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Hear Ye, Hear Ye - NEIL WAS RIGHT. Maxwell was wrong

By maxwell edison ·

I stand corrected. Neil was RIGHT, while I was WRONG.

It would take a minimum of TWO years to get to the moon, assuming ALL focus was dedicated in that one and only direction, and assuming absolutely everything went right, while absolutely nothing went wrong; and that is the best case possible, although still highly unlikely.

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Well it had to happen sooner or later. I was going to comment earlier but..

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Hear Ye, Hear Ye - NEIL W ...

linking from here is sometimes problematic.

A minimum of two years??? More likely in the time frame of five to eight years. A new lunar module would have to be designed, most likely in sections which would require assembly in space as well a new lunar rover much lighter than the previous ones would require design and manufacture. All this would require endless testing. Forget about the Mars rovers; they are much too small and slow to accomodate a human.

No problem is insoluble if there are sufficient funds to throw at it and there is a real desire to go but from my experience that is the way I see it and while not a propulsion specialist I do some of my work in the space program and know that is just the tip of the iceberg of the problems which would have to be overcome. Oh yes, one other matter, forget the current shuttles, they're too obslete now. Think more in terms of rockets which would have the necessary throw weight, like the ones used for the Appolo missions.

Dawg ]:)

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by gadgetgirl In reply to Hear Ye, Hear Ye - NEIL W ...

I wonder how long it took for Neil to copy, print and frame the title of this discussion, before hanging it on his office wall!!!

Good on you Max.

You're a true gent.


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I would - in a way - have been happy to be wrong

by neilb@uk In reply to WOW!

Space exploration is one of my interests and it would have been good to discover that the US had more to their space exploration plans than can be seen on the surface.

I think that we, for the benefit of the whole species, need to get into space. I don't, though, think we should go to the Moon or Mars - just get up there to stay. We can't really rely on Bruce Willis or Robert Duvall to save us in the event of a "dinosaur-killer" asteroid heading our way again. And one will.

Putting one over on Max by finding out I'm right about this is a bit of a hollow victory.

But very welcome!


Neil :^O :^O :^O

p.s. GG, I would have hounded him to the Ends of Miscellaneous for an answer but he was, as you say, a True Gent in posting it as a new thread without prompting.

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Thank you, GG

by maxwell edison In reply to WOW!

Having a little fun with it is the best way to eat crow -- and with salt and pepper, of course.

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by gadgetgirl In reply to Thank you, GG

don't forget the garlic!!!


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as it

by rob mekel In reply to Max!

should be.

taking a bow @ Max for his gentlehood. And no GG it is not that.


Life is to short to not enjoy it

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And for the tough ones

by jdclyde In reply to Max!

nothing beats gravy! ;\

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Some Alternative Discussion Titles

by maxwell edison In reply to Hear Ye, Hear Ye - NEIL W ...

TO THE MOON (In your dreams)

To Infinity and Beyond (but not to the moon)

When I'm wrong, I admit it (dag nab it!)

Well, at least I learned something today (like a little humility)

Would you like a little green cheese on that sandwich? Sorry, no can do

When dealt a lemon, make lemonade (but no Tang for me)

Crawling out of the crater I dug for myself

I'm only wrong, but Neil's a Lunartic

We may be swingin' on a star, but we ain't walkin' on the moon (Credit to the late great Bing Crosby)

I'm walkin', yes indeed .... but not on the moon (Credit to the late great Fats Domino)

I wasn't even crescent-right

Talk about shooting the moon!

I'm singin' my loony tune today

I guess I was just a little moonstruck

Sorry, Maxwell, the honeymoon's over

Maybe it's time for me to just shuttle outta' here, now.

The only rover in our immediate future barks and has four legs

The only moonraker around here is on a 007 video

Maybe I'll just become a Lunarian -- But there's no way home!

I see a bad moon rising ..... and rising ..... and rising ..... and out of reach (Credit to John Fogerty)

Neil to Maxwell: POW, To the Moon, Maxwell! (Credit to the late great Jackie Gleason)

Anyone care to join me for a little moon pie?

Okay, even I'm wrong -- once in a blue moon

I might be wrong, but I'm still always "right"

And Neil's favorite:

If we can send a man to the moon, why can't we send a friggin' man to the moon?

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How could I forget my Beatles reference?

by maxwell edison In reply to Some Alternative Discussi ...

The only way we'll get to any kind of moon in the near future is in a Yellow Submarine

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That showed a lot of class Max

by sleepin'dawg In reply to Hear Ye, Hear Ye - NEIL W ...

I've got lots of respect for people who tell it like it is and are not afraid to admit when they've been in error. You showed a lot of class in the way you handled it.

Dawg ]:)

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