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Hungary pageant for surgically enhanced beauties

Oct 10, 11:39 AM (ET)

By PABLO GORONDI

BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) - It was a night for unnatural beauties. Contestants showed off breast implants, nose jobs and face lifts as Miss Plastic Hungary 2009 strove to promote the benefits of plastic surgery in a country where artificial enhancements are viewed mostly with a wary eye.

"I think this competition is long overdue," said photographer Marton Szipal, one of the pageant judges. "Hungarians used to laugh about plastic surgery but it's time for Hungarian women to care more about their appearance. They are the most beautiful in Europe."

Plastic surgeon Dr. Tamas Rozsos said the pageant also meant to show that cosmetic corrections did not necessarily have to be about oversized breasts, bulbous lips and skin stretched to near tearing point.

"This about restoring harmony ... eliminating asymmetries and giving women the opportunity to have normal features," Rozsos said. "Plastic surgery has a bad reputation in Hungary but its mostly due to the exaggerations."

Despite Hungary having been hit hard by the global economic crisis with the government forced to scale back spending on health services, Rozsos said that the number of surgeries had been rising year by year.

"People for whom this is important always find the money," Rozsos said.

To qualify for the pageant, the 18 Hungarian residents had to prove they'd gone fully under the knife - mere Botox or collagen injections did not count. Nearly all the contestants showed off augmented breasts, with reshaped noses also popular. One finalist had surgically adjusted toes.

Organizers claimed contestants were expected to show "a perfect harmony of body and soul," but the three-part pageant concentrated almost exclusively on the women's physical attributes and the usually conspicuous wishes for world peace went missing.

Miss Plastic candidates were at least 18 years old and included a former rhythmic gymnast, a firefighter married to a police officer, a mother of three and several strippers. There was a special category for women over 30.

Pageant queen Reka Urban, a 22-year-old hostess, won an apartment in Budapest, first runner-up Edina Kulcsar was given a new car and second runner-up Alexandra Horvath took home diamond jewelry worth 2 million forints ($10,800). The winners' plastic surgeons also received awards.

'Miss Plastic'?
Am I the only one who finds this - if not sickening - pretty damned ridiculous?

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by tig2

Under the "Pretty Damned Ridiculous" banner. I'll get to sickening too.

Better living through unnecessary surgery. And we wonder what kind of messages we send as a society?

Uh, Lord? Are you sure I belong here???

by hal 9000

This is perfectly acceptable particularly with women who have undergone Surgery of the Plastic Type to remove scars and so on.

I really do not see a problem with this other than the fact that the Surgeons got prizes which to me is more about promoting the individual Surgeons rather than the type of work that they do.

Plastic Surgery was first developed of during the Second World War to repair scars from burns suffered by Pilots. They where pretty horrific and deforming. So the Surgeons who treated these guys did a wonderful job.

Since then this type of Surgery has been hijacked by women who feel the need to look differently to what they where born with and particularly in the US has been corrupted by Inedible Surgeons getting as Cult Following as the [b]Must Have Plastic Surgeon to be Cool.[/b] To me this is unacceptable and from the report above the pageant seems to me at least to be more about pushing the Individual Surgeons Work than making the lives of individuals better.

But the one big advantage of Vain Females wanting lots of Surgery of this type is that it makes things better for those who really need it as the Vain Types are the ones working out the Bugs for those who really need it.

OH and South Park had the right idea where all of those who underwent Plastic Surgery actually though that they would be what they looked like, so the white Jewish kid who wanted to be a Black Basketball Star failed, the guy who wanted to be a woman couldn't get [b]Knocked Up[/b] and the guy who wanted to be a dolphin nearly drowned. Pity that that lot survived if you ask me. :^0

Col 0:-)

by hal 9000

The Plastic Surgeons Society of Hungry?

Certainly sounds like Shameless Self Promotion of the industry if you ask me. ;)

Col

by older mycroft

I don't mean both of 'em on the one woman! :D

No - two different bints with plastic boobies, and on each occasion I beat a hasty retreat. Dunno what is feels like to carry them around all day, but from an aficionado's point of view they just don't do the business! :^0

by tig2

That those of us who actually might be considered to need them frequently don't bother???

I'd call it a start.

by hal 9000

Breast enlargement is not Breast Reconstruction there is a very big difference between the two of those procedures.

