go figure..

I don't care if I hear the usual crap about being defensive about America, but you're way off. I abhor such actions, but it's no more "Americans" doing it than it is "Arabs".

I'll correct your one sentence message as follows:

Radical environmentalist terrorists are as bomb happy as Islamic Terrorists.

Moreover, even though I fall squarely opposite the radical environmentalist movement, and not only do I abhor those tactics, but I disagree with most of their positions, even I will admit that the corrected statement is a huge stretch.

You missed the mark on this one, jaqui.

Greenpeace didn't run around bombing anything, they put themselves into the way of danger to stop nuclear testing..to stop whaling... they never blew anything up.
[ that took the french government..in the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior.

big difference between a nutter and a terrorist.

So as inline with Jaqui's quote (starting the thread) you find that -All Australians are bomb happy / mentally challenged / environmental nutters - , I guess (and truly hope) not.

And yes some of them are willing to give their lives to make their point, I do not approve (neither the way they try to do it nor to all of their opinions), but I do like their engagement.

Would sure love to see this kind of engagement with my employees as regarding to their jobs. :)

Rob

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...of the left-wing radical flavor:

The Earth Liberation Front (ELF) is an [b] international [/b]underground organization consisting of autonomous groups of people who carry out direct action according to the ELF guidelines. It was [b]founded in 1992 in Brighton, England [/b]by Earth First! members who refused to abandon criminal acts as a tactic when others wished to move Earth First! into the mainstream. The group jumped to North America in the mid-90's.

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=41

The Liberation Front of Quebec:

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=3490

The Canadian Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation:

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=3977

The original Animal Liberation Front (ALF) formed in England in 1976....

http://www.tkb.org/Group.jsp?groupID=14

However, to compare any of THESE groups to Islamic terrorists is ALSO ridiculous.

You said, "...blaming everyone in the middle east for the actions of the terrorist extremists..."

Who's doing that? It's certainly not me -- or President Bush, who you so freely love to hate.

In fact, President Bush has been taking heat lately for just the opposite!

Geesh, you people are weird.

"American Terrorists" not just "Americans". I am not an American, and have no axe to grind here. I think it is simply wrong to generalize to mean "ALL" the Americans blow up stuff.

The common American man is as good or bad as any other man in any other part of the world. Most of the Americans I have met are very nice people and would'nt think about hurting others.

You can't compare them to Islamic Terrorists. You can't put them in the same catagory as earth firsters, who only kill by accident.

As for MIPT - If they are running under the understanding that the FLQ still exist, well they need to do some more research, but that isn't what I was disagreeing with.

James

And I don't care who says otherwise. They had their day and their excesses turned off even most of the extreme separtists who might have been sympathetic to them. Occasionally some wingnut will spray paint one of the old slogans somewhere. The last one who did it and got caught was sentenced to cleaning up his mess and pulled some jail time, somewhere between six to nine months, if I remember correctly. That was about five years ago. Even the Rose brothers who led in the capture of the British diplomat, James Cross, have now disavowed their act as being stupid and pointless. The PQ party or Parti Quebecois have disowned them. There are stilll some of the old guard wandering around muttering their slogans but nearly everyone, both English and French, ridicules them and laughs at them.

[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)

Who said that the "US hasn't produced its fair share of nut jobs"?

Talk about reading something that wasn't there. Get real, dawg!

People who hadn't been found guilty of a crime in any court were killed by Federal officials acting as executioners under Clinton/Reno.

That is terrorism, the government attacking its own citizens. Killing an unarmed woman and her baby...

Burning people to death and destoying a group of people that the government could infiltrate...

what did each blow up?
and what explosive was used?

it's easy to list names.

btw, I'm not wrong, unless the us media is wrong in painting all muslims, and everyone from the middle east as terroists.

and that is exactly what the us media has done.

until they publicy retract their inflamatory reports, and PAY DAMAGES to the people killed by the wars bush started over it, then americans are bomb happy in the same way as the islamic people and those in the middle east are all terrorists.

I knew that if I thought about it - it has been 36 years. Pierre Laporte was the Minister of Labour - he was the one killed, (and no, didn't need to look that up).

I remember that time well. I was a kid and it made an impression to see soldiers in my city standing on the corner with Sten guns.

I remember reading of the abuses. I remember how the mayor of Vancouver used the war measures act powers (essentially martial law) to jail anyone and everyone he wanted). Hundreds of suspected drug dealers, homeless people, petty thieves were rounded up and held for the duration (about a month if I recall).

James