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by tig2

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There are now two Tigger Two's. Confusing to say the least.

Yes, I know. I have posted this before. But having ended the "Self Trained" thread with this information I felt it was only reasonable to bring this message to the masses- most of whom are BORED with the "Self Trained" thread.

The "member" who started that thread has obviously decided that (s)he would rather be me than him/herself. Considering that the point of that post was that a person with a CS degree is somehow better than someone without one, I think this is rather strange. I don't have a degree. Why would that person want to be me? My facility with the English language?

If Spuddy_M thought that stealing my name would send me on a one way trip on the bitter bus, I have news for him. Rather than ride the bitter bus, I am laying the issue before my peers.

There is only ONE real, live, genuine TiggerTwo- ME. Don't be fooled by imitations. Although I doubt any of you would be- The difference between my (obviously- based on his/her need to be me!) superior mind and Spuddy's are immediately apparent. I can form a correct sentence! I am also capable of replying in well thought-out ideas as opposed to the flaming that erupted in the other thread.

Okay- I called Spuddy a troll. I also compared his paper training (degree) with paper training (puppy). So I'm a bad person... :)

Darn- thought it would take longer to get over it...

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by dr dij

did you figure how it was Spuddy_M?

Spock - SHOOT BOTH OF US!
(quote from Captn Kirk when wrestling his duplicate:)

by tig2

I obviously set the idiot filter to "high" and scanned the membership.

There is only ONE TiggerTwo!

Wait- that somehow doesn't sound right...

by jdclyde

[i]"member". hee hee hee!~[/i]

Ok, so we will have to see just what FAKE-Tigger Two has in mind. It can't be much, because this really shows a total lack of originality and thought, much like the rest of his posts.

Maybe he is getting ready for that sex change operation, and wanted to start seeing how it feels to be a woman? :0

by tig2

Do you really think that it is his goal to become a one breasted cancer survivor??? Harsh way to go trannie!

by old guy

than one person could have the exact name. Remember, Stargazzer had to add a z in her name because there was already one with just the one z. Oh, wait, you don't have a space between your name. That and you're still the only Ti double gaa errrTwo. :)

Edited to add: you are correct it would be easy to spott the imitation. An imitation may be a high form of flattery but it is never exactly as good!

by onbliss

...that many of us will detect such acts. Though it is flattering to see someone take your name, I bet it is very annoying to you, to say the least.

I was wondering one thing though. In answering to OldGuy, you said the following: "They quoted spuddy_m exactly from post in the body but added the title" Reference: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-11181-0.html?forumID=6&threadID=195828&messageID=2035001

But the original post does not have anything of that nature. It could be because possible that the post was edited on 6/14/2006 (that is today). Also there seems to be a disclaimer now. I do not know if the content has been itself changed :-(

Little confusing. Maybe editing is not that of a nice feature.

by tig2

All TR did in the Soapbox was add a title to the original post. I noticed at around 6:00 this morning (CDT) Spuddy had added the disclaimer. I no longer have the Soapbox email from TR so can't compare with what is currently the beginning of the Self Trained thread.

I CAN tell you that initially, there was a line in there that said something to the effect that a degreed "professional" in comparison to a non-degreed IT person should be given primary consideraton when looking for a job. That particular point became the basis for the lion's share of the discussion.

Pretty sad that after 250 odd responses, he found it necessary to materially alter his original statements.

by old guy

in no way take up for spuddy_m from his initial post on the first day nor the fact that he changed it today. Throughout that discussion he showed his totally inferiorority.

I just took issue, albeit slight, with the added title in the TR email.

by old guy

I was taking issue with a misleading title in the email that TR sent out that stated, "You shouldn't hire self-taught IT workers" The key word that bugged me was, "shouldn't". I went back to his post and skimmed most of the other ones and I didn't see where spuddy_m had actually said they should not be hired.

Although spuddy_m turned out to be the troll that he did I never saw where he made that statement. This means that someone at TR (hopefully through a mistake) stated the title incorrectly and I feel it was somewhat incendiary. I see this in the way some headlines read in newspaper and magazine for the effect.

by onbliss

I did read your original post that was answered by Tigger in the "other" thread. I concur with you, totally.

A thin line separates the acts of "creating interest" and "instigating" (or inciting).

by tig2

Old Guy, I understand completely what you were irritated with. That was why I went back and did the comparison. You were absolutely right- TR had added the header. But they quoted his post exactly.

Your irritation was that the header- inflammatory- should not have been ascribed to his original post.

