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    Happy St. Pat’s! The Guinness story pt.1

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    by oz_media ·

    On the last day of December 1759 a determined young man named Arthur Guinness rode through the gate of an old, dilapidated and ill-equipped brewery sited on a small strip of land on Dublin’s James’s Street. He had just signed a lease on the property for 9,000 years at ?45 per annum. His friends shook their heads in disbelief. For ten years, Mark Rainsford’s Ale Brewery (for such it was) had been on the Market and nobody had shown any interest in it. The Street was already festooned with similar small breweries, all attracted to this spot by a good supply of water.

    Throughout the city of Dublin there were about 70 breweries at that time, all, it must be assumed, small. Mr. Guinness’s newly acquired brewery was no more than average. But Arthur was about to change all of that. He was 34 years old. He knew that the products of this teeming, almost domestic, industry were highly unsatisfactory.

    Trade fell off badly when import regulations which favoured the London Porter breweries, were prolonged. At that time, beer was almost unknown in rural Ireland where whiskey, gin and poteen were the alcoholic drinks most readily available.

    In spite of this and the poor quality of beer available in larger centers like Dublin, it was recognised, paradoxically, that brewing – although constantly under threat from imports – was probably the most prosperous of the very few industries in Ireland at that time. In addition to ales, Arthur Guinness brewed a beer relatively new to Ireland that contained roasted barley which gave it a characteristically dark colour. This brew became known as “porter” so named because of its popularity with the porters and stevedores of Covent Garden and Billingsgate in London. “Porter” had been developed in London some years earlier and was imported into Dublin to the detriment of local brews. Arthur Guinness finally had to choose between porter or the traditional Dublin Ales.

    Deciding to tackle the English at their own game, Arthur tried his hand at porter. He brewed the deep, rich beverage so well that he eventually ousted all imports from the Irish market, captured a share of the English trade and revolutionised the brewing industry.

    The word Stout was added in the early 1820’s as an adjective, qualifying the noun “porter”. An “extra stout porter” was a stronger and more full bodied variety. “Stout” evolved as a noun in its own right, as did the family name of Guinness. In 1825 GUINNESS Stout was available abroad and by 1838, GUINNESS St. James’s Gate Brewery was the largest in Ireland. In 1881, the annual production of GUINNESS brewed had surpassed one million barrels a year and by 1914, St. James’s Gate was the worlds largest brewery.

    Today, Arthur Guinness would have been proud of St. James’s Gate. No longer the largest (although still the largest Stout brewery) it is certainly one of the most modern breweries. GUINNESS is now also brewed in 35 other countries around the world, but all these overseas brews must contain a flavoured extract brewed at St. James’s Gate. So the very special brewing skills of Arthur’s brewery, remain at the heart of every one of the 10 million pints of GUINNESS enjoyed every day across the world.

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    • #3352130

      Guinness part II

      by oz_media ·

      In reply to Happy St. Pat’s! The Guinness story pt.1

      Lions Gate Bridge

      In the early 1930?s, the Guinness family had become interested in investing in West Vancouver as a place for development. Acting on the behalf of the Guiness family, a syndicate named the British Pacific Properties Co. made negotiations with the Municipality to purchase 4,000 acres of West Vancouver land. In 1932, the deal went through for a total cost of $75,000, a price that worked out to $18.75 an acre. As a part of the deal, the company had committed to build all roads, water lines, water tanks, a school, a and golf course.

      Yet, even with all the amenities that they had committed to build, the Guiness family knew that the success of their investment depended on getting better accessibility to the area. Thus, a proposal was made to create a new bridge to link to Vancouver. The details of the plan such as where it was to be built and the number of lanes were controversial issues and met strong protest. Yet, the benefits of having a bridge outweighed the protests, as it would create jobs and stimulate growth. So, construction work was allowed to go ahead beginning on March 31, 1937. After a year and a half of construction, the bridge was ready for operation.

