How one can become a terrorist?

Good to see you still have the patience to wade through the heaps here.

Actually no I NEVER use ICQ, MSN Messenger or ANYTHING like it.

I stick to my GroupWise messaging and Uified Messaging for quick exchanges, it's far safer.

I know how MANY Americans, or at least I THOUGHT MANY Americans would take such an email as a VERY serious issues and perhas someone would wat to forward it to the appropriate party for further investigation.

Personally I think it's just garbage, a sham, a hoax or whatever. One can't be too sure though and in light of short-sightedness killing thousands in New York, someone MAY want to look into it further.

That's why I use a BS online account for all the website crap, I don't want THIS garbage in my server everyday.

I get MAYBE three SPAM mail per day in my servers.

Several hundred in my onlilne email accounts.

ZERO at my Iron Maiden account, cheers boys, "Up the Irons!"

by mrafrohead Sep 24, 2004

Odds are, that that site will include some type of exploit to hax0r your Windoze.

Therefore, contacting via the ICQ # will also probably be just as dangerous...

Just something to think about.

by oz_media Sep 24, 2004

These guys get hit a lot. somone else was familiar with another HOAX they had where everyone started flaming them for no reason.

The Shadow site has nothing to do with the mail senders, they are just being a**holes.

There's no way you could get me to ICQ them though, they are either also using someone's ICQ numer or are being CLOSELY monitored at that number if it is thiers.

I just wsn't sue if a lot of people got this, if people have been reporting them, even if hoaxes, or what the scene was. What beter group to ask than you folks?

by hereinoz Sep 25, 2004

My comment on ICG was very very much tongue in cheek.

fuck you !!!!!!
cheers you british fuck.

by oz_media Oct 4, 2004

It looks like you've already visited those sites I gave you and learned how to make little stars *********** How sweet. We computer geeks call those asterisks, can you say asterisk? I knew you could! :D

by tomsal Sep 23, 2004

I want to think of that email as a joke -- if that's the case, I'm not laughing. Its incredibly sick humor if it is a joke, especially with the current times we are living in.

On the other hand if its authentic and the email's original senders are serious....that is scary and very disturbing.

Makes me wish I could track a PHYSICAL "real world" address from the email info and blow up the organization selling the arms.

I wonder if anyone forwarded this email to US government?

I hope you know that despite my dislike of GWB that you would see I don't condone this type of thing at all.

As you say it is sick and demented, even moreso if it IS a joke, which I suspect is so.

The reason I posted th einfo is so that if someone DOES want to report this to the US government, they would be able to. Should ANYONE desire to do so, I would be MORE than happy to help by fowarding the original or anything else thay may be necessary.

Personally, I would not know where to forward it except Canada's RCMP but there may be more active/aggressive channels in the USA in light of 9/11 events.

It was spoofed to originate at support@onlinenic.com

Just in case it is an onlinenic client, I have forwarded it to thier UK, Americas, and Asian support teams. Thier complaints address, and about ten other accounts listed on thier website. Perhas SOMEONE will receive it and know how to best handle the issue on thier end.

by tony hopkinson Sep 27, 2004

Iron Maiden !!!

by oz_media Sep 27, 2004

Sorry I don't get your point, if you had one other than Kudos for IM?!?

I here ya..........right on!!!

by tbragsda Sep 23, 2004

I have this vision of how shopping for this stuff goes (regardless or customer).

Customer: Im looking for some land minds
Seller: Looking to blow the legs off, or just flesh wounds.
Customer: Full amputation of at lease one limb, please.
Seller: Well, I just got these babies in. Blast mines. If you want directional, it will cost ya.
Customer: Prices, no problem. Send me 5k of theses LL16512s and 10k of the CK5136s.
Seller: Right then, 5000 Leg Loppers, 10000 Child Killers.
Customer: Charge it to the C**.
Seller: Great!
Customer: See you soon Col North.

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I would guess they really cant deliver a BETAB-500U concrete-piercing air bomb, but its a wacky world.

But this is not to be considered spam or a mere hoax, this in itself can be seen as a form of terrorism in itself. These guys should be hung by the nads and.....well I'll leave it alone, I can be a pretty nasty bugger sometimes.

I have notified EVERYONE at onlinenic.com that they have eiether been spoofed (the support address it is SAID to come from is actually no longer in service at onlineic) or one of thier CLIENTS is sending it out, as they provide domains, hosting, email, domain names etc.

as I said, with all my rants against Bush, even I see this as absolutely disgusting mail to send out.

What if this spammer has set this to new Yorkers who have lost loved ones, or people who have thier children in Iraq fighting against JUST THIS type of thing.

How horrible it would be to receive such email.

If they could provide these devices as claimed how would the average person use them?

