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by hal 9000

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Now a lot of these miscellaneous discussions have been very heavy lately with the war in Iraq, talking about God and the Oath of Allegiance and the like how about some nice light stuff to talk about around the water cooler as Maxwell so eloquently described it?

What I propose here is that we have a chat about something that no one can take offence to and keep it light and good natured. So how about everyone listing their favourite comedies and we can all bash out wether UK or US make the best comedies?

But keep it good natured after all we don?t need to kill each other over something as unimportant as this.

Now my favourite comedies have to be

Absolutely Fabulous

The Goodies

The Goons {have to be in there as well}

Anti Jack {an old Aussie series that most of you will not have seen}

I know there must be others but that?s all I can think of right now and I really can?t think of any really funny ones from the US although there must have been a few and yes I know these are all old shows but as I?m a ?geek? I don?t get to watch much TV anymore because I haven?t bothered fitting an Ariel to the video capture card in this computer.

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by hal 9000

Always Marty Feldman and the Carry on Crew.

Now there wher two different shows that where really funny.

Not ot forget the the girls from St Trinnians either.

by jackofalltech

Oh man, those were great movies! My wife and I have been looking for those for years. It's been so long I don't remember any details, just that they were hysterically funny.

Ralph

by jimhm

I also enjoyed those shows - He was great - sometimes didn't understand that British "Dry" humor but - and in the US they had to cut out some scenes...

Funny - they will show someone getting shot on television over here - but can't see a nice set of Tits... go figure us Yank's

by hal 9000

I'm not even going to try as it is just too stupid but I suspose there is a reason for it.

But I'll take the Tits over seeing someone getting shot any day of the year.

by road-dog

this was a hilarious show about 4 college students. I watched this one wth my son during the show's run on MTV here in the states.

by maxwell edison

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Most of the lists I've seen in this regard are all limited to rock and roll guitar players, and most, if not all, of them put Jimi Hendrix at the top. (Although I've never understood why; I guess I've just never cared for Hendrix's style.) Hendrix was at the top of Rolling Stone Magazine's top 100 list recently.

There was a local radio talk show that took up that question a couple of years ago, and the host, one with rock and roll "blinders", totally berated a caller who suggested that Chet Atkins should at least be considered for any top-ten list. I've always liked Chet Atkins, but this particular host disagreed. I guess he didn't realize that Chet Atkins made Eric Clapton's list of the top ten, and that he (Chet Atkins) also released a duet guitar album with Mark Knopfler, who also makes many of the top ten lists. So I took challenge as well (although I didn't call in), because, in my opinion, Atkins belongs on the top of the list.

I consider myself very open-minded and diverse when it comes to music, as I like "almost" all genres - rock and roll (which is a pretty big umbrella), country-western, jazz, big-band, rhythm and blues, classical (also a pretty big umbrella), and a lot of "pop" from different eras. (A lot of you know my affinity for the Beatles, for example, but right now, as I type, I'm listening to Merle Haggard - man, no one can sing a country song like the Hag, except, of course, Conway ......or Loretta.......or Reba.........or George - Jones or Straight.....or.....)

My top-ten list of the best guitar players, living or dead (and, in some cases, why):

Disclaimer: Some of these may not be the absolute "best 10", but rather my personal favorites. Moreover, as I'm tired of shuffling the list, it is not necessarily in any descending or ascending order, but rather people who just made the list.

1. Chet Atkins - for the most part, people play one out of three guitar styles - the styles being lead, rhythm and bass. A really good guitar player can play two of them at the same time on the same guitar - bass and rhythm, or lead and rhythm, for example. But Chet Atkins could do all three at the same time. Music originating from his fingers could sound like three people playing, but it was only him. Moreover, he was selected by both Mark Knopfler and Eric Clapton as a guitar player they would select to play in any of their recording sessions.

2. Mark Knopfler (Dire Straights).

3. Stevie Ray Vaughan. One of the best, if not THE best, blues guitarists ever.

4. Eric Clapton.

5. B.B. King.

6. Roy Clark. Lightning Fingers, the title of one of his albums, describes his talent quite well.

7. George Harrison. Listen to some of his acoustic work on the recently released anthology CDs. He really could make his guitar "Gently Weep".

8. Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead). Did you know that Jerry Garcia plays the steal guitar on Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young's "Teach Your Children"? He was pretty diverse, and could play a lot of different styles.

9. Chuck Berry. Rock and Roll maybe started with this guy, and how many guitarists who came after him also became the "best" by emulating his style?

10. Les Paul - How could any list be complete without the person who invented the electric guitar? Besides, he was damn good.

P.S. I love to listen to good classical guitar, but don't know anyone in particular to put on the list.

