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by apotheon
by nicknielsen
You complained about the check box to "Keep me logged in." That check box is immediately under your password on the log-in screen.
If you don't like the default settings, change the settings. Now, it would be nice if you could change how the site handles your sessions and settings in your profile. If you could tell the site "Log me off" and "Keep me private" and have it apply to every window in every session, that might be nice.
by thumbsup2
"3. When switching to the questions area, keep it in questions. This annoys me like crazy. I look at a question, reply, and I am in discussions again. On slow load days it is especially annoying and I just stop trying to help."
I agree. And further, it's a PITA to be reading in the questions area looking for a certain topic. Maybe not posting, just reading. And, when you want to go back to the list of questions you have to click Forums, then questions.... again and again.
by w2ktechman
and have brought this up several times. It does not appear to be getting much attention.
So, I am rarely traversing the questions anymore. Or I will browse the topics and leave most of them alone.
by nodisalsi
The option to delete a post when the poster feels it is now inappropriate - or at least a single button asking admin to remove it which shows up instantly as "Original Poster now wishes they never said this".
The option to vote/rate a posting - not just Thumbs Up which only appears in answers to Questions. This will mean people won't have to submit a whole post just to say "great".
And separating the interface design and colour schemes from the content and coding. I am impressed at how well http://fastmail.fm has managed to do this with their webmail service.
You can't delete it, but you can edit it afterwards. At a minimum you can edit it and remove everything except a '.' in the title and body. However, it's usually considered polite to put "Edited" in the title, and include a comment about the changes or deletions in the body.
You should have seen the "points" system that we used before the "Thumbs Up". I still have a box of TR points around here somewhere. They make great snipe bait, and some cold-call toner salesmen will accept them in trade.
by boxfiddler Hot topic
by zlitocook
I really liked the old web site pre 2001 and could adjust to the new site but you lost me on the new web site. I have to dig into forums to find what I am looking for. Why not make it by profile and user driven.
As a user logs in if they have selected as a main profile to see forums or what ever that is their start page.
This is a big change why not let the person who logs in select the size and color of the site? It can be done and it is done on most web sites that use handy cap program
by absolutely
by links
Ditto to my title...
by nicknielsen
That page was one of the links under the "Suggestions" header in his workspace. He didn't like the question, so it became BS.
Got it now?
by cactus pete
The post titles are too large. They shouldn't be THAT many point sizes larger than the tags included.
The page is already SO busy, and there are already so many font sizes...
Ok, this is a biggie with me, as Im' on a slow rural dial up connection, I count myself lucky if I get mid to high 30s in the kbps count.
A good 70% of each page is the same, large grey area on the left and right (probably to do with outside the set page width), two columns on the right, two sets of banners on the top, what appears to be two sets of banner son the bottom - apart from the front entry page these are the same every bleeding page, and I have to down load them every bleeding time, and they make up about 70% of the page. This really slows things down, and means i don't really have time to open and look at every message, thus I can miss things or duplicate answers - I must rely on the main sense being in the message header to make it work opening the message itself.
Please, oh please, frames and set these out properly.
by apotheon
by links
Name the better ways - show us where they are.
I mainly use the forums, each page takes two ro three minutes to load, and most of that is loading all the scripts for the banners, and the columns that DON'T change when I click on a new post to read - why reload that all the time. Even if all they did was to use the frames within the forum thread, click on the header in the list and it opens in post opens in the window, it would do away with all this excess bandwidth. Sure it's nothing to those on broadband, but not everyone has broadband, or has it available. Frames does allow you to link to a page, the link takes you to the page in that frame.
There are ways to handle this within the scripts, or so I'm told. But this current process of waiting a couple of minutes to load crap that's already been downloaded is ridiculous, a nuisance, and bloody annoying.
I rarely visit the questions area now, because it takes too darn long to check what everyone else has said, before making any suggestions or helping people.
by links
I was asking about the question, not about what absolutely meant...so thanks for explaining the obvious...but not what i was really asking for...