      The newly constructed bridge differed from the current configuration of the bridge as it originally only two lanes. Yet, as had been foreseen, West Vancouver?s population boomed as a result of the new connection. Thus, to accommodate the increased population, the lanes were divided up into three with the middle lane acting as a passing lane. Another difference with the original configuration was that in an effort to recover the expenditure it cost to build the bridge, the Guiness family had toll booths installed. The toll booths remained on the bridge until 1963, at which time the bridge was purchased by the provincial government for the same price that it took to build it. Changes were made shortly after the takeover, as the tolls were removed and the overhead lane controls were added. The Guiness? last involvement with the bridge happened in 1986, when they added lights to the bridge as an Expo 86 gift.

      [i]So without this ‘pot of gold’ that the Guinness family had provided for Notrh Vancouver residents, our friend Jaqui would most likely have no home[/i] 😀

      Cheers to the Guinness Family for one of Vancouvers most noted landmarks and the best Dark Stout on the planet!

      Happy St. Patricks Day!

      • #3330974

        Irish humor

        by pgm554 ·

        In reply to Guinness part II

        There was a fire in one of the local pubs in Ireland and one of the locals, Paddy, refused to leave the bar until he finished his drink. Well, with fire being what it is and Paddy being what he was, the local undertaker had himself a new customer.

        But before Paddy could be buried, his body had to be identified.

        Paddy had two friends of whom he had hoisted a few pints with from time to time ,so his first friend upon seeing the body made the remark that it was terribly burnt up and asked that the undertaker roll the body over. To the undertaker?s dismay, the first friend said that it wasn?t Paddy.
        The second friend also viewed the body and made the comment that it was very badly burnt also. He also asked that the body be turned over. To the undertaker?s dismay, he also said that it wasn?t Paddy.

        The under taker asked the both of them how they could be so sure that it wasn?t Paddy.
        To which they replied that Paddy had two assholes and that is the reason why they had the undertaker turn him over for the identification.

        The undertaker asked them how they knew Paddy had two assholes.
        To which they replied that every time that they walked into the pub with him, somebody would say ?Hey look, its Paddy with them two assholes!?

      • #3330838

        Is that correct?

        by fonken monken uk ·

        In reply to Guinness part II

        Oz mate – just a bit confused – I swear when you do the tour at St James gate, they tell you that although Guinness production was the biggest there for some time, and stout as well, its now the other Guinness brewery in Lagos that superceeds it!

        Honestly Gov! And I’d not had that much of the free sample when they told us that!

        • #3325759

          Found it here

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Is that correct?

          But this webpage is a collection of ‘Guinness Facts’ that seem to be gathered from the Guinness…hmmmmmmm.

          http://webpages.marshall.edu/~bennett7/guinness/guinstor.htm

          The Guinness website is FAR too flash heavy to me easily read through and confirm it, right now anyway.

          But I did find THIS page, more humour than anything else, that states the Lagos Brewery as th esecond largest, as of Sept. 20034

          http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=18250

          [i]”The INQ hears rumours that Ireland might be surpassed as the biggest consumer of Guinness. Anecdotal evidence suggests a Guinness plant in Lagos, Nigeria is going great guns and is already the second largest Guinness brewer”
          [/i]

    • #3352097

      Erin go Braless

      by bhunsinger ·

      In reply to Happy St. Pat’s! The Guinness story pt.1

      As we say on this day In Cleveland. Even if we don’t drink

    • #3352094

      Poteen?

      by gralfus ·

      In reply to Happy St. Pat’s! The Guinness story pt.1

      I’ll 2nd your cheers to the Guinness family.
      You mentioned something called poteen. I’d never heard of poteen before. Is it comparable to another liquor?

      • #3331050

        Moonshine!

        by neilb@uk ·

        In reply to Poteen?

        I had a drink of it once and I think I detached a retina!

        • #3331027

          Poteen

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Moonshine!

          While it wasn’t really considered moonshine in Ireland, Poteen distilled PRIVATELY was considered Irish Moonshine in the US. Again that was PRIVATE and unregulated distilling.

          Basically it’s a potatoe mash alcohol similar to high alcohol ‘grain alcohol’. Fire water!