P.P.S. I could easily put twenty names in my top-ten list.

by glosuph

i was pleased to see Roy made your top ten, even among country fans he's under appreciated as a guitarist and singer,Across the Great Divide,never fails to send a chill through my guts.BB,Stevie,Les,George,can't argue with your list.

by hal 9000

That lot are all bloody good "Axe Grinders" and I'm with Maxwell here I think I could easly fit 20 names iof not more into my top ten list.

However as far as Hendrix goes I think he gets there because he could still stand while he was so high, although I did like his rendition of The Star Spangled Banner.

by john_wills

The best guitar players were the Shadows and the best tune they played was Geoffrey Lordan's "Wonderful Land".

by oz_media

Damn that'll be hard, actually we could break this list a bit to make it fair. Perhapse best guitarist by genre?

Well,I can't pick a specific order bacause each seems to be top of his style but here's a shot at a few greats.

1) Randy Rhoads - Pioneered mixing classical and rock/metal guitar

2) Stevie Ray Vaugn - everything he did, thought or touched was a masterpiece

3) Jimi Hendrix - Popular for converting distortion in to harmonics, south paw playing right handed guitar strung upside down,

4)Mark Knopfler - Simply for his fret stretches

5) Zzack Wylde - Nobody cab squeak like Zzack

6) Angus Young - Bending the Gibson SG with those tiny hands

7) Combo of Glen Tipton and KK Downing - Nobody (I mean NOBODY) can duel solos together with the same harmonics

8) BBKing - 1 note, 25 mixed feelings

9)Bily Gibbons - Until I met this guy, I had little knowledge of what he was truly capable of, muccy waters and BB King should be proud.

10) MUST INCLUDE A BASSIST TOO! Steve Harris - a self taught phenomenon who mixes fingered and slap bass to front his band

What guitarist has EVER agreed that the number ten was enough, it must go to eleven!)

11)Alex Lifeson "The pride of Canada", forget about our PM.

by oz_media

I thought of Ted AND Peter but the list is only ten! I also forgot Jimmy Page, I think it would have been better if catagorized but the labels change from decade to decade so it's hard to even fit that way.

by dbertsche

I like your list Maxwell but Albert King and Eric Johnson would both be nice additions. It's hard to reduce it to just ten.

by maxwell edison

Ten isn't enough.

I've heard of Albert King - one of the "3 Kings" of the blues, but I'm not faimilar with Eric Johnson.

From the Cascade Blues Association:

"If the annals are ever logged as to who the most influential guitar greats of all time were, then there would be no question regarding the inclusion of the three "Kings" of the Blues: B.B., Freddie and Albert. There is little doubt of the impact that each of these artists brought to the future sounds of Blues, Soul and Rock 'n' Roll. Albert King was a master of the single-string attack and was intrigued by Blues performers that he heard while growing up outside of Memphis. In turn, he influenced a new generation of guitar players that would include the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton and Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Eric Johnson? I'll have to educate myself and look for some of his stuff. Thanks for the suggestion.

by thechas

My all time favorite comedy show is Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In.
Many of the skits are still classics.

For musical satire, I wish that professor Tom Lehrer was still producing new material.
Songs like "New Math" and Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" still bring a chuckle.

Chas

by maxwell edison

What's a bippie? I guess I'll have to look it up in my Funk and Wagnels.

Here comes da judge and sock it to me.

Richard Nixon saying sock it to me?? Very interesting.

Yes indeed, what a great show. (And Goldie Hawn - oo-la-la).

by thechas

I picked up 2 or 3 of Tom's albums over 20 years ago in the cut-out bins at Sound Goods records in the Chicago suburbs.

My albums are buried at the moment, so I can't check on the titles.

I also picked up the Rhino CD when it first came out a couple years ago.

Chas

by hal 9000

That I've forgotten over the years it was marvelious as well as very funny, and then there was also Canid Camera but I think that was copied from somewhere else or at least so I was informed in the strongest possible terms.

Any one know about that?

by jardinier

The UK:
To The Manor Born
Open All Hours
The Good Life
.... and so many more I'll have to search the archives of my hard drive.

The USA:
The Apartment
Some Like It Hot
.... and all those other wonderful comedies directed by Billy Wilder.

Gee, I've been into intense action, drama and sci-fi for so long now I've forgotten most of the comedies I used to love.

I'll get back to you later on this ...

by hal 9000

Yes Minister which became Yes Primeminister I'm told that just about every polly stopped to watch this when it was on. Seems that they could relate to it.

by mrbill-

What is your favorite SciFi show? My fav is B5. I still like to watch Star Trek (TOS). Also like(d) Star Gate SG-1, Firefly(JS is a genius, too bad the networks won't give a show enough time to develop), Farscape, Voyager, Enterprise, Buffy (I know this was not SciFi, but who can blame me for adding it). Anyone else have a list, maybe it will jog the cobwebs out of my head.