To read every post in this thread, I'd need about four hours 117 post at two minutes per post, sometimes up to three minutes, is 234 minutes to download every post - and that means NOT doing anything else on line at that time, check mail and it'll take longer.
I wish I had that amount of time free, it may be OK for those with Broadband, what's another second or so, but not for the rest of us.
by nicknielsen
by w2ktechman
I also do not have Java installed and I block javascript completely.
This means though, that forums is unavailable to me and I can only find new posts from my comtacts. Also, there are other areas that I look at, which are blocked as well.
just the price to pay!
Now, as for questions. I have complained several times and never received any notice that it would change at all. So I browse them much less than previously.
The forums is what I mostly use and these options make them useless, that is - they make the situation worse. It also means I have to constantly be turning scripts on and off as their are other web sites I go to that are script dependent but aren't as horrendous as TR is in regards to the duplicated stuff. They have the front page, you click on the link for the board you want, and you have a totally new page - but they don't have any huge pile of ads either, and navigation means going back to the board to look at the thread headers or the higher level to go to another section of the site. If applied to TR, I'd need to open the main navigation page, then go from there to either discussions or questions, then go from those to the actual thread I'm looking at. I handle this simply by use the 'Open in New Tab' option - thus I have the main page, the thread header page and the the thread or post I'm reading open as different tabs. If the same process was applied in TR, I'd cut my TR downloading to about one fifth or less than what it is.
one example of what I mean is
by cactus pete
First, rather than reloading the page for each post, click on the "Print/View all posts" link and read as it loads.
Next, you might consider blocking known ad sites by editing your hosts file. Many people have compiled lists of hosts to stop:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ad+block+hosts&btnG=Google+Search
Good luck.
about an hour between when I click 'Print/View All' and when I have the screen ready to view if it's a long thread, like this one. Other forums manage to keep the ads to the front page and then let you wander around the site very simply and quickly, and when you open a post or thread, that's all you get, a new page with the thread headers, or the post given.
For some reason TR insists on having full navigation on every page opened, the same with the browse by stuff, and the ads - if they want them all static, then put the suckers in a frames set up and leave them there. Or have them at the start and forget them afterwards. I NEVER read the ads on any site past the front page, I've gone deeper because I want to find something specific, not the bleeding ads. I will usually scan the front page ads, but skip them if I notice the site ads are all for the USA as I can't make any use of them in Australia, not worth the cost.
by cactus pete
We've all pretty much conceded that TR needs the ad revenue, so it's hard to argue their decisions about ad placement. All ads are annoying, but we have to trust that they've considered it already.
But at least the ad will only load once it you view all...
Have you thought about satellite?
Overall, my son and I go through about 3 to 5 gig download each month, I also add about 1 gig of upload each month. With sat that gives us a 4 to 6 gig account - cost for that is about 20 times what we pay for dial up, and more than I earn a month at the moment. That kind of makes it a bit hard to swallow and do. And I haven't included the actual sat set up costs as I can get some govt help on that.
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If they must set up the ads on every page, then why not set it up with frames? The ads in one frame, the threads and posts in another, the navigation in a third. It's not so hard to do. And if I wish to reference someone to a post, so the link gives them the post and not the ads or navigation, is that such a big problem? I don't think so.
by danlm
Ok, I use the "My Updates" tag to keep me current. Because it is not the default tab, I usually click it to see any updates to topics I'm following. It seems to take forever to switch???
By the way, does it go to the latest post when you click off a link there? Or does it go to the head of the thread? (Dan would like the latest post to be truthful).
Is there a way to unsubscribe from updates to my posts? I keep getting the same ones over and over. It's a waste of my time. I actually just delete it anymore, and don't bother looking at it.
Dan
by apotheon
I'd like to see the origin date of a discussion added beside the "Started by" name. That way, when someone dredges up a two-year-old topic, we can tell if it's current.
Also, for those discussions that start from an article, blog entry, or other editorial content, it would be nice if a link could be added to original article, in addition to the link to first comment in the discussion.
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