nice 68F in my office, and actually a bit of a nip! Does make it nice when people (female) have to come in and see me.... B-)

I am in an out of the way section, and there are only three offices on our unit. One likes it about 85F all year long (at least) so in the winter I close MY vents so all the heat goes to his office, and the summer I close HIS vents so all the cool air comes into my office. :D

Might have to turn my fan on in a bit.... :p

I COULD NOT work in 91F. Get killer headaches in heat like that, so you really DO get my sympothy! Poor baby. Hope they get you squared away soon!

:x

by Member 25348569

Addressed to gg! No way would I have called [b]you[/b] "babe" or left you a lovey icon with what we all know!

---------GG-------------

Weather change coming through. Rain, cool breeze and temperatures barely up to 20C in your neck of the woods by Saturday.

The loocam shows how badly you're all sweating...

:D :x

---------END GG-----------

Phew! I think I got away with it...

by dmambo

We all know of his tendencies, but you??

And to install a camera in his WC - shocked! :0

If you had posted this to GG, I'd understand. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

by gadgetgirl

I'll actually go out and stand in the rain.

I am sooooooooo hot.

Looks as if I'll be bringing a change of clothes in tomorrow, if it's going to be like this. Not looking forward to turfing out filing systems in this heat, and then having to work afterwards in the same gear!

BTW Neil, have you noticed something? For the first time in six years, I'M NOT WEARING TROUSERS.

It's too flamin' 'ot!!!

:p

GG

by dmambo

Perhaps you are experiencing a taste of H-E-upside down 7-upside down 7!!!! Repent impure one!!!!

(Not really, I mean how could it be heaven without you there??? ;) )

by wingedmonkey

Hey Tig,
I was born and raised in Minnesota,
Lived most of my time around the Twin Cities but my Mom and sisters are up in the Brainerd, Mille Lacs lake area now.
I have to love the land of a thousand lakes. Canoeing down the St. Croix, camping up in the Boundry waters, catching Northerns out of Lake Superior, diving in the water filled mining pits.
I always wanted to have a Wedding Ceremony in the Viking Inn up there is Crosby. In proer attire of course.

by tig2

Poor GG!

I am so glad I am not in your office!

Today is not so bad but Sa we are supposed to get 90+ (F) and T-storms. AND I have to walk 17 miles. *sigh*

Poor Tigger!

by vanessaj

killing the deer by driving...you're as likely to kill yourself as well. Living in West Virginia taught me that - I have a few friends that were killed that way. Be careful there, jd.

(And yes, I got your email and it's great, but my profile is still not updating. I'm working on it and will let you know when victory is achieved. Thanks so much.)

by jdclyde

to be a legal take.

There are also GREAT charities where MANY hunters donate deer and the meat goes to help families in need. You get someone with two permits, and he/she fills them both, many times that second one will go to such a charity.

by vanessaj

I forgot what they were called. I'll check out the link right away. Thanks again Tig! How's that print button working now, anyway? Did you get it back in either IE or FFox?

*Hijack alert*

by tig2

Everyone hunts but not everyone gets a deer. Last year my partner just couldn't take any more time than the opening weekend and didn't see any deer that weekend. But his brother did and shared.

If we both fill our tags, the meat gets shared around the whole family. When we have excess, it goes to the Food Shelf.

by vanessaj

Not for nothing...but doesn't the body actually start to cook at those tempratures? That can NOT be good for you! Sounds like you really DO need one of Col's "collers".

by tig2

It's ALL hijack. This is a good thing!

The "Print" button still doesn't appear in IE which is fine by me. I won't use IE if I can avoid it.

Firefox only gave me one issue- I had to clear cache and cookies when the TR site went keflooey over the weekend. The only downside was that I had to use IE to get into a thread and get the fix.

Hopefully that won't happen again but ...

Have a good holiday?

by jdclyde

Just got off the phone with thing one, and he wants to have dinner ready when I get home so we will have time to get in a round of golf!

I made extra chicken last night (we made chicken wraps) so that the meat would be good to go for dinner tonight.

Rice, chicken, cheese, broccoli. mmmmmmmm. no mix, no powder, just a block of cheese!