I did not mention Dr Who because I did not see too many of them, and the ones I did see did nothing for me, sorry.

by hal 9000

Discussion but I'l chime in here Sorry but Dr Who is a classic and needs to be worshiped for what it became instead of what it was originally susposed to be which was a history lesson for school kids and to make it interesting the good Dr was susposed to go through time backwards naturally to show different events in history well that was soon forgotten and became pure SiFi and then went on for neasrly 20 years I do believe that it was the longest running TV series ever produced at the time and probably still is.

Then there was the good old Star Treck which was never susposed to go anywhere acording to the Network Execs anyway pitty nobody told the public as it has become a cult thing now. While I liked all of the Star Treck series except the new Enterprise as I think it is a backward step and got away from Gene's original ideas maybe in time it will grow on me but what made Star Treck so good was the way that everyone was equial and there was only the best put forward with no infighting and some very complicated scripts into the bargin. The only real way to appreicate any Star Treck is to get the whol years series out on video and watch them one after the other and then you suddenly understand just why something happened 6 episodes ago. But if you rely on TV you'll never get the full story.

I'll leave the rest for some futhyre discussion though.

by oldefar

Victor Borge would have to be on my list for his humor and musical virtuosity.

Red Skelton is another all time favorite, and repeats of his shows from the 60's are as funny today as they were then.

Gilbert and Sullivan musicals, performed by almost anyone, are still excellent. I am certain the Lumberjack routines from Monty Python reflect exposure to them. Perhaps we need the Poohbah's list back?

Monty Python shows, as well as their movies, will certainly be classics for all times.

"Lunch With Soupy Sales" was a favorite, and I will always have smile in my heart for White Fang and Black Tooth.

The Three Stooges cannot be overlooked. Our parents all were sure that if the Ruskies didn't nuke us, we would kill each other imitating the Stooges.

Expanding to the written word, Samuel Clemens is my favorite funny guy, although Ben Franklin comes a close second.

by hal 9000

Is it just that we're getting older and no longer see "Whats Funny" anymore or that those old shows where Classics that will never be replaced?

I don't know if you got to see it in the US but there was also Faulty Towers another John Clease invention as well as movies like A fish called Wander and Fierce Creatures again with John Clease in them made in the US and both very funny.

by oldefar

I do remember Faulty Towers and A Fish Called Wanda. Problem was that Faulty Towers came on PBS, and the station was so far away that I could not get clear reception.

John Clease also did several "motivational" type films for various service industries covering the "right" and "wrong" way to deal with a customer. Funny and absolutely dead on!

As for getting older - it sure beats the alternative. :)

by it_cowboy

Here are some of my favourites...
The Goodies
The Young ones (although it took me a while to warm to the humour)
Open All Hours
Seinfeld
Mr Bean (very clever)
ALF
Dads Army

There was this US comedy back in the days of The Young Ones (mid 80's) called "Its your move". I haven't found anyone who can remember this, mighty funny though. About a lady with 2 teenage kids who has a boyfriend. The son of this lady and the bf hate each other and are always playing tricks on each other, does anyone remember that one?

by hal 9000

But I'm certian we never saw "Its Your Move" on this side of the pond. But the rest I know quite well and loved them all.

I did notice that the guy who played Neikl in the Young Ones has a new show that is going to start showing here soon so I just might have a look see at that one as well.

by oz_media

Can't belive I forgot that one !! I just picked up the scripts for the first eleven episodes, talk about classic.

I really wish they'd rerun it in Canada, THAT was funny S^&T!!

by dnvrtechgrrl

I have to agree. Ab Fab is the greatest I've seen in a long time. We are having a halloween party at work this year and I'm going as Bubble.

Work?! Well.. I get paid!

by hal 9000

Provided you dress like Bubble there won't be a problem but I wouldn't suggest acting like her at work well at least not most times anyway.

But every thing from the Saunders & French was brilliant wasn't it?

by dnvrtechgrrl

She does keep us laughing for hours though.
I have two seasons of AbFab and a few skits of French and Saunders on VHS.

Every once in a while I'll bring them up to work and load them up in the kitchen. The ladies will sit and watch during their lunch breaks.

You can hear them laughing clear up on the next floor!

And for future reference, I only act like any of them when I need to bolster spirits here. Along with IT and training, I've been designated "queen motivator and smile creator."

=)

by jimhm

Now there used to be some great stuff out there - R & M's Laugh In - Goldie with "Sock It to Me" - Monty Python's flying circus (SP) an British import to PBS channels - (and SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM) - Or SCTV from Canada - or Saturday Night Live ...