Don't worry- we're good! :)

by old guy

I appreciate your reply. I still like the Ti double gaa errrTwo for you. :) Tigger is my favorite Disney Character. I have a picture of me holding the live character in midair when we went to Disney World a long time ago. I whispered something to him and he just jumped straight up and I had to catch him or he would have hit the ground. It was hilarious. :)

by onbliss

I was still fresh in USA when I heard people referring to a tiger doll as Tigger. Knowing that Americans spelled a few words differently and pronounced "Z" as "zee", I thought this was how Americans pronounced Tiger. But, still I was like "Whaaaat".

During conversations I had already heard people saying "teeny", and I thought that was the pronounciation for the word [b]tiny[/b]. Hence, I thought [b]tigger[/b] was one more such word with a difference.

It was quite later that I heard of the phrase "teeny-tiny" and became familiar with the Tigger character :-)

by tig2

I chose TiggerTwo because there is a Tigger out in TR land somewhere (never seen him/her)and I was pretty intent on using the name. I'm originally from Southern California and worked for Disneyland in my younger and more limber years. I was originally hired to be in the Electrical Parade but they needed to replace their Tigger. I got to spend a California summmer in an orange and black costume that I could only see down in.

Some of those old stories are worth the price of admission! :)

by tig2

The rules when I wore the Tigger suit was that your handler was your best (and sometimes only) friend and that they would control the crowd around you.

I mostly got kids that wanted to play with my... em... tail. As in pull, try to foribly remove, others.

I was ALWAYS grateful to my handlers!

We were prohibited from touching the guests beyond some defined guidelines. The characters inside a 100% costume couldn't talk at all- So the characters like Cinderella and Snow White could speak but not the rest of us.

Probably the most interesting job I have EVER had or ever will have. But fun!

by tig2

If you are up for a good laugh, go check the original "Self Trained" thread. It is now called "." and was authored by "Dr. Jones".

Some people. Sheesh!

by j.lupo

trouble maker we had last year that "trolled" around and kept changing their name to cause trouble. Anyone remember that one?

I feel bad for TiggerTwo. It is just too easy to change our id's on this site if someone can take someone else's id.

by tig2

I had seen this person take on several different names early this morning. Now the thread is called "." and was authored by "Dr. Jones".

I think that the spammer you are referring to was known as "Underage". Does have a similar stench...

And he wasn't able to take my ID entirely. He had to insert a space between Tigger and Two. Besides, no pink ribbon. I always have a pink ribbon.

by j.lupo

that was one of the titles, I think that one also went by "Amir Allahtola..."
or something like that. Sorry for my spelling.

I gots pink stuff too in support.

by hal 9000

To Jacob something or other or at the very least it was something like that a few minutes ago though it may have changed again.

As for your [b]Pink Ribbon[/b] I remember recently you had something else punching the living daylights out of something telling them, it or whatever to [b]Stop Making Stupid Posts[/B] :0

In this case it think that it applies much better to Spuddy M.

Col ]:)

by dmambo

(With the exception of myself, of course)

There have been several of these types lately. There was NotAnUnderage, one last year whose name(s) I can't recall but posted a bunch of hate spew, and a few others who think that they'll get a rise out of old school members by being profane or just plain obnoxious.

Now, I'm not saying that profane or obnoxious is all bad. Lord knows I have an abundance of both traits. It's just that some folks have no other qualities. You can ignore them completely, but stealing another's ID is downright rude. I hope TR squashes the false Tigger. If nothing else, he'll have to create a new ID and lose his history.

by j.lupo

Why would they care? The create the ids and load of the server with their garbage. Unfortunately the rest of us have to deal with them only until they are identified. Too bad we can't have an "internet jail" for these types where they have to listen to music (name worst singer/songs) all day long.

by hal 9000

Do you realise that you've now completely ruined your [b]Cleaner than Clean Image?[/b] No more [b]Red Glow[/b] from the East in my case on the Friday Yuk. :D

Welcome to the gutter with the rest of us hard working IT freaks. :0

Col ]:)

by sleepin'dawg

now removed his original post by editing it down to a "[b].[/b]"(a period). It is obvious the punk is seriously lacking in intestinal fortitude. He has now changed his name to [b]Dr.Jones[/b] in the vain hope of disguising the fact of being a troll and the useless piece of dung, that he is. I have stated my opinion of [b]Dr.Jones[/b] in no uncertain terms.

http://tinyurl.com/p5zhx
http://tinyurl.com/6wbv

Whatever you call yourself, Spuddy, Tigger Two or Dr Jones you can't disguise the fact that you are like a piece of dog excrement, which I unfortunately, accidently stepped in. X-(

BTW this dillhole has been a TR member since September 2001, how come we haven't seen the punk before??? X-(

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by onbliss

I agree with you.