This will be his biggest dinner yet, and he will be flying solo. He is real excited! :D

by vanessaj

which I don't think I have ever had in my life together (can anyone say workaholic?) to do what I wanted. Since I have been playing "catch up" because I have been behind on stuff for the better part of a year now, I decided to take the time to actually catch up. I did. It was great.

How was your walk this past weekend? I'm thrilled to see that you survived it (them?) and hope you aren't in much pain...it sounds gruelling.

...and I am TOTALLY JEALOUS that you all get to hunt and fish!!! I SO want to be a part of that lifestyle. I love the outdoors and learned how to hunt, fish and catch crawdads in the creek when I was a little girl, but now...nothing. I don't even get to make time for camping. My husband works outdoors and just wants to be inside when he's off, and I stay so busy with so many other projects (church and community)(and starting a new business) that I never really get to spend time doing fun stuff. That, and most of my girlfriends have moved away - at least the ones who might do outdoorsey stuff with me.

Would it be too presumptuous to think that we should all get together and do a camping/fishing/hiking/hunting trip together? I would love to cast a line or learn to shoot a bow. What fun! I still have my hunting knife - it is actually for skinning, I've been told, but I've never used it. I would love to bring it along. Stupid idea?

Congratulations on the FFox. Did you get any extensions/add-ons? I love the smooth scroll and the color tabbing.

by vanessaj

just cruel. I am actually finally making myself breakfast right now. I am putting some hot water in a cup of that instant oatmeal powder that comes in little packets. Stirring it around now. Doesn't smell like chicken and I don't have anyone cooking for me. I'm glad I'm not in the type of tempuratures that GG is in, but other than that - I am sufficiently miserable right now staring at this cup of muck.

Thanks a lot. I will repay...........

by j.lupo

I don't get that or lunch. I only get dinner if I am lucky to sneak out of my jail cube long enough and nobody notices.

Now I am really hungry. :(

by j.lupo

I think you are talking about. People who take themselves out of the gene pool. There is a website devoted to it. I can't remember the web address now. Probably could google for it though.

They are always updating the stories. I get a kick out of it. There is one I remember, but I couldn't type it and do it justice, plus it is on the "dirty" side.

by dmambo

I don't hunt, but I understand the need for humans to control the herd size of some animals. As others have pointed out, this does not mean open season for poachers. They're scum.

I think hunting needs to be highly regulated and that the proceeds for licenses should pay for the admin costs of wildlife management. And I support efforts to re-introduce species into territories where they've been eliminated. But now we're getting into the politics of it. :)

I also think that the "humane" methods of control can be a little far-fetched. I once heard a suggestion of controlling deer population by putting birth control drugs in salt licks so they wouldn't be subjected to the cruelty of hunters. Seems silly. As JD pointed out, nature can be cruel.

Just my own opinions.

by wingedmonkey

Sometimes when I am in a hurry to get the chicken grilled, I'll mariante it in a bottle of Italian Dressing. Quick, easy and tastes great.

Now granted, some folk get really, really bad gas from chicken marianted in Italian Dressing. Some don't. Don't know until they give it a try.

by jdclyde

that GG was a hottie...... :x

time to work topless! Woo Woo! (well, you already have your pants off.....)

by jdclyde

is probably a side result of all the STUPID crap that has been taking TR down for the last week.

As for getting deer via driving, I think I will weld some spears to the front of my truck! :D

Was the email clear enough?

by onbliss

Does England get that hot? Wow. The mental picture I have of England is a country that is always pleasant in the lower to mid twenties (degree celsius).

by Member 25348569

It's not that often and usually for a week, tops, and then ends with a thunderstorm or two. 2003 was the year it made it over 100 for the first time since the invention of the thermometer but that year, tens of thousands died in the heatwave in France and Germany and we were just on the periphery.

Until very recently - two or three years - commuter trains, the tube, buses, etc had no aircon and an awful lot of them still don't so, at least in London, we all get very sweaty and grumpy when it's 90F. Quite a few offices and nearly all houses houses don't have aircon either.