Where have they all gone...

by wordworker

For me it's been
Seinfeld
Cheers
I Love Lucy
Ab Fab (my wife's influence)
Laugh-in
MASH (early years)
Red Skelton Show

by hal 9000

Giving the water cooler time to regenerate I suspose we can all get back to kicking the sh1t out of it again but this is something that I prefer as everyone here is bringing up excelent shows that have long passed even their rerun airings and I think that's a pitty.

Currently there are very few really funny shows being made let alone shown.

by jellimonsta

Obviously Python is right up there on my list. I am also a big fan of the Marx brothers (mainly Harpo :) Benny Hill was always good for a chuckle though, as was Laurel & Hardy. I always did like slapstick.

by hal 9000

I thought that they where billant and then there where the Keystone Cops that where side splitting even if very few younger people even know what I'm talking about.

I must be getting really old because whenever I mention those boys I get a lot of strange looks and no comprehension as they have never heard of them. But what I do find interesting is that they have all heard of Chaplin.

by jimhm

How about a group that all men loved and women hated -

Moe - Larry and Curly - "Hey Moe he looks like a V8" - Nuk-nuk

by maxwell edison

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As an extenuation of my "Best Guitar Players" list, here's another couple of lists.

Okay, this one is, perhaps, a little more subjective. My criteria includes range of voice, clarity, establishing mood (as in Billie Holiday), style as it pertains to his/her genre (as in Van Morrison or Mick Jagger), and/or, what I might consider, raw talent. (You might say, man oh man, he/she really has a good voice)

Note: I will admit that some (but not all), singers who came into prominence within the last 15 years or so, and who may be deserving of mention, could be missing as I might be unfamiliar with them.

But here's my list of the top-ten male and female singers of the last century.

Top Ten Male Singers:

Frank Sinatra
Elvis Presley
Bobby Darrin
Burton Cummings (Best known as the lead singer for the Guess Who)
George Straight
Robert Goulet
Bing Crosby
Luciano Pavarotti
Nat King Cole
Perry Como

--------- Honorable Mention ----------

Elton John
Eric Clapton
Garth Brooks
Luther Vandross
Van Morrison
Engelbert Humperdink
Michael McDonald (Doobie Brothers and solo)
Stevie Wonder
Sam Cooke
Barry White
Lou Rawls
Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
David Blatt a.k.a. Jay Black (Jay and the Americans)
Freddie Mercury
Joe Cocker

Top Ten Female Singers:

Ella Fitzgearld
Billie Holliday
Celene Dion
Reba McEntire
Aretha Franklin
Dolly Parton
Linda Ronstadt
Whitney Houston
Peggy Lee
Patsy Cline

---------- Honorable Mention ----------

Stevie Nicks
Cher
Roberta Flack
EmmyLou Harris
Janis Joplin
Tina Turner
Deborah Harry
Grace Slick
Helen Reddy

(Yes, I left Barbra Streisand off my list. The only list of mine that she's on is my S%&# list.)

by maxwell edison

Re: This message and the one above about the Shadows being among the best guitar players.

I'm familiar with both Cliff Richard and The Shadows, albeit only somewhat familiar - and only by name, as I have one 1962 LP featuring them (Summer Holiday).

But from what I know about them, they were much bigger in Europe, specifically Great Britain, and they never really made a big splash in the United States, at least not that I recall or have seen in evidence. For example, neither Cliff Richard (solo) nor The Shadows ever made the top 100 in record sales or charted songs in any year. Thus my unfamiliarity with them.

But as far as the guitar players, I did intend for it to be a single player, not a group of them - or else I would have included the 50 guitars of Tommy Garrett. But perhaps I should have included Tony Mottola, both a solo player and a featured guitarist with Enoch Light. (Okay, Tony makes my honorable mention list.)

I'll have to pull out my lone Cliff Richard and The shadows LP and give it a spin.

Thanks for the suggestion.

(P.S. I'm 49)

by maecuff

Male

Roy Orbison
Elvis Presley
Frank Black
Otis Redding
Sam Cooke
Barry White
Carl Perkins
Johnny Cash
Chris Isaak
Robert Plant

Female

Patsy Cline
Annie Lennox
Chrissie Hynde
Cindy Lauper
Grace Jones
Aretha Franklin
Tina Turner
Tori Amos
Janis Joplin
Billie Holliday

by oz_media

That you actually included VOCALISTS instead of people who are deemed DIVA's but can;t really sing.

I was excpecting the whole, Christina, Britney, J-Lo thing. Nice to see that you didnt label them divas or even half assed singers.