Breast Augmentation/Enlargement isn't done for anything but Cosmetic Reasons and even then generally under the Physiological Help catch Cry.

Breast Reconstruction is to replace something that has been removed for whatever reason and it's aim is to return a Balance and Symmetry while clothed. Breast Enlargement on the other hand is geared toward something else. ;)

I've seen quite a lot of Reconstructive work over the years and they can look good to barley believable depending on the surgeon who does the Opp. But Breast Enlargement in my opinion always looks Fake and way too Plastic for my liking.

But then again the Surgeons who do the latter are generally more interested in making money for themselves rather than well you know what. They get them young and make them bigger and then wait a couple of years till Gravity takes control and then do Reduction Surgery. :D

But It's up to the individual as to what they find acceptable and when that gets overlooked for whatever reason the entire system is flawed and needs redoing.

Col

by oz_media

I had a super hot girlfriend when I was really young (15 thru 17 or so)that was a gymnast with nicely developed, natural boobs, the kind worth writing home about. Seriously, this gal was the bomb!

After my divorce, I ran into her again and we hung out a few times. I had seen her before a few times in the strip bars, where she worked a a dancer, but we just smiled in passing.

She was now rather large on top, 44DD, and had kids. Apprently jer kids removed her last set and she went out and ought new ones.

Well, I thought, they are nice and big but not the nturals she used to have. After we'd been together a few times I started ti bore of them and wished she had her old neturals again. My drive for her faded pretty quick and I eventually got rid of her, which wasn't weasy, and haven't heard from her since. She does call my mum's looking for me every now and then though, to which she is told I'm not around much anymore. (I luv me mum!)

by oz_media

Women tha have just had oo jobs done and they have to keep squishing them to stop them from going brittle and to work the creases out. I always find that gross when a stripper bends forward and you can see the puckers around the silicone bags in her chest (as opposed to smooth skin hanging around them).

Women with enw implants have to squish and squeeze them, far more than a guy ever would for sure. One it is not attractive, two it's no fun unless i get to do it, three it's ALWAYS in public never at home. I suppose its' their way of saying "hey look I bought new boobies!"

But as for what people choose to do with their own bodies, I don't care, it's none of my business anyway.

by maecuff

And I'm wondering when women (or at least a lot of women) will stop using their breasts for self-validation.

We are not breasts. We are people. It's great to be a girl. I LOVE being female. And I would still be just as female and love it JUST as much without the breasts.

Honestly, I can see having them reduced. I've known a few women who have done that and it made all the difference to their health and how they felt everyday (reduced headaches and backaches). And I can understand reconstructive surgery should you have to have one or both removed.

But getting them enlarged? Phfffft.

by oz_media

YOu have a great deal of self respect, others do not and many women just get very small implants. It's not always the Dolly Parton job, many women with average sized boobs have implants. Some girls have been repressed as part of the itty-itty-titty clu for too many years and just feel better abotu themselves with more average sized chest.

I don't understand hwo other women get so upset over women with implants.

I don't get upset over guys with penile implants. Hey if you want a giant todger, all the power to you, now find a girlfirend who'll stick around for lovin once the novelty wears off.

Seriously, this is where i see my rights infringing on the rights of others. YOu want to kill yourself, go kill yourself. Yuo want to kimp out of airplanes, go for it and fly safe. You want to have plastic surgery you go for it, what business is it of mine either way? It's not my body, it's not my concern, it's not my life, who teh hell cares what other people do with their own bodies?

I don't think tramp stamps are sexy, in fact MOST tattoos on women do nothing but turn me off. I don't care for women who chew gum, I don't care for women who chew with their mouth open. Either way, I don't have to surround myself with them, I don't have to marry with them or cope with their manners if I don't like them, WHO THE HELL CARES WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH THEMSELVES?

Holy cow, women are really bitchy and catty towards other women and what they do with their bodies!

by maecuff

I just relate breasts implants to poor body image or low self-esteem and (and this is just my personal opinion, it doesn't mean I'm right) but it seems that self-acceptance is better than self-mutilation.

With that being said, I do have tattoos. No tramp stamp, though. I guess as far as self-mutilation goes, there are degrees. It just seems that invasive surgery goes a bit far.

And (again, my opinion) it seems that getting bigger boobs is for the gratification of the opposite sex. My tattoos are for me.

by Member 25348569

was Tiresias. He got turned by Hera from a man to a woman - had a couple of kids - and then got turned back again.