        • #3330980

          Ode to Poteen

          by jessie ·

          In reply to Poteen

          MOUNTAIN DEW by Irish Folk Band “Poteen”
          http://www.geocities.com/poteen02/

          LET THE GRASSES GROW
          AND THE WATERS FLOW
          IN A FREE AND EASY WAY
          BUT GIVE ME ENOUGH
          OF THE RARE OLD STUFF
          THAT THEY BREW NEAR GALWAY BAY

          AND POLICEMEN ALL
          FROM DONEGAL
          SLIGO AND LEITRIM TOO
          WE’LL GIVE THEM THE SLIP
          AND WE’LL TAKE A SIP
          OF THE RARE OLD MOUNTAIN DEW

          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day

          THERE’S A NEAT LITTLE STILL
          AT THE FOOT OF THE HILL
          WHERE THE SMOKE CURLS UP TO THE SKY
          BY A WHIFF OF THE SMELL
          YOU CAN PLAINLY TELL
          THAT THERE’S POTEEN BREWING NEAR BY

          FOR IT FILLS THE AIR
          WITH A ODOUR RARE
          THAT BETWIXT BOTH ME AND YOU
          AS HOME WE ROAM
          YOU CAN TAKE A BOWL
          OR A BUCKET OF THE MOUNTAIN DEW

          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day

          NOW LEARNED MEN WHO USE THE PEN
          HAVE WROTE THE PRAISES HIGH
          OF THE RARE POTEEN FROM IRELAND GREEN
          DISTILLED FROM WHEAT AND RYE

          AWAY WITH YOUR PILLS
          THAT WILL CURE ALL ILL’S
          BE A PAGAN, A CHRISTIAN, OR JEW
          TAKE OFF YOUR COAT AND GREASE YOUR THROAT
          WITH A BUCKET FULL OF MOUNTAIN DEW

          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day

          LET THE GRASSES GROW
          AND THE WATERS FLOW
          IN A FREE AND EASY WAY
          BUT GIVE ME ENOUGH
          OF THE RARE OLD STUFF
          THAT THEY BREW NEAR GALWAY BAY
          AND POLICEMEN ALL
          FROM DONEGAL
          SLIGO AND LEITRIM TOO
          WE’LL GIVE THEM THE SLIP
          AND WE’LL TAKE A SIP
          OF THE RARE OLD MOUNTAIN DEW

          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day

        • #3330979

          I hope you copied and pasted that

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Ode to Poteen

          Jessie, tell me you didn’t actually type that out!

          Can you imagine what would have happened if I tried typing that out repeatedly??

          “Ih-eth-DIlle-yI-lldi-mud-dille-ydoodle-ilidd-mu, dillledy-ood-diddlye-d-dday !

          😀

          Geez, I’m going for a bit of a fresh air hike for an hour or so, GOOD thing I have an MP3 player! I’d end up inadvertently ‘jigging’ down the road and smiling away happily. While thinking;
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-dum, diddley-doodle-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day
          Hi-the-diddley-I-dill-um, diddley-doo-dill-I-dill-um, diddley- doo-ri-diddley-di-day

          I am surprised I didn’t get a typo in there even as a Cut and Paste! 😀

        • #3330970

          hehehe

          by jessie ·

          In reply to I hope you copied and pasted that

          Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V are my FRIENDS!!! but now I can happily drive home thinking about you jigging down the road and smiling away happily. Have a great day!

        • #3330875

          Never saw the words to the stanzas before but I’ve heard it with a chorus.

          by sleepin’dawg ·

          In reply to hehehe

          “Give me some good ol’ mountain dew
          Them’s that refuse it are few
          Well I’ll shut up my mug
          If you slip me a jug
          Of that good ol’ mountain dew.”