This present hot spell is scheduled to come to an end tomorrow with temps of 72F at the weekend so gadget can cool down.

by onbliss

It is etched in my (and in several folks') mind. Back home, when the day suddenly became cooler for a few hours because of a passing clouds, breeze or rain; we would say "It is like London". Even though, we had never set foot in England. That's [b]Stereotypism?[/b].

I thought you guys used Celsius too; and oddly surprised that you two have been using "F"s :-)

BTW, what is the story behind the usage of the word "London" to refer to the bathroom/toilet/loo/potty or whatever? I am not sure if it was an usage just in the Indian English, or if it was used in England as well.

by sleepin'dawg

the temperature was in the mid to high eighties and there had been a drought that summer. I arrived in September of that year. Like onbliss, I wasn't aware that England could get that hot but with the trend to global warming, I think you're going to have to start thinking more of air conditioning. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

The only time I can tolerate heat in excess of 21C or 72F is if I'm indry climate like Arizona or Nevada and there is a breeze, otherwise I'm indoors in the air conditioning. My home is air conditioned, my car is air conditioned, even my boat is air conditioned. The Brits can maintain their stiff upper lips about air conditioning but I keep thinking of that Noel Coward song about Mad Dogs and Englishmen going out in the mid day sun. With so many fair skinned people it wouldn't surprise me to find there has been a marked increase in the incidences of skin cancer in the UK.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by vanessaj

was perfect. And so are you. You are as helpful as can be, and addressed exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for your extra advice - well said. I appreciate it. I'm not sure, however, that my profile updating issue is connected to the recent technical melee in TR. It has been giving me the same problem since I originally set it up. I have forwarded it on to...someone...I forget who right now, I think Doug somebody and am waiting to see if he can help me out. I'll let you know - actually you'll be able to see an avatar instead of that awful mysterious silhouette that looks like some kind of national security, man-in-black kind of thing on there now.

Thank you for ALL your help!

by vanessaj

Was that a straight answer? I don't remember that from you in the few months that I have been on here. Wow! I'm shocked! Where's the humor? Did someone out there hijack Dmambo's tag name and avatar? Is that possible? Did someone call TR and report this? Dmambo, are you alright? or have you been eating too much licorice?

by jdclyde

Did I forget to mention I brought two of the VERY juicy chicken breasts to work for my lunch? People are beotching at me because it smelled too good.

They will hate it even more tomorrow the leftovers I will bring in.

I intentionally cook with lunch the next day in mind.

Yeah, I start the day with a packet of oatmeal everyday. I am never hungry when I first wake up, but an hour drive later and I can bring myself to eat. I have a drawer of my desk FULL of the different flavors, and find that many are actually GOOD! I strongly recommend the "rasin, date, & walnut", by Quaker.

Did I mention I will have dinner waiting for me when I get home? ]:)

by vanessaj

or in the words of the three stooges, "Why, I otta..."!

How can you be so heartless? I am leaving to grab a bite from the local fast food joint and have about 15 minutes to do so. Well, I hope you eat your chicken in peace. Eat and remember the suffering in the world...

by onbliss

...to jump into this discussion for sometime. But, finally I gave up and here I am. Because, I always wanted to have a discussion on this subject, but never cared/bothered much about this. But since, you bunch of guys seem to be so nice :-), probably you would'nt mind me poking nose....

(that was a lengthy unnecessary prologue)

Yes nature is violent. No doubt. Animals kill animals. Humans are animals, and nothing unnatural in humans killing animals. Fine, so far. One thing that bothers me is the "feeling" a person gets during hunting.

As I have never hunted (atleast in my adult life), I do not understand all the emotions/feelings that run through a person. But would I be wrong in assuming that a sense of satisfaction, pleasure or thrill is present? I know the hunted animal is cooked and eaten. It is one thing to kill animals for food, but it is another thing to derive a secondary (primary for some?) "feeling" out of it.

disclaimers:
As a kid, I have chased and hunted garden lizards, pelted stones at them to kill, did horrific stuff to dragon flies (made a live helicopter), worms and other smaller animals.