Personally I think it is a fraud with all orders being not supplied and the money taken no questions asked. After all who could you complaint to? You could hardly take a serious complaint to the US Authorities could you? But then again I remember a case a long time ago with a bank robber who actually filled a formal complaint that he had been robbed. Apparently he robbed a bank and then after leaving the bank threw the sack of money into a bush and mingled with the crowd that arrived. When the Police had finished he then proceeded to retrieve his stolen property only to find it gone so he went to the Police and filed a formal complaint about the theft and was only too willing to explain how he got the money in the first place.

Col

custermer: gona kill ya
seller: gona find ya

by tbragsda Sep 23, 2004

More I think about it. Do turn it in. I don't know how to submit to DHS, but I would rather you did, then anyone think you were holding it back.

Cat Stevens was turned back while entering the US, while sales of assult Rifels are legal again. Like I said, wacky world (or wild wild world), and I fear were going crazzy down hear.

On edit:
http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/contactus
Email form.

They say they are part of shadow crew, a visist to their site shows that the shadow crew is often spoofed (noted on the home page) and from looking at thier services, this surely isn't one of them.

The domain it is SPOOFED from is onlineic.com, a web hosting, domain registation service.

I have sent a copy to all of thier listed email addressed in Noth America, Asia and the UK.

I am hoping that SOMEONE within thier company would be able to escalate this from thier company.

Shoudl anyone else provide email to any further sources that they feel this should be forwarded to, please let me know and I will forward it immediately.

by tomsal Sep 23, 2004

I heard about the Cat Stevens incident too (thought that's not the name he goes by anymore..its some muslim name now). From the info I heard and read about they were right to turn him back, the guy donated money to known terrorist organizations.

by tbragsda Sep 23, 2004

Cat Stevens or Yusuf Islam. (had to look it up)

My point is I would rather sit next to Yusuf on a plane than someone that just bought a AK-47 last week.

We played his music at our wedding, like half the couples since the 60's (we were married in 00'). Hes a peace activist. The Salmond Rushdie (sic) thing was a big misunderstanding.

They may have been right, I don't claim to know for sure that hes not funding terrorists, but I doubt it as much as I think OZ could have purchased any of the items from the email.

Trouble, or Peace Train?

by onbliss Sep 23, 2004

...we made weapons to hunt and defend. All countries in this world are to blame. Ok may be there are few that don't.

Don't know what they do at U.N and stuff... can't they ban weapons trading? I know itz complex, what if a small country say like Fiji wanted to defend but does'nt manufacture weapons. If the countries of the world will, they can come up with some darn solution.

Showed just how weapon bans do not work.

Besides while these things are available there will always be a black market for them I'm only surprised that there wasn't any low yield waste offered for sale to make dirty bombs.

For a really good understanding of the current arms dealing I suggest you watch the movie "Head Office" it's an eye opener and although classed as humor the scene where they are discussing selling attack aircraft to remote New Guinea Tribes is really funny and what's even worse is totally believable.

Col

"They dont have pilots?"

"No, they just roll them down hill at each other"

Bans do something. It makes it harder for the black market to get them in the first place. The ARB did not do much. Im not going to say I know enough about guns to discuss the difference between simmarlar models that were OK under ARB and others that were limmited. I can say that once these guns are legal, they will show up in crimes because guns get stolen and sold etc.

"I think I missed the exit... Ill just go to the next one, and loop around"

by onbliss Sep 24, 2004

...I will surely be on the look out for that movie.

don't beleive in special effects. learn your shit!!

Since 9-11. After prior to that the Talaban where the recognized Government of Afghanistan and had been supported by previous US Administrations prior to that event in September 2001.

This is where things get difficult as a peace activist you can support an organization who you think are the good guys and then get tared with the same brush when they are outlawed several years latter. The fact that Yusuf Islam declared these donations on his tax returns tends to show that he wasn't attempting to hide anything.

Col

Next year, will I be on the list for supporting Amnesty International?

by tomsal Sep 24, 2004

Just like our local radio talk show host here in Philly said,"I bet you any amount of money more folks will defend Cat than against him merely because of his previous pop star status"..

However, the information I know said he was donating to Hamas (sp?), and according to the (admittably very little) research I did on that group they were never NOT connected to terrorist acts.

Personally, I like some of Cat's songs too..but *if* he did donate to Hamas and if Hamas (as my findings are showing) were also terrorist related, I don't care if God himself opens up a portal in heaven and comes down and says "Oh but its Cat Steven's he was a peace activist"...I'll say "so, your point?".

by oz_media Sep 24, 2004

"So your point?"

Sorry man just couldn't resist, it's Friday afterall! :p

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OK. Im almost out of references, but I would rather hang out in a wig-wam with CS, than with a gun toteing...

Do you realy think were any safer? This case is just public because of his celebrety status. Ted Kennedy was grounded for the same reason. Hes on "The List". What about others.