Tiresias reckoned "Of ten parts a man enjoys one only."

Hmmmm....Should I be jealous? :D

by gsg

The "winner" gets an apartment in Budapest. My opinion is that the "sponsor" will have a key to said apartment, if you know what I mean.

by oz_media

How can you be sickened by what someone else chooses to do to their body more than 4300 miles away?

Personally I think fake blondes with big hair is ridiculous too. I think fat women wearing spandex is ridiculous too.

There are always those with valid reasons for needing or wanting plastic surgery too though. Either way, I can't say it's sickening because what someone else does with their body is none of my business anyway. Fill yer boots, if that''s what you need to do to feel good about yourself, it's no skin off of my nose (bad pun ,sorry).

Seriously though, who CARES if people get plastic surgery? The number of women these days with implants...somewhere, is astronomical.

In many cases women with plastic surgery are not qualified for normal pageants either, it is becoming a complaint more and more often, so they NEED some sort of pageant just for women with such surgeries, it actually makes more sense than a mixed pageant.

Stock cars always get a different class than super modified cars too.

However, if they ever need a judge for the boob section, I'm always free, even though I'm not a boob guy, I can't say I wouldn't jump at the chance.

by dmambo

Probably sponsored by the plastic surgeons' association to promote their trade.

Even in this little town in VT, there are small ads every week in the local newspaper for a cosmetic surgery practice in Albany, NY which is not too far away. It wouldn't be offered if there was no money in it.

I'd post a crass comment, but Tigger and Mae's posts have deflated my enthusiasm for that.

by dmambo

"Pageant queen Reka Urban, a 22-year-old hostess..."

A Hostess? I'd like to see her cupcakes! ]:)

by jck

But, I'm gonna enter the Mr. Plastic USA contest when I get my 1/2 meter man-part enhancement. :^0

by forum surfer

I have a lifelong friend that was in a motorcycle crash. He lost one half of his pair in the crash. Yeah, I know...that had to hurt to have one of the fellas crushed, right? But after four years of doubting himself and feeling self conscious, he bought a new testicle. I can't speak for the results, but he says it looks and feels natural.

On a lighter note, once he confessed it at the bar when some old friends got together, we had to make fun of him. The best suggestion was that he should have gotten the magnetic massage balls implanted, instead. Imagine explaining that one to a new girlfriend! :)

by jck

Being from the south and cowboy land, I knew a guy who was a bullrider that had a testicle crushed when he was a teenager.

He said the implant feels normal.

I know someone else who had the same circumstance, and had a titanium one put in.

I told him once not to get too close to speakers at a concert. :^0

by nicknielsen

But I don't recall a single occasion where I found a woman [u]more[/u] attractive after breast enhancement.

Now that I think about it, the converse is more often the case...

by nicknielsen

I've nothing against large ones if they're natural. But the implants just don't bounce the same way. :D

by dmambo

I just gotta get more multicultural with my boob jokes. My wife's been telling me that for years.

This one's probably no better:
A California cosmetic surgery clinic opened recently promising breast augmentation done on an out-patient basis and completed in 30 minutes or less. The name of the clinic is Jiffy-Boob.

by forum surfer

Okay, I admit it. The contest sounds like it is just one step away from a donkey show.

But so what if a woman wants to do something to her body? It is her body. If she has felt bad or somehow less confident about her breasts, let her buy breasts. Who are we to make assumptions about her persona based on her chest?

The older silicone jobs are hideous, I'll admit. Many of those were done poorly with large scars. Even today, unless you go to a proper clinic that lets you see many instances of their past work and have national accreditation, you're going to get a sub par result. I personally don't like it if they go more than 2 cup sizes. You've only got so much skin to stretch up there.

Coincidentally, I lived with a woman for 2 years that had a proper breast enlargement procedure. They didn't require massaging to avoid turning brittle...though we did massage them daily. :) There were no scars. They were perfectly aligned and the only thing different about them from the natural ones were the fact that they appeared to defy laws of gravity by being perky d cups at the age of 32. They felt quite nice, as well. A professionally done breast augmentation looks and feels spectacular. I would have felt the same about her had she had her "original equipment" b cups, but that was her decision. She made it prior to meeting me. I would have advised against it, but after seeing those for two years and the positive impact it made on her life...I think it was a good decision on her part.

