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DRAFT OR CIVIC ACTION CORPS

By XEntity ·
The news of the selective service running a drill of their program seems odd at this time. Why has the drill not been run in the past?

If recalled to serve your country domestically would you do it? If given a choice of civic service or military service which would you do?

What if the enticement was a information technology position of coordinating data and systems about these butt hole terrorist and cross correlating their activities? would you be interested in helping on something like that? A team of elite computer geeks that crack the code on these whackos.

I think recalling people to civic action is a cool idea. Its people getting involved in their own communities against terrorism. Everyone has a stake in the future that way.

Maybe they should do the same in Iraq and mobilize a Civic Action Corps to solve their own community issues and rebuild their own country. I think Maliki should get on TV and say he has had enough. Its time Iraqis stood and take charge of their future. Effective immendiately, Iraqis between 18 to 35 are mobilized into Civic Action Corps. They duty is to report to their Neighborhood Governments for assignment to duties turning Iraq around. They will be assigned duties that range from security to infrastructure repair.

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Either. Both.

by NickNielsen In reply to DRAFT OR CIVIC ACTION COR ...

I have thought for years that some form of mandatory service was necessary for all Americans. Two years at the completion of school (high school, technical school, or college), to be served in a public sector organization (e.g. VISTA), volunteer organization, or the military. All individuals to be assigned not less than 1000 miles from home of record at time of enlistment. Interest and payments on all student loans to be held in abeyance for that period.

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I AGREE!

by XEntity In reply to Either. Both.

I think everyone should serve this country in some form or another. I believe we should maintain our national identity being unique from the rest of the world. We have been unique for a reason. Service in the form of military or civic action builds pride in our communities, state, and nation.

Civic Action service should not be a career but more of a community service minute man who can be mobilized to support domestic needs such as disaster recovery, border defense, and ecological or conservation projects.

Could you imagine what could happen if 2,000 people (mostly local) were mobilized to walk through some of thier worst trashed out areas cleaning up garbage and grafitti? Then a beefed up law enforcement presence remained to keep the order until other efforts dealt with the economic despondence in that area.

Wow! America could be so much more.

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by NickNielsen In reply to DRAFT OR CIVIC ACTION COR ...
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You are kidding, right?

by jkameleon In reply to DRAFT OR CIVIC ACTION COR ...

> A team of elite computer geeks that crack the code on these whackos.

Computer geeks against terrorists... Oh dear.

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ABSOLUTELY NOT!

by XEntity In reply to You are kidding, right?

Think about it,these whacko nutcase terrorist, aka radicalized Muslims, leave tidbits of information everywhere. Someone has to take the tiniest bit of information and try to link it back to the terror groups. It could be anything such as a shoe found, a glass in a restaruant used by a radicialized Mulsim, or anything for that matter that DNA, finger prints, or other information about these freaks can be taken from.

This has to be collected and organized into a complete picture. There are clear mathematics that govern their behaviors. Computers and technology can be used to relate and pinpoint data to other data building the picture.

Who better to operate these systems than American Computer Geeks with an attitude!

I think everyone should serve this country. I think a Civic Action Corps could supplement police, hospitals, and fire departments at a minimum. They could also be used to conduct major reconstruction projects after disasters and also to do conservation projects.

America could become something even greater!

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It's a no go.

by jkameleon In reply to ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Before you dwell any further into problems and solutions for terrorism, please take a look at the history of this phenomena.

There was a lot of terrorism in Europe in the 1970s. The only difference was that whacko nutcase terrorists were communists, not muslims back then. There was a lot of panic, wanted posters and police parading everywhere, media produced BS at 120% capacity, pretty much the same as today. At the end, all that terrorism turned out to be phony. Even one of the worst terrorist attacks on European soil ever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_massacre) was false flag. For more information, google "strategy of tension". The kidnapping and assasination of Aldo Moro is also very instructive.


> There are clear mathematics that govern their behaviors.

Nope. It's not mathematics, but politics and interests.

Remember: When people in power don't understand something, that's usually not because of lack of logic and mathematics on their part. They don't understand because they are paid for not understanding.


> I think a Civic Action Corps could supplement police, hospitals, and fire departments at a minimum. They could also be used to conduct major reconstruction projects after disasters and also to do conservation projects.