As an adult, I kill bugs/roaches (actually I shuffle them away, but my wife prefers to kill them), rats etcetra because they come into my way of life. I would'nt seek out to kill them.

by dmambo

Humor? I'll bet that you're the only one around here that thinks I'm humorous. Most others probably think that I'm just your average, run-of -the-mill rambling idiot.

Although, possibly some feel that I'm an above-average idiot! :D

by j.lupo

I got back from a meeting and there was a nice hot panini on my desk that had a note that said, "Eat something already"

I must look like I am fading away from working so much.

by sleepin'dawg

start down at the floor and run all the way up(in GG's case that isn't too far) until they make a perfect ass of themselves. I'm thinking of selling prints : $15ea or 2 for $25. All proceeds to go to charity or whatever. These shots are all in very good taste and I'm sure GG could be persuaded to sign them for a nominal fee. ;)

In the mean time, pass the Pepto-bismal. I've got this image of Jd topless and in the loo, locked in my mind. There are some things that should never be seen and that's one of them. :p

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by Member 25348569

That's a new one for me - "London" - which I think may be local for you.

As for C and F, I'm bilingual being (a) Old and (b) a scientist but most Brits are, too.

Strangely, though, we use C for cold temperatures - "hey it's minus 2" - and F for hot - "it's going to be over 80 today".

:D

Data provided free of charge by NITS (tm), your source of [b]reliable[/b] cross-cultural information. Est. 2005.

by vanessaj

Oh, the agony. Will it ever end?! I love panini's...and there's a little Italian place not far from my house that makes them like they are from out of this world! New York HAS to be the best place, besides Italy itself, to get good Italian.

So enjoy, j. We don't want you wasting away so that you can't type on your keyboard. Afterall, if you can't post, what good are ya?

by dmambo

Why do we have so many folks who refuse to specify a location in their profiles? There are many, me included, that obfuscate their locations, but at least they give an idea; like Dawg in Whereever, PQ, or JD in Land of Confusion, MI.

Your home means a lot in these misc threads. It gives others insight on your perspective. I like knowing whether an American peer is a southerner, a westerner, a salt of the earth midwesterner. It helps me to know if a Canuck is a Maritimer, a frog, or a crazed prairie dweller. And you others from exotic places like Newcastle, well does that make you Northumberlanders? I'm curious.

Even though I'm not the Supreme Ruler of All Earth, like I should be, I demand, nay, I humbly beseech you, specify your location.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

by vanessaj

I don't know about everyone else, but my profile won't update! Been trying for a couple of months. Someone's working on it, I believe, or maybe it's something to do with the other TR troubles they've been having, I don't know. I can't change anything at all, and that default avatar sucks big time!!! In case you're wondering, I'm in NY.

by sleepin'dawg

very brave girl. That is well above the call of honour and duty, since it is a very well known fact that Mambo is also known as, [b][i]"The Most Notorious Gas Passer of New England."[/i][/b] He also does strange things with small animals and can often be found frequenting XXX rated movies in Montreal wearing nothing but a fedora(you gotta admire the linux reference here) and an old trench coat.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by Member 25348569

we don't live in countries that have states that are in TR's list (well, [b]we[/b] don't have states at all) so WE CAN'T BLOODY WELL ENTER ANYTHING!

It makes me so MAD!!!!

I would happily enter London as my location but, as it's just a city (albeit one of the world GREAT capital cities), TR's pathetic Americocentric profiles won't let me put it in because I DON'T LIVE IN A BLOODY STATE BECAUSE WE'RE UNITARY AND NOT BLOODY WELL FEDERAL!

Sorry, I do live in a state of extreme frustration.

Either that or I'm missing something...

:D

Sorry Newcastle exotic? HA HA HA HA!

by maecuff

listed. But I took it off.

Maybe you should quit being so nosy. Besides, I have to protest on Neil's behalf. (Even if he is being a whiny ass t*tty baby about the whole thing).

by hal 9000

Neil is nothing but a [b]Winging POM![/b] ;\

If they can't find something to complain about they make up something now every one just for Neil [b]With a WT & a WP I'm Willy the Winging POM![/b] :p

Col ]:)

by vanessaj

I actually do a search to find your username so I don't miss your posts! I practically smother myself to death and pee in my pants, trying not to laugh out loud because I'm reading them, rather than helping the boring clients that don't know how to move their taskbar back to the bottom of the screen. You're the best!