Looking through you rlist though, I see many men that weren't really Singers but were good all round stars. Oribison is a legend (not too sure why yet) but to give him credit he is a good writer, but do you REALLY think he's a top ten male vocalist? Ritchie Sambora (Bon Jovis backup vocals) has a much better voice and two 1/2 octave range. Elvis I'll give you credit for because he was a singer and performer, not so much a songwriter though.

Patsy Cline, too nasal, how about Susie Quatro?

All in all, OK but a little biased towards your favs.

by john_wills

That Was The Week That Was, with Millicent Martin, etc. You had to be more or less au fait with politics from a UK perspective to follow it, but I was in those days.

by oz_media

Most successful US comedies are just spin offs of British comedies, so to choose between them is unfair.

<<>>

Monty Pythons Flying Circus- you just have to get it for it to be amusing.

The Two Ronnies

Absolutely Fabulous

Good Neighbours !!!

The Goodies !! Goody, goody yum yum !

Man About the House (US-Three's Company)

<<>>

This hour has 22 minutes (Great satire mainly on USA politics)

Friends - Great characters building and comedy timing

Sienfeld-Character creation

That 70's show - Flashback points !

Malcom in the Middle - nicely written

Really, modern comedy has gone downhill into a world of really badly written potty humor. I prefer the older classic comedies these days.

Carry on Gang, Benny Hill, Two Ronnies etc.

So with that said, "It's goodbye from me", "and it's goodbye from him"

by maxwell edison

I knew you would chime in (most welcomed too, I might add).

I knew it would be hard to limit it to ten, and I knew that different styles and musical tastes would demand different lists to be posted.

Interesting - we share three players on our lists.

By the way, Mark Knopfler lists as his mentor, none other than Chet Atkins. You must not be too familiar with him, or you would have included him on your top-(twelve) list. Not only did he do a fair amount of stuff on his own, but he was behind the scenes quite a bit playing in recording sessions without being listed as such.

Muccy Waters????

I know, Muddy Waters.

by oz_media

Chet Atkins I credit with for his ability, he just doesn't sit as an axe master with me. It's not the whole, 'he didn't play heavy metal' thing, it's more that I just didn't appreciate his music. I believe he has contributed many times over to the industry but it's not my bag.
The ONLY reason I added Mark was because of his finger stretches that most guitarists deem impossible.

As a big fan of the 1970' - 1980's hair bands and guitar rock era, there were so many that took the guitar to new levels, Steve Vai, Nikki Sixx, KK Downing/Adrian Smith, Eddie VanHapen (the hammer-on pioneer) etc. This comes up each year in all the mags and top100 lists etc. and it seems to change according to favorite POP music bands each year.

This year I think I saw the bassist from Fine Young Cannibals as number 1 bassist! Anyone who knows music, knows better than that.

It would be better if categorized but there are a LOT of questionable categories, is ZZTop a blues band or a rock band, they've even been a POP band!

Is RUSH, heavy metal, rock or mainsteam?

Too many years of phenomenal talent and too many categories to compare.

But I still love the blistering two guitar leads from the great 80's metal gods, Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, I'd put thier talents up against anyone's. Especially when compared to the garbage heavy mtal that's been trudging around North America since the NWOBHM ((New Wave of British Heavy Metal)in the late 70's and 80's.

by oz_media

Boobs over brains, well I guess that means that you prefer most women these days (ouch, I'll be shot for that). Boobs over brains.

by maecuff

Beavis and Butthead never fail to crack me up.

Kids in the Hall were also good (most of the time)

by oz_media

Beavis and Bitthead, I had a roommate at onetime who recorded them all, he left them behind when he moved so I get to have the laugh every now and then.

Stupid as hell, but so was I at their age.

by hal 9000

They did some brilliant stuff and I can never forget the "Big Brave Motorcyclist" gag that they did it is so right the way motorcycle riders who are brought down by a stupid car drivers are treateed in hospitals.

The there was always Ralph and Herbi.

by maecuff

Not only does Roy rate on my top ten, he is my number one pick. I think he has an outstanding voice, other worldly, beautiful...

And Patsy? Nasal? you're breaking my heart. Susie Quatro isn't bad. How about Dusty Springfield, Gillian Anderson.. As far as Britney, Christina, et al.. the only thing they have going for them is they look good in low rise jeans.

by oz_media

Sorry to down on Patsy Cline, I just feel that country singing is nasal and not structured vocals. I'm not saying country singers can't sing, but I find it is all sung in the same key, but hey, it's YOUR top ten not mine.

A new list...how many guys like low rise jeans?

by maxwell edison

..."country singing is nasal and not structured vocals."

Some of it may be, but not all of it.

Can you spell Reba McEntire?

by oz_media

How about music in the movies and stage shows.
Musicals and rock-operas.
I didn't pick ten because I aven't liked en, but there are classics.
>> Musicals <<

West Side story - I played a Jet

Annie - not saying who I played (no it wasn't Annies)

Oliver Twist - I played three different characters in three different plays, it is an old fav.