          They probably came up with it after repeated efforts at Hi diddley diddle piddle and poop or whatever. I wouldn’t even try to cut and paste all that. :^O I also think there are a few more verses but at this point I can’t think straight for laughing. 😀

          Dawg 😉

        • #3330867

          Oh no

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to hehehe

          Not ANOTHER woman who thinks of me on her way home to her husband!
          LOL 😀

        • #3330865

          okay Dawg

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to hehehe

          You an easterner, how about;

          [i]I’s the b’y that builds the boat,
          and I’s the b’y that sails her,
          I’s the b’y that catches the fish,
          And takes then home to ‘lizer.

          cho: Swing your partner, Sally Tibbo,
          Swing your partner, Sally Brown,
          Fogo, Twillingate, Morton’s Harbour,
          All around the circle[/i]

          Danm, now I gotta hear some full on metal attack to clear THAT from my brain. Perhaps that’s a little TOO far East for you though.

        • #3330804

          I can just see the Court Case Now

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to hehehe

          OZ being named as corespondent in a divorce case and the description being given as:- Well I’ve never actually seen him let alone meet him but I’ve had numerous E-Mail contacts with him!

          He is known to Gig down the streets as he goes for a walk wears a green hat and can not go past the nearest public house even when it is closed as he just breaks in and helps himself.

          He has a tendency to like the less than legally brewed stuff which has been known to send people blind just by being near the stuff and if it could be made in commercial quantities would be a far more powerful fuel that is currently used on the Space Shuttle.

          Jessie’s husband would be claiming as grounds for divorce “Alienation of Affection” that way he doesn’t even need to prove that she has actually meet the bloke and will be horrified to find out that OZ is really a 65 year old bald woman with extremely bad habits so bad in fact that she was thrown out of the nunnery where she attempted to live when she saw the light. 🙂

          Col ]:)

        • #3325612

          Niiiice

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to hehehe

          The little happy leprechaun image was totally screwed up by the old lady image though.

          One minute I was drunk and cheerful, the next I was in a mumu with no life. shudder.

          Can it REALLY happen that fast?

        • #3325546

          OZ welcome to the Cyber World

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to hehehe

          Where nothing is as it is claimed. 😉

          I’m really a 10 year old with his dads computer and I’ve been let lose with it on an unsuspecting Internet. 🙂

          Col ]:)

        • #3322598

          10 years old?

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to hehehe

          Damn, and I thought you were a peer! I don’t normally play with older girls.

        • #3322524

          Good come back OZ

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to hehehe

          I’m still laughing so hard it’s almost impossible to type. 😀

          Col ]:)

    • #3330835

      I’d like to thank all the Americans that ever visited St James Gate….

      by fonken monken uk ·

      In reply to Happy St. Pat’s! The Guinness story pt.1

      especially the bar at the end of the tour, and your stringent drinking laws, that many of you seem to think apply in other countries!

      Friends and I caught onto a scam when last we were there.
      So you pay to get in, and you get your ticket, the stub of which entitles you to a free pint of the black stuff at the end of the tour, in the bar. So we’re sat there drinking our pints, and notice that all the american tourists (admitedly mainly the younger ones) would get their free pint, raise it in a toast for a photograph, put it down, then leave…..without even touching the nectar the glass contained!!!! Fools!!

      4 hours later I got out of that place, and headed for the nearest food outlet….well, I think I did.

      • #3330808

        After 4 hours on that stuff

        by hal 9000 ·

        In reply to I’d like to thank all the Americans that ever visited St James Gate….

        You couldn’t have even walked out you would have been legless and someone nice must have carried you out just so they could get the place cleaned up for the next load of tourists. 😀

        Col ]:)

        • #3330724

          exactly!

          by fonken monken uk ·

          In reply to After 4 hours on that stuff

          So my thanks is justified!!!

          But tis says nothing for the other biproduct of drinking guinnes (andI did manage to walk out, only drank about 5 pints), that magical effect of turning your poo into black syrup!

          Yuk!

        • #3325755

          I don’t get it

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to exactly!

          I have always seen Guinness as the easy to drink beer that you can just suck down endlessly. I can drink a lot mroe Guinness when compared to drinking the same amount of Canadian beer that would leave me floored.