So I just HAD to "bust your chops", as they say in NY, when you posted a straight, full-on, no-nonsense post as this one. But please, don't stop using that intelligence and wit to bust everyone else's chops! Or soon, I won't have to bring any more changes of underwear to work anymore. Boring.

by j.lupo

I am useless. ;)

I didn't know you were in NY. I currently work in DE, but live in Southern NJ. I was born in Brooklyn though. NY definitely has great restaurants for just about any food. Although, little Italy in Philadelphia is worth going to also.

by jdclyde

How do you feel when your walking in the woods and see a deer up close?

What if you get REAL close?

Hunting and gathering is as basic as humans get. Is it really wrong to get a feeling of satisfaction from taking that animal?

I know, the world has sterilized us from getting our own hands dirty, but do you know how you get your big macs? Someone else killed and slaughtered that cow FOR you. A 22 cal round in the head. They USED to use a sledgehammer. In michigan there used to be a lot of slaugher houses and meat packing plants.

It is not for most people a sick fasination with blood and gore, but a very basic and pure feeling. A clean kill. It takes skill and if approached properly, is a wholesome way for a family to spend their time together.

There is a saying, "hunt WITH your kids, not FOR them". If your doing something like this with your kids, you are spending more quality time than many of your average econuts and vegitarians do, too busy with their little yuppie lives.

Safety is also stressed.

While this is not true of everyone, it IS the rule, not the exception. I think I am talking in circles here, and not sure if I am really saying this well.

I love my boys. I love spending time in the woods. Thus, I love spending time with my boys in the woods. Any kill that I might take is sure to be a lot less violent than any kill they coyottes will do, or the wolves, and a lot more humain than having the animal starve to death because the land can't sustain the size of the herd.

As I said, I have yet to fire on a deer (though I wanted to on a dear) and I have been hunting every year for two decades now. Every year was a great year out hunting.

People that don't mind shoving a metal barb through the skull of a fish but are against hunting really confuse me. The immitation vegitarians that eat fish and eggs are to be dismissed and ridiculed.

by jdclyde

we all know it takes a very special brand of id10t to be the one known as Mambo! :D Not your average, everyday, run-of-the-mill grade idiot, but "Grade A".

by sleepin'dawg

I still "feel" in Fahrenheit even though we've been using Celsius for years. They'll say on the radio the temperature is 18 degrees and I will have to stop and think whether or not I require a jacket or not.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by onbliss

Well I should have added another disclaimer to my above post, but I wanted the focus to remain on the "feeling" or "sensation" part of the hunting. But here goes the disclaimer:

My family members (extended ones) are Lacto-Vegetarians. My dad was one of the first Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarians in his family. And my family is l-o-vegetarian too. Hyphenated words might anger some, but I just did wanted to get things out for the records.

This should address your questions about Mac and getting dirty.

So, what is the "basic and pure" feeling? And why is hunting considered as a sport?

I wanted to have this conversation with a hunter, but was little apprehensive. I did not want to ruffle any feathers (which i must have done now). Hope you don't mind this conversation.

ps: I have read the novel "Toxin" where Cook gets little graphic about the slaughter house details.

by vanessaj

I may be peer mailing you for a good place to stop! Thanks for the tip. See...you ARE good for something other than posting! HA!

by onbliss

Let me point out that I agree with you when you say differences in culture just mean they are different. Ofcourse there are some universal things that transcends cultures, but culture is not point of this discussion.

My angle is not the cultural angle. I agree about your analysis of how humans hunted and killed [b]to stay alive[/b] (your exact words). As civilizations progressed and humans started settling down, the dependence on hunting animals reduced to varying degrees. Kings and elites had better means and luxury to hunt than the common man. They took it as a sport. This is more or less universal. Hence, this discussion is not about my culture being better or worse than any other culture. That was never my intention. Infact, if I am not mistaken there are more meat eaters from the place where I come from than vegetarians.