>> Rock Operas >>

Pink Floyd The Wall - Goes without saying

Quadrophenia - long lost WHO film

Dazed and Confused - Classic Zeppelin footage remastered (Damn, I forgot Jimmy Page in my guitarist list!)

Live after Death - Iron Maiden's Powerslave tour in 1983 (flashback)

AND OF COURSE...

THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!! (in the theatre, not the mindless DVD that virgin Rocky's don't understand)

by oz_media

Another post prompted me to another list that I think girls are unaware of.

Remember when spandex was cool? It was excellent until it became a fad and fat people started wearing it!

On Saturday I went to Vancouver to watch the BC Lions play Sask. The girls in Vancouver are second to none, anyone that's been there will attest to it. There were so many lowrise jeans and thongs on display that it was hard to focus on the game.

Here's my new list.
How many people think low rise jeans aer actually sexy. OK, I don't mean Christina or Vritney in their impeccably tailored jeans but the average girl/teen/woman. One thing I HATE is the fact that they detract from the lower back curve that used to be so well hugged by Levis and as a result make all girls have a wide looking ass or no ass at all. What is worse is when girls think I WANT to see their hip huggers or thongs that make their ass look like it is going through a bread slicer.

Do other guys actually find this sexy? Is it just women who think they look good?

Don't get me wrong, the right jeans on the right girl is a good thing. A trend that makes every ratbag virtually strip in front if you is just gross and it puts me off the others. Why do girls think that if someone looks sexy in something, they will too?

LowRise or Levis, what'll it be?

by road-dog

"Spandex is a privilege, not a right".

What gives me retina cramps is the girls nowadays who think that a HUGE belly hanging over the top of the low rise jeans with the half-top is something worth seeing. It's as if they believe that that little belly button ring is a cellulite cloaking device.

Just because someone maks that outfit in a size 16 doesn't mean you should buy it....or wear it in public.

by oz_media

That and the baggy inderwear that seems to squish out the back of their waistband like it is starving for air. if you don't have it, don't flaunt it.
Now I know that many will say that I'm no rippled ab prize either, but then again, I don't dress as if I am.

by 1stladytech

I don't like the low rise jeans, and I grew up with the hip huggers. At least those would stay on when you sat down. Yes, I agree that most women should not wear low rise jeans (girls also), too many of them look like a good Shetland mare. But I have always been partial to Wranglers - I guess they fit me better. The other thing is - when are both men and women going to understand that skin tight clothes are not attractive, even if your in shape. The girls of today should remember that illusion is your best asset. If you throw everything out there for everyone to see, why should anyone bother trying to find out if there is something else?

One of my favorite swimsuit cover-ups has always been a man's 16 or 17 inch neck french cuff dress shirt. Hang that over a bikini (not a thong) and then you have something. What do you think guys? BTW, after 2 kids, I still have a flat tummy.

Vickie

by hal 9000

Unfortunately the cloths designers of today don't understand this and are always rushing to get out the new "Fad" just to fill their bank accounts and what?s worse make most women feel inadequate because they don't look like a prepubescent 13 year old which is held up as the perfect example of the female form.

The typical designer doesn?t want breasts on their models because the cloths don?t hang right as if they never took the time to actually learn what they should be doing instead of just rushing out with what looks good in their accountants eyes. Cutting cloths properly is an art form which today unfortunately no one wants to learn or worse if they do it properly it uses more material which has to be cut properly on the bias or whatever as required this means that they use far more material to make the same item properly. Hence hipster jeans and the like.

The really sad thing here is that none of the designers actually understand how to make the most of the female form and attempt to work with models who just haven?t developed or worse still make them anorexic just so they can keep working.

If you want to see something interesting you should go into a fashion house just before a big show over here I used to work for Elna Sewing Machines and before the big Fashion Awards everyone would want their sewing machines serviced I almost had to sign the official secrets act in blood before I could get inside so I wouldn?t tell anyone else what they where making. That was a real laugh to me because as I was concerned all they where doing was sewing a few bits of fabric together and badly at that so I wasn?t the right person to talk to. I actually once said that to one of them and they where horrified. Oh for those days again back when I was working my way through Uni for the first time no pressure and never having everyone think you know it all which is clearly ridiculous.

I would almost kill for a life like that again.

by oz_media

One of my idols! He actually looks just like my brother or vice versa.

Fawlty Towers is a true classic, I won all thirteen episodes (not a big run) and watch them when I need a good laugh or when the F-All on on Sunday.

I also got a video (low budget) of Cleese in a program called "How to annoy people'it covers literally every way of pissing someone off and is truly funny, even though I don't think it made $100.00.

by oz_media

Did I done good?