There are many times it is a bad decision though. I have a friend who had hers done at 21. While the result was spectacular, I felt that was just too young.

by jamesrl

I've seen documentaries about Venezuala for example where virtually all of the contestents have had plastic surgery, and not just for breast enhancement, but all over the face, butt and other places.

They don't announce it at the pagents, its just the reality that unenhanced women don't get win the crowns there.

James

by seanferd

Forget the plastic boobies, the makeup is atrocious! Enough to make the prettiest woman edge toward hideous.

by forum surfer

I'd want them both done in stainless steel or titanium so that they would "clang" when I walked! Imagine walking into a business meeting clanging, or sitting down on a wooden chair and hearing the metal to wood "clunk." Talk about an ice breaker!

:)

by jck

But, imagine the bruising that could cause on a backside or chin. :p

by oz_media

In BC we have privatized liquor stores now, they are taking over for the former 'government dairy' monopolies around town.
So I was in a cold beer/liquor store with friends on the weekend, all cheerful and chuckling amongst ourselves and with others lined at the cashier. We get these little ottle topper freebees when they are trying to promote a new booze. Sometimes a little mini bottle of the same, sometimes a shotglass etc.

So I was laughing with my friend saying how, instead of Stella's, we should have bought the new wine that's on sale because it came with a free miniature tin of gold body glitter!
It was more like:
"WICKED!!!! Check this out! Put the beer back we can get FREE body glitter this way!!"

So we started joking about skipping down the street outside with our free, gold, body glitter. It turned into a joke others in the line started adding to, including the the cashier. One guy, looking very red eye stoned turned to me and giggled as he asked, "What would you do if you got outside and there was some drunk guy, butt naked, with an empty wine bottle all covered in gold glitter and dancing around." It ended up getting even more and more far fetched and I never did get the gold body glitter.
:(

But it was a good laugh anyway, that's the way people are here, we all just start talking to each other and joking around in lineups etc. There's really no such thing as strangers, just people you haven't spoken to yet.

In contrast I/we have joked around with people in line in the USA on many occasions and it usually results in the person looking at you like, "Er...I don't know you, why would you just start talking to me?" :) Oh well,different strokes.

I suppose you had to be there, but the gold paint got me started, good one!

by oz_media

Bigger boobs in many cases are an issue of self esteem. Many women have found they get farther in life and career with normal sized implants, if poorly endowed to begin with.

It's not always a matter of getting big bazoombas for a job as a peeler, that's just where the industry was exploited.

In many cases it is an insecurity issue, in some cases it's an issue of a person needing a normal or average outward image to help acceptance and personal cofidence.

I suppose I just try not to lump everyone into one group in that respect, there are what I would deem very valid reasons for some people, however I cannot say anyone's reason is invalid but simply not what I would deem worthy. IN the end it's not my business and if it' for teh gratification of teh opposite sex, that in turn is for self gratification. If the person seeks more attention from the opposite sex, then they are gratifying themselves by appealing to the opposite sex.

Long and short, to some people getting breast augmentation is actually more sensible than getting a tattoo. Breasts can e resized or removed relatively easily these days, tattos CAN be removed but leave just as much, if not even more scarring.

In short, we are all pretty different, even though most of use have the same number of appendages and features. It's up to people to decide what they feel works for them and who am I to judge what you do with YOUR body. I may not like it, but if that's the case, it probably wasn't done to appeal to me anyway, so who he hell cares?

by maecuff

All of them.

Honestly, in thinking over WHY I feel the way I do? On my 30th birthday, my ex-husband told me he got me a WONDERFUL present. He went on to tell me that he made an appointment for me with a plastic surgeon to get implants. And he wanted me to dye my hair blond. And he was honestly surprised when I turned down this generous gift. He also couldn't understand why I was so pissed off. So, if I am to be perfectly honest, my opinion on the subject is clouded by my own personal experiences.

With that being said, you are right, what people want to do to their bodies is their business.

by jck

been out with girls who did and didn't have boob jobs. Dated girls with everything from A to DD.

I like a girl natural. Just my personal feeling. I wouldn't say no to going out with a girl I liked just because she has them, but it's not a preference.

I've seen one boob job I couldn't tell was a boob job, and that was a friend of mine who had 2 kids and had severe breast tissue atrophy (she went from an A to a DD during her second pregnancy) and she was a tiny, 5'1 89 lb woman. She got them done and showed me the pictures, and I was like "Wow. Those look really good."