That is very unethical for him to go and edit the entire post down to a period ".". And to think so many of us contributed to that discussion.

I was giving him the benefit of doubt, since I did not remember the original post. But this act confirms that he is not here for some good discussions. And by switching the site alias, he managed to make a fool out of himself.

The one benefit I see from that thread is that it brought about a discussion on the subject (once again), and new readers and/or passive members could get to read them.

by tig2

Might have been re-born as "Messaging Guy". Brand new, all the characteristics are the same.

1AW still has me as a contact. I will PM you with what I think will happen next. If I am right, she's still out there. How unfortunate.

by sleepin'dawg

seems to have another identity, [b]E=[/b] started June 2006 but it has 10K Q&A points. He has the Dr.Jones one as well. Check it out at "." but I'm positive that's him as well. It would be interesting to see how he pulled that trick off. Some of Spuddy's posts are now Dr.Jones and some E=. I think this is now way past the point of being funny.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by hal 9000

It's one of the few that I remember not because it was good but because of the [b]Stupid Replies[/b] that where added by the original poster.

It ranks up there with the [b]EL[/b] thread something I try unsuccessfully to forget.

Col

by jellimonsta

At least EL started out with some logical debate, before it turned to the mud slinging and mindless babbling!! :D

by tig2

It is identical to "Sister Chek"... anyone remember 1AW??? The ONLY difference is that this person had a 10k tag and had theoretically been around since Sept 2001... Although I just checked- the 10k tag is mysteriously missing.

Oh, and j.lupo, 1AW was a must miss- as was her alter ego, Sister Chek. Trust me. :)

by tig2

As I read your posts, I find that we have much in common- especially as we bridge the Business/IT gap.

Read just about anything about me and you will easily discover why all the pink ribbon too...

Nice to have you back!

by sleepin'dawg

I looked over their posts a couple of times and finally concluded that they were two different people. The difference between them was that 1AW goes through life trying to bring sweetness and light into the humdrum existences of people's lives whether they want it or not and wasn't taking no for an answer.

Sister Chek on the other hand was a completely different animal. She made better use of language but this cannot hide the fact that she was a flatulent, mentally diseased old b:tch who had no concept of which way was up. She did insist upon sticking her oar in though, for no apparent reason or intent to contribute, other than stir things up needlessly. Wherever or whoever she is or was, I hope that the fleas of 100 camels are infesting her groin and that a horde of maggots are feasting on what little is left of that diseased little brain.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

by tig2

I SO need to learn how to do that!

I was once turned down for a contract because the senior thought I was "too nice".

Me. Too nice???

Okay. Maybe he had a point. Actually happened twice. I don't get it. I am truly rotten. I tell everyone I am. I even compared someone's (well, okay, Spuddy's) degree to the equivalent of training a dog to not urinate on the furniture. That's rotten, isn't it???

I have noticed that neither 1AW OR Sister Chek have returned... as far as any of us know.

The thing about Spuddy that got me thinking on those lines was the invective that it(?) used in responses and the complete inability to respond to intellegent well thought out posts. I saw that trait in both 1AW and Sister Chek. I did think for awhile that possibly there were two minds at work there- Schitzo? Could be. Just not sure.

ADDENDUM
Something "Spuddy" said that caused me to think of 1AW... tjsanko mentioned an acquaintance that had employment issues due to overweight and body odour. The response gave the sense that the individual posting had some control issues and then was promptly dropped. The 2 of 4 reference in the post made no sense as tjsanko mentioned only 2 personal traits. I don't think the poster was referring to degrees/certs as the response did not lead in that direction. 1AW, at least from the photo, needed a good exercise programme.

by ontheropes

'Dawg's doing some warm-up exercises. Stand back and cover yer youngun's eyeballs when he gets ready and lets loose...

Medic's on standby NOW!

by dmambo

I should have said that stealing an alias is rude. If TR kills an ID, the offending member would have to create a whole new account. And I hope that by disabling an ID, the idiot would have to use a different e-mail address for the new account. Every obstacle they can throw at these wastes of human flesh is for the good.

