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By jck ·
From the BBC News website -

Last Updated: Thursday, 10 August 2006, 11:37 GMT 12:37 UK

'Airlines terror plot' disrupted

A plot to **** up planes in flight from the UK to the US and commit "mass murder on an unimaginable scale" has been disrupted, Scotland Yard has said.
It is thought the plan was to detonate explosive devices smuggled in hand luggage on to as many as 10 aircraft.

Police are searching premises after 21 people were arrested. Home Secretary John Reid said they believed the "main players" were accounted for.

High security is causing delays at all UK airports.

The threat level to the UK has been raised by MI5 to critical after the arrests in London, High Wycombe and Birmingham.

Critical threat level - the highest - means "an attack is expected imminently and indicates an extremely high level of threat to the UK".

Three US airlines are believed to have been targeted.

Mr Reid said had the attack gone ahead it would have caused a loss of life of "unprecedented scale".

He said they were "confident" the main players were in custody, but neither the police nor government are "in any way complacent".

BBC security correspondent Gordon Corera said the plot was thought to have involved a series of "waves" of simultaneous attacks, targeting three planes each time.

He also said the plan "revolved around liquids of some kind".

"Officials say the explosives would have been sophisticated and extremely effective," our correspondent said.

Meanwhile, Heathrow Airport has been closed to all incoming flights that are not already in the air, while several outbound services have been cancelled.

The airport is crammed with thousands of passengers, while at Stansted more than 2,000 people are queuing to pass through customs.

Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson said the alleged plotters had intended "mass murder on an unimaginable scale".

"We are confident that we have disrupted a plan by terrorists to cause untold death and destruction and to commit, quite frankly, mass murder," he said.

"We believe that the terrorists' aim was to smuggle explosives on to aeroplanes in hand luggage and to detonate these in flight. We also believe that the intended targets were flights from the United Kingdom to the United States of America."

Police had spoken to a "good number of community leaders to make them aware that a major operation was under way," he added.

Head of the Met's anti-terrorist branch Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke said the investigation had had "global dimensions" and had seen an "unprecedented level" of surveillance.

The decision to take action had been taken on Wednesday night, he added.

According to BBC sources the "principal characters" suspected of being involved in the plot were British-born. There are also understood to be links to Pakistan.

A big thanks to you British for a fine job

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by Tig2 In reply to God, I love you Brits

A fine job and our gratitude to the UK!

Will this ever stop?

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just a couple of points....

by gadgetgirl In reply to God, I love you Brits

1. There was no way I was going to put "You're Welcome", that's not for me to do, but you are, anyways.

2. Have you seen the list of "allowed" hand luggage?

In case you haven't... it's here...

Two points: Just tell me WHICH female is not going to be embarrassed all to **** walking around the departure side of an airport showing off her tampons in a clear sided carrier bag?? Ok, we know you know we use 'em, but do we HAVE to give you ABSOLUTE CONFIRMATION that we're needing them RIGHT NOW? Sheesh. Surely a sealed unit/pack, sealed by a member of security would be enough???

And: they're allowing prescription meds, yes, ok. What about over-the-counter meds? Personally, I take medication which can be either; I actually buy it over the counter in a large box, as the limitation on the number you can get on prescription isn't cost effective. There is no indication at all if they can be taken as hand luggage.

Don't get me wrong, here, I'm not knocking the Boys in Blue, they're doing a wonderful job, and I'm proud of them and that they stopped anything this horrendous coming to fruition. But considering MI5's "Critical Level" has always been in place, and the hand luggage option was always there, why hasn't a more practical or hands-on approach been taken?

oh, and it may amuse you to know that although everyone in the queues is miffed but calm, there are one or two who had a shouting session at airport staff this morning, sometime between 0200 and 0600 UK BST.....

some men from "over the pond" insisted on their right to take their laptops as hand luggage, as well as their mobile phones and briefcases...

they didn't succeed.....!!

London is still hardest hit, currently Heathrow closed to everything but planes in the air at the moment, Gatwick on restrictions, same as Stansted and Luton.

Being in the North has it's advantages..... delays only, even though flights to London are grounded (well, we have trains, anyway, terrorists won't stop us)

But, yes, the Boys in Blue did a fine job - and are still doing so.


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by jck In reply to just a couple of points.. ...

But, it's better than they have in Israel where all the airport police are armed with automatic weapons (because they're military) and are not afraid at any moment to stop you, and search everything you have.

As for the feminine product thing...better for them to show you have those...than...well...let's say battery powered devices

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you've never seen an episode of Airport?

by mjwx In reply to sucks...

British Airport security carry Automatic's and so do the Australians. I was once in line at the metal detector not so long ago when the x-ray detected something (I dont know what it was) in an American man's bag (could tell by the accent), 4 AFP brandishing MP5's almost immediatly decendend apon the guy and said "you'll have to come with us sir".

Something tells me this guy was not a terrorist but probably had something in his bag that wasnt allowed on an Aussie flight. Like in the Airport episode, a texan was traveling to the UK with bullets in his bag (quiet accidentilly). There is a large list of thing you are not allowed to take on a plane, from lighters to Amunition. Lighters and aerosol cans get confiscated at the metal detector/x-ray station as do scisors, matches, nail-files and so on. Things like bottles of flamables may warent a visit from security, so I'm guessing this guy had a bullet or bottle of metholated spritis.

Airport security is nothing new here, they have had armories and police contigents for some time.

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yeah...seen it...

by jck In reply to you've never seen an epis ...

Used to watch it a lot.

I love seeing the drunk idiots. I've always prayed I would get to come to the rescue of some cute gate attendant when one of those idiots goes off.

But all over the world at airports is more military-ish than here...we have to worry about hurting peoples' feelings here in the USA, you know.

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thats why

by mjwx In reply to yeah...seen it...

they always call you "sir" when draging you off.

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You think that is bad GG?

by jdclyde In reply to just a couple of points.. ...

I remember when I was about 10, my bud HAD to go to the store to get his mom some. :0

She gave us money for food if we did it. So the lowdown was I would take them to the counter and he would pay. I waited till the store was empty and no one was at the counter, grabbed them, set 'em on the counter and walked away. SAFE! My bud had to sit there and pay. Double bag that please.....

This was twice as hard on him as he was always the shy type!

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At least you have updated lists

by Maevinn In reply to just a couple of points.. ...

I'm supposed to fly on Saturday, with a laptop, and can't find a durned thing to indicate if it needs to be checked. Water? Yes, can't have that...But the TSA site here doesn't meantion laptops or other electronics. I'll probably end up finding a larger duffel to stow it and my other stuff into, since I know I won't be working on the flight.

Edit to add: And I too am thankful that tragedy was averted!

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by gadgetgirl In reply to At least you have updated ...

At the moment, this is predominantly UK to US flights. I would think something more forthcoming and concrete would show your side sometime tomorrow.

Keep checking the BBC news site, and if you go onto the link I put in my previous post, that actually takes you to the Department of Transport site, and the actual advisory.

Where are you flying to? You need to ensure if it's London, especially Heathrow, that things are back on track there.

Let me know if I can be of any help.

Safe home, anyway


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Mavyn, here, quick!

by gadgetgirl In reply to At least you have updated ...

GWB should be on your screens NOW with the latest..... should have started about 5 mins ago....

(around 1700 hrs UK BST)


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