I know what you're saying Maxwell, and I agree. I think most of the older country is far better than new, especially Rock/Counrty that just hurts to hear. As a collective, country nmusic is nasal, it comes from the roots of country. Southern states have a nasal accent, it's not an inability to sing just a style that bothers me.
I've always studied the breathing and projecting, then I hear some guy in a hat that is eight sizes too big singing with a nasal twangy drawl, I just can't appreciate it. I've met Kenny Rogers, Dolly Parton, The Oakridge Boys, Alabama and many others. I respect their hard work, they are fantastic and warm people but I find newer counrty is nasal. Sorry bout that, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

by oz_media

For all those that want to understand a little more about; Canada's Liberal Government, Medical, Anti-Americanism etc. Some dude has built a somewhat well researched site that covers everything in breif.
http://tinyurl.com/slso

The bottom of the page has an index link to see other topics. Not a shot at anyone just some info.

by maecuff

I agree, if you don't have the body for certain fashion, it looks ridiculous. But this doesn't just apply to women. Speedos (those tight little swim trunks) look terrible on all men, even the ripped ones.

by maecuff

And for that, I am thankful. I'm sure you're a hottie, but all you guys look silly in speedos

by hal 9000

By the way he played I always thought he was about to drop dead on stage whenever I watched him play {that was on stage and not necessarly with the axe that he was holding.}

Scott on the other hand I thought would live forever pitty that their new lead singer isn't anywhere near as funny as Scot was.

I can still remember how he got expeled from Churchie a private school over here I'm convinced if I wasn't going around with him I never would have got chucked out at the same time but that was my bad luck. But I remember very clearly Dr Roberts tearing off the blaser pocket of Angus's blaser and saying in front of the whole school at assembly "Som you are a failure now, you will always be a failure and never amount to anything!}

Now I for one could stand for failing as badly as Angus has without a single problem.

But what was really funny was that the school wouldn't sell him another Blaser and Tie several years latter when ACDC was getting big in AU so I just got my little brother to buy half a Dozen for Angus.

Several decades latter {or so it felt at the time} when they where touring AU he was invited back to Churchie as an honoured Past Student and held up as what you could become if you tried. Honestly for both Angus and myself it was all we could do not to burst out laughing when we remembered exactly how we had left that place.

by oz_media

I forgot you guys went to the same school, it was a really cool story to share.

I know that Bon Scott could NEVER be replaced, In my studio I still fly my ACDC banners at half mast (folded in half) on the anniversary of Bon's death. As for Brian Johnson, I've met him twice and find him to be really funny actually.
I know he's not the same clown on stage that Bon always loved to be but in life I think he's a pretty neat guy.

Thanks again for sharing your story, if you see Angus again, tell him what a great guy I am and how he needs me to help with his career. NOT!

OM

by hal 9000

Where an Americian with a British wife checks into the hotel after hours and pays to have the chief stay back and orders a Waldorf Sadil thta was taken directly and used in one of his training films without change and boy is it so right.

But even those training fuilms where worth watching and you laughed so much that it hurt by it did get the message across better than any other training films that I've ever seen.

by oz_media

I've seen a couple of the short training films he did but not all.

americans with the Waldorf salad was the second season I believe, around March 1972.

by hal 9000

Basel came out and said "I'm sorry but we're all out of Waldorf!"

Just the experssion on the customers face said it all.

by hal 9000

Department? I clearly remember her being told to buy a Lap Top and she bought a lap dog which fitted very nicely into her handbag and then the way she never actually took any notes only tried to remember them eventually they would come out but it was painful watching her attempt to get them out wasn't it?

by oz_media

It's a cheesy trailer Park show from the Canadian Maritimes (hate to admit I lived nearby at one time, not in a trailer though).

It's pretty rude and centered around two criminals who get into anything and implicate everyone else too. They grow pot, drive beater cars with no doors, drink like there's no tomorrow (one guys character ALWAYS has a Rum and Coke in had, ALWAYS!).

Pretty screwed up bunch but getting very popular here as an underground show.

by oz_media

I used to take care of his daughters car, he prefers the bus.

I actually auditioned for a new Cheech and Chong movie a few years ago, they couldn't get it into production though. Apparently it is being done now though through a different studio.

Yes I have all the films several sketches and a few stand-ups of Tommy Chong. I think Cheech opened a few eyes when he blew away respected intellectuals on Jeopardy not once but twice!

by road-dog

I used to have to set my drink down while watching that show, to prevent induction of beverage into sinus cavities with intense pain as a result.

I used to love watching Harvey Korman trying to keep a straicht face while Tim Conway was playing the slow guy with the Einstein hair.