Hi Dawg! How's it goin'? Been a while.

by jellimonsta

I have been too busy to frequent TR lately, so I missed the melee. I doubt I would have been fooled by the twonk anyway.
Although, there was something I WAS wondering.... if the wonderful thing about Tigger's is that you're the only one.... why are you TiggerTwo??? ?:|

by tig2

Wouldn't let me call myself Tigger.

Someone else has Tigger. I should have it but I can't. Darn them to heck! and all that...

by old guy

Disney Land then I know I love you! That would have to be one of the most awsome jobs in the world. I can imagine how hard it would be due to heat and weight but man, that would be too cool!

While in Disney World I had been looking for Tigger for three days and hadn't been able to find him because I wanted my picture taken with him since he is my favorite character. I finally found him on the fourth day and was watching him with a small group of teenage girls around him. I finally got up to him and leaned over and said, "I know you're a guy because of the way you were flirting with those girls but I don't care I still love you." That was when he litterally jumped straight up and I had to catch him or he would have landed on his back. My wife took the picture just then. We had it blown up to an 8x10. It is still my favorite picture.

by old guy

who Tigger is then your life is complete! :^0

Tigger (Ti double gaa errr is the Best!) :)

Yeah I may be old but I'm still just a big kid.

by tig2

I really thought that we were over it- I hate the sophmoric BS but hate being misrepresented as much or more.

Is there any help for the issue or do I just keep looking over my shoulder.

I hate stupid people...

Insights, anyone? This guy seems pretty intent on f-ing us all around. Is there a need to escalate?

by onbliss

Here are few more Q&A questions that Dr.Jones asked and awarded points to [b]E=[/b]

1. Co-Operation?: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-11186-0.html?forumID=51&threadID=196184
2.Interesting. https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-11186-0.html?forumID=79&threadID=196185

Ridiculous amount of points [b]1000[/b]+[b]9000[/b]+[b]8320[/b] :-)

Looks like Dr.Jones has been downloading the points to [b]E=[/b] heeeee heeeeeee

ps:
Did he think that people will not notice? Now E= has 10k points.

Edited: Formatting and postscript

by ontheropes

The "." discussion is Jacob Sanderson as of 8:19 6/14/06 EDT. Yep. I feel bad for the mutant. Whoops. I'm over it. Took longer than I expected.

by tig2

So Jacob Sanderson is the illustrious author of the "." thread that has garnered all the attention? I am ashamed of myself.

It never occurred to me to try and find out "who". I got way too caught up in "what".

Whatever will we do while you are down??? You are the BEST!

Tig

by ontheropes

now one of the discussions I posted to regarding the fake name is Inside TR where I can't see it. Yippee.

by jdtoo

The good immitations it is alright to be fooled by! :D

So if your a bad person, does that mean you need a spanking? ]:)

by hal 9000

With words to the effect that he wasn't about to get a copy of the Beta Product from MS because he wasn't paid to do things like this.

Apparently his Degree allows him to steep seamlessly between different Platforms without any problems so unlike the rest of us lowly grunts who need to learn he can just walk though life without a problem. This one defiantly reminds me of someone that used to work for me who only showed up to work for the Pay Check and nothing else.

Col

by tig2

To Faketiggerthree:

You are NOT welcome to post your brand of bullsh*t here- I don't care what you call yourself!

Jay, Smorty, All TR! Please help me stop this horsesh*tter!!!

Why am I being identified for this? I (a) don't need it and (b) won't tolerate it.

You want to know what hard is buddy? Do you have a clue???

I heard you talk about how difficult is was to get a degree and work a full time job. Been there, done that.

Now add being diagnosed with cancer, having surgery, having surgery AGAIN, and while you are at it, deal with some idiot who stole your identity (from your BANK) and the subsequent loss of everything you have until you are living in a street with one breast, going through chemo, too d@mn sick to work and trying to survive.

I had to FIGHT my way back up, you sh*thead. You have no f-ing clue what tough looks like.

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpit you S.O.B!

by tig2

I got the line from Dawg. I NEED this craphead to stop. How???

WTF???

I hate this SOB. Just don't tell anyone I used the "H: word...

by tig2

I don't know or are who this shIt head is but received this in peer mail from an unknown address:

One of your fellow TechRepublic members has sent you a private message:

From: Faketiggerthree
Subject: Here I thought you would see through the name right off...
Message:
Hey Tig, before you put your fist through your monitor, who was it that kept calling the immitator "FAKE"?

Who jumped right to your side ASAP?

Who made a brand new account and started giving people a hard time, in light of everything that has gone on today?