Policemen, doctors, nurses, firemen, and construction workers are trained and paid to keep police, hospitals, fire departments, and construction projects going. What makes you think, that involuntarily drafted unskilled workforce would do their jobs any better?

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You Are Mistaken!

by XEntity In reply to It's a no go.

You cited terror of the 70's which was sponsored differently than today. Today's terror is more or less an institution of radicalized Muslims. This is what their philosophers and leaders say:

?All those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the world? Those who know nothing about Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. They are witless!?, the Ayatollah Khomeini commented during a speech which sought to inspire militant Muslims and advance an agenda of Islamic dominance through terror.

?Islam is not normal religion like other religions in the world, and Muslim nations are not like normal nations. Muslim nations are very special because they have a command from Allah to rule the entire world and to be over every nation in the world. Islam is a revolutionary faith that comes to destroy any government made by man. Islam doesn?t look for a nation to be in better condition than another nation. Islam doesn?t care about the land. The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power in this world that tries to get in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy. In order for Islam to fulfill that goal, Islam can use every power available every way it can be used to bring worldwide revolution. This is Jihad.?, a noted and respected Islamic Scholar Mawlana Abul ala Mawdudi (1903-1997) remarks.

The Islamic Philosopher Ibn Taymiyah wrote, ?Believers when in a weakened stage in a non-muslim country should forgive and be patient with people of the book when they insult Allah and his prophet by any means. Believers should lie to people of the book to protect their lives and religion.?

Regarding the mathematics, there are mathematical algorythms that model behaviors of populations of people, known in lay terms as Wisdom of a Crowd. This often uses Bayesian mathematics and other non-linear methods of modeling complex relationships. The modelled behavior can be used to influencing behavior and determining general outcomes.

"What makes you think, that involuntarily drafted unskilled workforce would do their jobs any better?"

I think that the Civic Action Corps is a cross section of Society as a whole and is intended as surge labor. Indoctrination into the Corps could give people basic skills in a variety of functional areas. Augmentees would not be brain surgeons but rather trained in first aide dealing with shock, CPR, IV's and dressing wounds. Augmentees could also be trained in basic public saftey doing activities such as directing traffic, channelling disobients, and standing watches. Augementees could be trained in a matter of a week on how to handle fire lines and directing wide angle spray or jets of water. They could be shown how to flake a line and hook it up.

I believe in a 4 week indoctrination course into a Civic Action Corps People could gain the necessary skills across a wide breath of disciplines. Societal members who have uniques skills requiring extensive training like programming, engineering, surgical skills, and legal skills could be screened to support more complex needs during surge times. Young people coming from colleges and community tech schools could gain practical experience during service!

I think we saw on **1 how much the system was tasked. That could be alleviated if people were civic action minute men!

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Whatever...

by jkameleon In reply to You Are Mistaken!

> You cited terror of the 70's which was sponsored differently than today.

You obviously haven't bothered to find out who actually sponsored the 70's terror. In case you aren't paid for not finding that out, I'd say you better do it.

Terror is like spam, you never know who sent it and why, because "From" address is always forged. Sometimes it's sent to sell viagra and such, and sometimes to make the alleged sender look bad. There's only one thing you can be sure about spam: It's always some kind of scam. The same holds good for terror.


> Wisdom of a Crowd

That's contradiction in terms.

Anyway, what is that conscripted geek squad of yours supposed to do then? Search for terrorists on the internet, or help the leaders to control their crowds?


> I think that the Civic Action Corps is a cross section of Society...

*** SIGH *** Whatever... Americans should know their business, I guess.

As for me, CACs would be a sure sign that the USA went communist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_work_actions

All that decades of the Cold War struggle would be for nothing then. Oh well... it happens.

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AGREE TO A POINT

by XEntity In reply to Whatever...

I agree that the methods of terrorism are used by many. However, the current employment of terrorism is by a radicalized institution that has been around since circa 600AD.

The employment of people is critical in the prevention of upheaval. If a Civic Action Corps is designed for surge support to an existing situations and not advance some other political ideology then I see no issues. The Chinese employed millions in manual labor just to prevent war to not instutionalize their communist variant. Although there is that effect to some extent.

You should check out the book "Wisdom of a Crowd".

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