I can understand the need for us to be with the nature, desire peace and sometimes solitude. But over the centuries, as we became just more and more civilized, we have discontinued things that do not seem "nice". So is this something to be discontinued?

I sometimes just wonder about these things, but do not get too wound up about people hunting and killing. And neither will I just force or preach my view, I might just discuss.

Infact this is the first discussion I have ever had so far in my life about hunting and killing of animals.

I have seen a car hitting a deer, and watched the deer do a almost triple-somersault in the air. Luckily the car driver was fine, I did see the bumper flying away too.

Well you can not blame me, because I already accepted blame for the "other" thread;

Edited: I had to edit formatting as well
and I accept just one blame a month. :-)

by hal 9000

I told you that they come straight from Germany and gave you the place to order it from. :p

Don't blame me if you forgot to order one with the 50 year subscription for refills it's not my fault that you're either [b]LAZY or FORGETFUL[/b] :^0

Do I have to do everything for you? :)

Besides why are you blaming me when you know very well that [b]Neil[/b] promised to organise one for you? ;\

Col ]:)

by gsaravin9

good to see you are enjoying yourself.Don't take the shit seriously at tech republic especially discussion threads.Those that do are KRAZY!

by hal 9000

Over here in AU my uncle when he was alive owned a sheep property which I was regularly sent to over the Christmas Holidays to help out.

We used to use ex military 303's to shoot roos as they where in plague proportions at night the odd Dingo [i]Wild Dog[/i]well sort of anyway and Pigs which where vicious. As he only had a small property it was only several thousand acres we used various means to shoot depending on where we had to go we would take horse for the close stuff and 4 wheel drives for the more distant stuff when we went out. Then there where the [b]ID10T's[/b] that used to come out and ask for permission to shot on the property it was about 4 hours driving over dirt roads from the nearest small town so we where fairly isolated. But we got our fair share of [b]Sport Shooters[/b] visit the place and some left a lot to be desired.

They tended to be the Yuppie type who came out and where far more interested in drinking than shooting so they more often than not shot themselves. We tended to avoid the areas that they where in and kept the sheep away as well. The one that really springs to mind here was a [b]Total Fool[/b] who crawled under a fence with a double barrelled 20 Gauge Shotgun then grabbed it by the barrel and pulled it through after him. Naturally it wasn't broken and the safety wasn't on so when the triggers got caught on something it naturally discharged and took his head off as well as most of his chest that was in the way. Hearing a shot at 4.00 AM tended to raise the [b]Alarm Bells[/b] so we went out looking to make sure that everyone was OK which this guy certainly wasn't. It took 2 hours to find him and even then if the sun had not have been coming up I don;t think we would have found him so fast then about 45 minutes to get back to the house to raise the alarm and then about 8 hours for the Police and associated people to show up to take photos and remove the body. Naturally they came to the homestead and had to be directed to the site, I on the other hand was left at the accident site to make sure that nothing disturbed the scene. After a day of the body lying in 45 + degree Heat it was more than a bit off putting to say the least. Personally the Police like me and everyone there thought that this guy had got what he deserved by not following the most basic safety steps. But that was one case where I had to go out and find a body.

Another one was funny though at the time it wasn't much of a laugh but now I can't help but laugh at it. there where a bunch of so called [b]Sporting Shooters[/b] who asked permission to shot on the property as they had come out previously they told us exactly where they wanted to go and it didn't matter that the pigs had moved in there in the interim they where quite happy to go there and shoot. Well a few days latter one bright shinning new 4 Wheel Drive came tearing to the house and workers quarters asking for help apparently a pig had attacked this bunch of shooters and only having 12 gauge's it only antagonised the pig all the more. One fellow who needed the help had jumped up a tree to get away from the pig which would have been OK if he hadn't of dropped the 12 gauge which discharged when it hit the ground taking his foot clean off. When we got there the pig was circling the tree waiting for it's meal So I grabbed a 303 and shot it then we applied first aid and called in the Flying Doctor naturally we had to transport this guy back to the airstrip so it was slow going and we did get back before the Flying Doctor arrived but he was far less than healthy by that time that the doctor arrived. Then after they had gone I was given the job of going out and reclaiming the mess and bringing it back to the house. I took one of the farm hands with me as it involved driving back a car well a 4 wheel drive anyway so we packed up the camping gear and shoved everything back into the 4WD and took it back to the house and parked it beside the other 4WD that the person who raised the alarm had driven in.