Of course you wouldn't recognize the avitar as the one I used for a long time.

Being upset, you probably didn't even look at the profile where I was dropping clues all over the place.......

No, I am not the dipstick that took your name in vain. Do you know who I am now?

Didn't mean to upset you. Sorry about that.

This dickwad is now implying that JD has been doing all of this crap.

Peers- do you agree? I DO NOT

by gadgetgirl

It's a good job I don't have any problems with you reading my mind....

yet....

(took the words right out of my mouth, babz!)

:D

GG

by old guy

You know that idiots like that thrive off the uproar they can cause. The more people respond to his antics the more he'll put out. People like that get very bored very quickly when everyone ignores them. All of us know he's an idiot and we know what he's up to. We will respond to you and your posts but not to the likes of pitiful idiots. Just ignore him. They've all gone away after a little while.

by tig2

This has gotten under my skin- perhaps more than I really knew.

I have had someone steal my identity. I am still paying for it- beyond $$$, timing was pretty bad (see earlier post).

I think that perhaps I should go underground for a bit and work on things that are important and relevant for me.

And pray. (yes, I know, eeewww!)

This hurt. I really hate it. I know, hatred is unproductive. I will work with that.

D@mn!

by jdclyde

the more attention he gets, the more he does it.

After people stop responding, he will get bored and go away. Really not much else can be done.

The only alternative is to become a stalker and everytime this boy makes a post, you follow it up with something regarding him kissing his mom with open mouth or something.

He isn't worth the effort though.

Hope today goes better for you!

:x

by hal 9000

Someone claiming to be connected with a company is apologising for the entire thread and is blaming it on a [b]Work Experience[/b] person who has been misusing the companies assets now departed.

It might even be genuine as well and if it is I just hope that someone suggests to change the password to prevent the [b]Troll[/b] from getting back on under that account. :^0

Col ]:)

by jellimonsta

why change the original post again? Why not add a comment at the end of the thread? Covering it up in my opinion. Could be wrong I guess (there is a first time for everything!!) ;) :0

by hal 9000

Mainly because this was not the first time that this account was used to start a similar discussion. The same account was used about 18 months ago for the exact same type of thread.

Now a [b]Work Experience[/b] person wouldn't generally have that type of access to an account on the same computer but the child of a company Owner would.

But I'm Cynical and [b]Proud of it![/b]

This looks like Daddy pulling Juniors A$$ out of trouble again to me but I could be mistaken.

:^0 :D

Col ]:)

by dmambo

If you do that, the terrorists win. Listen to JD and THE Old Guy. OG made a great point that the jerks have all gone out with a whimper in the past, and this one will too. Hang in there (by that springy tail of yours).

by hal 9000

Instead of getting upset Tig could just bounce all over this jerk and leave them lying in a heap on the ground licking their wounds and waiting for it to open up and sallow them completely. :D

Everyone knows that [b]Tiggers[/b] like to [b]Bounce[/b] and the more bouncing that they can do the better off they feel. :^0

Col ]:)

by dmambo

I just now checked out the thread formally known as "." (it's now "Caught"). I can't read the original post, but it seems like it started as a legit, if hackneyed, degree vs. certs vs. real-world experience discussion. How did it go so wrong?

I didn't do a thorough read, but it seems like Spuddy asked a question, then wanted to hear no opinions other than the one he posted. What's the point of posting a discussion if you don't want to discuss? The fact that he pulled a stupid stunt like the Tigger rip off has dropped him into the Hall of Shame forever.

by j.lupo

I don't think he would be allowed in. I think exile would be appropriate, don't you? Why should he/she be honored in a Hall as noble as that of Shame?

The naughty should be given their timeout and banished to the corner to learn their lessons, no?

by tig2

The smegger that called himself Spuddy is now Beth 2006. And using my pink ribbon as an avatar.

Dawg, you were absolutely right. My ribbon could be taken in vain- just like my name.

I have sent appropriate email to the right people (I hope) and have posted this nonsense everywhere it made sense.

I have been through enough. This is really the last I can take.

I have 24 miles to walk this weekend so I will likely be sporadically in touch. I have to fight a few inner demons as well- there is a part of me that hopes that Spuddy finds a disturbing lump.

I have some anger management issues here, I guess.

by rob mekel

TR-staff interfering is to let it be and give no notice to the "nice person". Lack of attention will be not the thing this "nice person" is looking for.
Just make sure you won't react to one of these "nice persons" personalities.

Rob

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