          BUT, Guinness to me is not a beer for getting pissed on, it’s more of a meal in a glass, think Protein Shake without the weight loss. Guinness is a nice all natural beer, organic and hey, like Fonken Monken says, black pooh! If you don’t stand back and cringe when admiring that morning gift, well you just didn’t drink enouh.

          Guinness HERE is 4.5% (roughly, though it varies betweeen draught,canned or bottled)and some Canadian beers are hitting the high 7’s and even more when you get at the REALLY cheap firewater.
          But that is beer best for laying down and avoiding.

          Molson brews XXX which is best used for hand to hand combat, and Kokanee has a bouquet like an aboriginals armpit.

        • #3325709

          You must live in a PISS POOR place OZ

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to I don’t get it

          Over here for something to be called beer it has to be 8% and no less more is A OK but anything less is not tolerated and can bring massive legal action against the people responsible for making it. 🙂

          The only exception are the “Light” beers which can be 4% but they are not considered as real beers and are only drunk by those that we derogatorily refer to as “The Designated Driver” and even then they are only allowed to smell the stuff. For Gods sake even mouthwash has a higher alcohol content that 7%.

          Over here on St Paddy Day they don’t color the water green but some of the beer may be green but after you have drunk enough of the Guinness everything looks green and if it doesn’t you go back inside for some more until you finally get it right! 😉

          Col ]:)

        • #3322391

          LOL

          by fonken monken uk ·

          In reply to I don’t get it

          “Molson brews XXX which is best used for hand to hand combat” lol….nice one!

          To be hoenst, I didn’t walk in there with the intention of getting pissed. It was just so extremely easy to drink comapred to the stuff back in England. And I didn’t really know I was pissed until I stood up.

          That fresh air is a killer I tell you.

        • #3322322

          The killer in sunlight!

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to LOL

          You spend all afternoon on a sunny summer saturday at a dark, blacklit, stripper bar, you get just pickled watching peelers and don’t know it, then you and your buddy say ‘Hey, let’s go to the beach and hang out (meanwhile you’re already lobster red and peely from the morning on the boat, drinking & fishing)so you stagger outside of your pitch black haven with black lights and BAM, the sun is beating down on you, NORMAL people are everywhere and it takes everything you’ve got from screaming in pain and passing out.

          Yup, summer, I can’t wait!! 😀

          As for the hand to hand combat, it was taken from Monty Python’s -Australian Table Wine sketch, script as follows (hey you asked okay?!): AHEM…

          “A lot of people in this country pooh-pooh Australian table wines. This is a pity, as many fine Australian wines appeal not only to the Australian palette, but also to the cognoscenti of Great Britain.

          “Black Stump Bordeaux” is rightly praised as a peppermint flavoured Burgundy, whilst a good “Sydney Syrup” can rank with any of the world’s
          best sugary wines.

          “Chateau Bleu”, too, has won many prizes; not least for its taste, and its lingering afterburn.

          “Old Smokey, 1968” has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian wino society thouroughly recommends a 1970 “Coq du Rod Laver”, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: 8 bottles of this, and you’re really finished — at the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

          Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is “Perth Pink”. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is BEWARE!. This is not a wine for drinking — this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

          Another good fighting wine is “Melbourne Old-and-Yellow”, which is particularly heavy, and should be used only for hand-to-hand combat.

          Quite the reverse is true of “Chateau Chunder”, which is an Appelachian controle, specially grown for those keen on regurgitation — a fine wine which really opens up the sluices at both ends.

          Real emetic fans will also go for a “Hobart Muddy”, and a prize winning “Cuiver Reserve Chateau Bottled Nuit San Wagga Wagga”, which has a bouquet like an aborigine’s armpit.”

          “Now I don’t care WHO you are, that there’s DAMN FUNNY!!” – Larry The Cable Guy

      • #3325757

        Now that’s funny!

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to I’d like to thank all the Americans that ever visited St James Gate….

        They do have job opportunities available on their website…]:)

        Can I have a busboy’s position pleeeeeeeeease?

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