Good times, Good times...

by oz_media

Mr. He-hwiggins? That's was one of my favorite sketches. Carol played his dumbass secretaru in a skirt so tight she could barey move.

"Thanks for the memories"

by road-dog

Carol Burnett was hilarious trying to walk in that skirt. She had this mannerism where she always adjusted the boobs immediately after sitting down.

I loved all of the skits where Tim Conway did the slow guy.

by hal 9000

Mentioned for a very long time not even on reruns.

That one was positively dangerious to your health if there was any food or drink anywhere in the same building.

by jimhm

What happened to all those great writers for those shows - When SNL first started great stuff - Land Shark - Killer Bees - Rozan-Rozan Dana - Emily Latella - Sumari Taylor - ...

The Carol Burnett show - Tim Conway - Harvey Coreman -

Laugh-In ... Sock-it-to-me ... The Devil May me do it - The Wall -

Redskelton hour - Two Sea Guls - Freddy the Freeloader -

The Muppits hour - Wasn't a kids show...

Even the old Sonny and Cher show ... some great stuff -

Jimmy Dean hour - with Ralph the Dog -

Dean Martin - and the Gold Diggers - Ouch ..

Where have those great writers gone - Now what do you get - trash talking nothing really that funny - SNL is so bad it isn't worth watching - and these Sitcom's are what - about disfunctional families or interracial couples or gay couples ... recorded laugh tracks - no live broadcasts -

Ah TV is changing for the worse - just keep watching reruns, discovery, History channel, TLC - the networks SUCK..

by hal 9000

Mentioned are over 30 years old?

Unfortantly they have all died or retired and the new crop of writers are under the impression that they know best so we get "Reaility Shows" that really piss me off as they are about as real as having the Russian Premier being President of the US {sorry about the analogy but its the best I can come up with this time of night.}

It is just ridicilious what is forced on the viewing public. And then they have all listened to Mel Brooks and taken a leaf out of his book in Spaceballs don't worry about the movie the money is in merchidising. Have you ever noticed just how many junk items are romoted as have to have items that are being sold off the backs of these silly shows?

I know I'm sinical but I haven't seen a really good new comedy for a very long time with the possible exception of the Saunders French combination from the UK but even those two have been at it for a very long time now and are nearing the end of their working lives. If they haven't already reached it as I haven't seen any "New" stuff from them for a long time either.

by oz_media

It is a funny portrayal of an American as seen through British eyes. Loud, crass and basically impolite.

When I was younger, people used to ship Caddy's and Lincolns across to England and then just park them in the car park behind our house.

they wouldn't ship them to a car show, or drive them (streets were too small for a Caddy)they'd just park them there fr a few weeks and then ship them back to America. these cars had sheepskin interiors, horns on the hood etc. Absolutely "token American" cars. They even had the stars and Stripes airbrushed on the roof and doors, big flachy mags etc. For nothing, other than "hey, here's ma BEEEG CAAARRRRR!"

No wonder I grew up seeing them as arrogant idiots, with bad, tacky taste to boot (or bonnet).

by oz_media

Definitely look silly in Speedos. I will be the first to admit it and the last to wear one.:-)

I prefer the commando approach, that's why I don't (have been banned from) swim(ming) in most public pools now.;-)

I would also like to point out that women who ties their sweaters around their waist to hide the hips, aren't really fooling anyone. I don't mind a good set of hips (within reason of course) but when they wrsp the sweater to hide the hips, it makes one wonder, just how big ARE they! In most cases the girl looks MUCh better without the wrap, when will we learn to cooperate and fill each other in ?

by oz_media

Have you ever thought that Windows is just like a union worker?

It stops working altogether three times a day then crashes overnight!

Badum-dum!

by jimhm

Tommy's serving a 14 month jail sentance for selling "Bong's" and other MJ stuff... Interesting the Government can't stop the dealers so they go after legit business men selling other things...

Got to love those laws past under the Heir Clinton Administration...

by hal 9000

Would be a better list don't you?

Sorry but there are/where far too many great axe grinders to fit into such a small list.

I notice no ones mentioned Pete Townsend the ulitment madman on stage from The Who.

by dbertsche

Max, Albert King actually recorded an albumn with Stevie Ray, you might want to check it out, it's pretty good.

Concerning Johnson, his albumn "Ah Via Musicom" has the one track he's probably most best known for which is "Cliffs of Dover". He is extremely good from a technical standpoint. I guess the one reason he may not be more popular is he doesn't have the stage presence of Stevie Ray or some of the others. He just plays. I've seen him on Austin City Limits and it's incredible how fast and accurate he is.

Here's another one we've all left out, Wes Montgomery, a jazz guitarist if you're into that type of music.

Happy listening.

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