Latter I was told that those 2 vehicles stayed put for about 10 months before someone turned up to claim them and even then they sent out a car carrier to pick them up and they had insisted that we remove the 12 gauge before the cars where taken. So my uncle scored 1 very expensive and useless 12 Gauge and several hundred rounds of ammo out of that deal. Out there 12 Gauge's where about as useful as 4 flat tires. We tended to use 303's and 22's most of the time the 303's where for culling the Roos and pigs and the 22's where for putting down sheep.

The last time I was out there was at the end of a major drought and we where spending the day shooting sheep and burring them in a big hole that had been dug, then we would go home and reload all the spent cartridges so we could do it all again the next day. Not really much fun but it had to be done as we where trying to keep the [b]Core Breeding Stock[/b] alive. Anyway after about 3 weeks of doing this on a daily basis it rained overnight and the few animals which we where hand feeding and watering froze during the rain mostly before we could get them under cover and dry.

It's certainly not much fun doing things like that but they have to be done if only to stop the suffering of the animals. It takes a certain kind of person to work the land as it's hard and unforgiving work. Thankfully I'm not one of those people but I can help out when required.

About 25 years latter I found myself on the border doing some service work with people who owned a sheep property and ran a business in town. I was fixing their computers and on the last day I was there I was asked would I help move some sheep from the lower paddock to one of the upper ons. The owner had two newly arrived [b]Exchange Students[/b] from somewhere in Europe so he really needed a hand. I agreed to help him and he took a 303 with him and as we where walking to the farm Ute I was asked did I want a rifle I just said not really do I need one? He said something about pigs being present so I immediately asked for a rifle and suggested that the exchange students carried one each which they objected to as Pigs are nice friendly things they had only seen them in farms and not the wild ones that we have here. :D

Well it went smoothly and there where the remains of several lambs that had been killed by pigs but no real sings of any pigs otherwise so we cleared the paddock and saw a gill net in the stream on the other side of the fence in a National Park so we took a note of it's position to report this to the National Park Rangers and moved on. It was a fairly small paddock only about 50 acres or so, so we got the sheep rounded up fairly quickly only took about 6 hours and drove them to the gate to move them into a different paddock. Just as the owner opened the gate a big old bore charged him as he had his hands full he couldn't do anything, the exchange students stood there shocked and me at the back of it all unslung the 303 and dropped the pig. Naturally the sheep scattered with the sound of the rifle discharging so we had to round them all up again and drive them through a different gate as they refused to go through the gate where the dead pig was.

On that occasion the only thing I felt was [b]Fear[/b] as the pig would have done serious damage if not killing the owner and taken out several of the sheep as well. From my limited experience of using firearms I don't derive any pleasure from shooting things I only do what is required at the time. On that occasion I don't know who was more scared the owner who was in for at best a serious injury or the Exchange Students who had never seen a wild pig before, I on the other hand had plenty of sheep between me and the pig so I was safe but I didn't want to stand and watch someone get hurt either. What I found difficult is using a strange rifle for the first time while there was someone standing within the firing range of the rifle but it was either that or stand back and watch someone get hurt. Thankfully the rifle was sighted correctly as most of the farm rifles just get thrown around and only used when necessary so the sights are anything but accurate. but I got in a fluke shot 1 round 1 dead pig straight through the head the caucus skidded to a halt just before hitting the farm owner. I then bent over picked up the spent cartridge and started to round up the sheep again.

After working on my Uncles farm I earned a healthy dislike for sheep which lingers to this day. The [b]Sporting Shooters[/b] come a close second though as they have no idea of firearm safety.

Col

by hal 9000

If you look up the [b]Darwin Awards[/b] you'll find what you are looking for.

These awards are for those who do their level best to stop pollution of the [b]Gene Pool[/b] by killing themselves in the most outrageous ways. :D

Col ]:)