She said next time I'm in Atlanta, I get to see them in person. I just wasn't sure how her husband would feel about it though. :^0

by forum surfer

I'd be pissed, too! I can do what I want with my body, not you can do what you want with my body.

:)

The boob thing is optional, self confidence is always one of the sexiest, hottest parts about the opposite sex.

by oz_media

I have to ask, well I guess I don't really but I must ask, does he still have testicles? I think mine would have been swiftly removed through a series of painful but effective methods, had I done that.

I too see your point, but I think it applies to fewer and fewer cases, especially these days when naturals are in and size doesn't seem to matter as much as it did during the "Hey look at my new fake boobies" heydays.

by forum surfer

If you use the surgery to boost a sub par or above average level of confidence...who cares? Isn't that up to the boob owner? I had a friend...not lover, that went from an a to a c. She worked in finance management, very professional and intelligent. Seeing the look on her face when she tried on a dress that she could have never supported or worn before, was priceless to say the least. Her husband was not supportive at first since he objected, but she was hell bent for boobs and he came around.

Situations like that are a little different than your average stripper wanting bigger tips. Last time I was in a professional, well respected plastic surgery office I noticed far more professional women than trophy wives and strippers. I think it has become far more accepted and typically undetectable, except of course by people who know you. If you come back from vacation 1-2 cup sizes larger, it is difficult for people not to notice. Likewise, it is hard to not comment as curiosity gets the better of me. "Um, excuse me Lisa...did your boobs get bigger last weekend" may be a little blunt, gotta take the subtle approach or face sexual harassment.

by forum surfer

First off, I'm not knocking your knocker opinion. :) I've just repeated that nearly verbatim before I saw the positive impacts an enhancement had outside of the physical realm.

My ex got that from many, make that most women. She found it insulting as that wasn't the case with her. After living with her for 2 years and hearing the same thing over and over again, I see where she found that assumption insulting. Granted, I was of the same opinion. But seeing what a simple 2 cup sizes did for her outlook, her attitude and her confidence I can say the surgery definitely made a positive impact on her life...both professionally and personally. It was the added confidence more so than the added cleavage. Could she have added to her already high self confidence in other ways? Sure...but the surgery was her choice. I honestly spent so much time defending her boobs that I thought someone should start a support group or some twisted equal rights movement. :)

Oh, and yes the opposite sex does have fun with the enhancements...but I can guarantee you she had more fun with them than I did. Whether it be trying on stuff she couldn't wear prior to or just catching her playing with them when I got home for work, she had fun with them.

Like I said, there were no scars so I would hardly describe it as mutilation. I've been more horribly mutilated having fractured bones corrected.

by maecuff

I am forming my opinion based on my experiences. In reading these posts, it appears I must rethink my stance.

But still. It IS a mutilation of sorts. Getting your ears pierced is a mutilation of sorts. Like I said though, there are degrees of mutilation.

by jck

I kinda dig em...as long as some other dude's name isn't there. :^0

by forum surfer

Had a friend who divorced her husband "Harlee." It was cheaper for her to change her tatto of his name to a "Harley"-Davidson tattoo. than to remove it. It was a temporary fix which led to her eventually buying a Sportster and enjoying a new hobby.

Never put someone else's name on your body. The exceptions are your kids or dead relatives. Those are the only people you will love %100 undoubtedly forever. Lovers, friends, husbands and wives come and go sometimes...ink is permanent.

by jck

I have no tattoos. I told the girl I've been getting to know that if we do get married, I won't put her name on my body til our kids are all grown up and we have grandkids.

She asked why. I told her "If you stay with me that long, I know you're not going anywhere." :^0

I have joke about tattooing something on a part of my body, but it isn't a public thing and it involves putting her name there and I'm not putting her name out in public.

But it's funny as hell and involves "HIltoN" lmao ]:)

by jck

I like a woman who is confident...but not cocky.

God knows, I'm insecure enough for me and my girl both. :^0

by maecuff

He's dead now. I guess he might still have them, but they are probably all dried up.

And no, I had nothing to do with his death. He died years after we split up.

by oz_media

I'm so sorry, I honestly had no idea.

I thought we were talking about current hubby and didn't know about past hubby, my bad, my apologies. Talk about embarassing!

by maecuff

Don't apologize, it's not like I'm broken up about it.

I actually didn't even know he was dead until fairly recently. We hadn't seen or spoken to each other for 14 years, so really..

Besides, I divorced him. So, he wasn't one of my favorite people anyway.

And another thing..you couldn't have POSSIBLY known. Now I feel bad for making you feel bad. :)

by oz_media

I felt terrily embarassed to have brought it up so lightly. Of course, and I think you know, it was all my way of having fun.

Thankfuly it was you, our dear peer maecuff, and you are one hell of a decent broad. ;)

cheers

by forum surfer

I had dated a not-so-quick one for a short time. We were goofing off in the adult novelty shop and she seemed especially interested in the vibrating um, unit rings. The helpful young lady working said "Oh yes, I see you like that...those are spectacular, trust me." My g/f looked at the ring not realizing how incredibly elastic it is, looked at me, looked back at the clerk and asked if she had any "way larger" sizes. Ha! :) Every girl within a 20 foot radius giggled and smiled. That was such a compliment I looked past the fact that it was a relatively dumb question.

by maecuff

I mean really...something feels SO good that you feel compelled to scratch the sh*t out of your partner? That just doesn't make sense to me.

Then again, maybe I'm missing something.

by nicknielsen

A friend of mine from the USAF had breast reduction surgery on the advice of her doctor; she went from an F or G to a D-cup. Three months later all her back problems had disappeared, including her husband! :D

We later heard that he bought his new wife a set in size OMFG (Oh my fecking gawd!). Sarah (our friend and his ex) said he was compensating in his spouse for his own shortcomings... :^0

by maecuff

After I got divorced, my ex married a blond woman with big boobs (just 3 months after the divorce was final).

Then he died.

by av .

Miss Plastic? In the US that probably means women with credit cards that use them a LOT. :^0

Either way, no pageant necessary.

AV

by maecuff

I don't like to brag.

And I don't use my powers often.

My son's former stepmom died last year as well. I really disliked her. She was mean to my son when he was little and I can carry a grudge for a long time.

Anyway, it occurred to me that since they both died last year, and I hated them both..then that must mean that I am a diety. The guy who sits next to mean promised to always be nice to me. Just in case. I told him that if I wished it hard enough, my enemies will die. And it works! I just have no control over the timing. :)

by forum surfer

Just the same, I have been victimized. One stood out from the rest. I didn't realize it until the adrenaline died down later. I seriously contemplated getting stitches. Left scars actually, I was (still am) quite pissed. It was in the middle of summer so taking my shirt off in public (beach, lake and such) always got giggles and omg's. I even had to tell my son I was attacked by a stray cat.

The woman had issues though. She also had a choking fantasy. She was a crazy little Irish red head. Quite the disturbing little lass. Luckily she was a nurse so after she hurt me she at least gave me triage.

I think some women just clench guys involuntarily. The scratching is a byproduct of well kept nails.

As for me...if the woman stays away from the uncontrollable clenching of the toes and avoids looking at the expressions on my face, she'll come out unharmed. The only other weird gimmick I have going on is a recent development. Since I joined a gym and got into better shape, my triceps (oddly just the left one) spasms during those special moments...visibly. To the point where she actually stares at it when it happens.

:)

by jck

I don't even have to ask. I already know the answer to that question. I've been told. ;)

by jck

It was just the logistics of being vertical, and...well...anyways...suffices to say, I healed up fine. :)

by jck

I'd have reached down and scratched near my knee on the way out just for a laugh. :^0

by santeewelding

Until I read an account in the October issue, Journal of Emergency Medicine, about a chrome-plated, hardened steel ring.

It described how the ring had to be cut off by means of a high-speed die grinder, using a laryngoscope blade, ice water, and morphine -- that last in case things went wrong.

Color photographs.

by jck

Any well equipped hospital has shearing device (i don't know the technical/trade name) which is like a metal shear/bolt cutter that has a small plate that can be slipped behind the site of use to prevent tissue damage.

Using a grinder is so 1980s. Oh well.

A big ouch! for the guy who had to endure that.

by santeewelding

Rockwell scale equivalent to the blades of a shear.

There is also the near-explosive moment of separation, accompanied by violent motion, when the material parts.

"Any" hospital maintenance department, which is where they got the (wimpy electric) die grinder, would not usually keep the powered hydraulic version of shears that might have done it, save for destroying the blades.

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