I will not say I know enough about this case, Im just a little worried about all of us getting acustome to this "he must be guilty of somthing, hes on the list".

by admin Sep 24, 2004

From 1945 to 1990, the United States produced approximately 70,000 nuclear weapons of approximately 70 types for more than 120 weapon systems and they can't find any to sell to me????

What happened to all the Russian warheads! They can't be all acoounted for and these bozos can't even bring them to market???

I can get standard military goods at my local arms dealer, why would I risk buying from these guys for a few crapppy rockets?

Get a real arms dealer.

where do you get your info you stupid fuck! do you think we would sell thim to your terrorist ass. Fuck you(spit)

by hal 9000 Oct 4, 2004

The person with the money gets what they want. Isn't that the American Way?

Col

by admin Oct 4, 2004

nice bit o counter sarcasm :)

In case anyone really would think I was serious... RoFL...

by oz_media Sep 24, 2004

I've think I've probaly made MANY lists that I really wouldn't appreciate being on , not a terrorist list though (I don't think).

I've made some lists I'm sure the people on them wouldn't apreciate either! :D

Have a good weekend

by mrafrohead Sep 24, 2004

Oz - you should forward that on to Rob Rosenberger @ Vmyths and see what he has to say about it.

I mean, that's like me walking into a police department to try to sell a hooker crack. Just not something you "advertise".

Newho - to answer your question...

Just hack something. Or crack something. Or distribute software or music.

Ever since the WTC fell, we have lost a lot of our rights, and the simple acts listed above, automatically turn you from a criminal, to a TERRORIST!!!

That's right Oz, I just read your e-mail. Now I'm as bad as those guys that are chopping off heads in Iraq. Thank you patriot act...

Mrafrohead

by maxwell edison Sep 25, 2004

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You said, "Ever since the WTC fell, we have lost a lot of our rights."

Will you do me a favor?

List even one "right" that you, yourself, have lost.

List even one "right" that someone you personally know has lost - and that you have personally witnessed or can verify.

List even one "right" that someone has "lost", but be precise and exact. To do this, you must list the real and verifiable facts, including name, location, date, and all circumstances surrounding that particular "loss of rights", and show how the circumstances that have occurred after 9-11 were the impetus behind it.

How's that for a challenge?

Now what was that you were saying about losing rights?

(I'd bet you lunch that you can't answer any of the above.)

by tbragsda Sep 25, 2004

I can't protest my goverment, except in "free speach zones"

I can't go see a Bush/Cheney gathering without signing a "loyalty oath"

Storys where SS has visited students for what they hang on their dorm walls.

a HS schooler got a visit for a easy he wrote.

I know that my freedom of speach is NOT as free as it was.

I know there are many who have lost their freedom of movement (Guantanimo [sic]) based on little more than rummor.

Other Muslims have reported contuneing harrassment from police.

So much intimidation, so much to make us fear. Its not just whats written in the Patirot Act. Its US allowing ourselfs to be ok when others have their rights stomped on.

Whats wrong! I love my country! What are we doing, please! Are we really trying to be safe? Im not a chicken. Im a pacifist, and I seem to have more ?guts? than some I see around me.

OK, it?s easy to see I?m a liberal, and will vote for Kerry. Lets just remove that from the discussion. I am worry about Republican and Democratic alike. I?m not scared of a terrorists attack, Im worried about all my fellow Americans being scared of their government. These are our servents, and we let them push us like sheep into "free speach pens". We let them ship our brothers out to war. It was, unfortunately, MY President that put us in a war that has nothing to do with making us safer. Thats right, however unelected, he still is MY responsibility, he represents me, and I must stand and say "STOP".

If you dont feel the creeping hand of the goverment, you just arent looking. Im not condoning donning tin-foal hats. I asking that I feel free in my own country to say what I feel without that creepy feeling.

Its MY country. These are MY problems. I must say something, or I fail at my only civic job.

by hereinoz Sep 25, 2004

Max, your "quote me an instance" attitude reminds me of my father.

He ended up old, bitter and friendless.

Be careful, I wouldn't want it to happen again.

by petgeek Sep 27, 2004

Simple:

Shortly, I will lose my First Amendment right to engage in political speech regarding my junior senator or his rival, the President.

Congress made law making certain political speech (political advertising IS political speech) illegal if you are attempting to affect the outcome of a federal election.

Rhetorical question for the Supreme Court: What do you THINK the point of political speech is in an election year?

by mrafrohead Sep 27, 2004

We lost the right to a fair trial.

IF you or I or anyone else in the country is thought to be a terrorist, we can be detained without knowledge of why we are being held indefinately.

This is just off the top of my head. It is written into the Patriot Act.

If you would like, I can look up some of the references to the teacher that was heald at first with no knowledge of why he was being held. Granted, I think that guy was probably up to something, but he was eventually let go.

BUT - there's lunch. Should I meet you at your place, or will you meet me at mine? ;p

Also, a lot of conveniences were lost too...

Just visit your local airport to verify those.

I'll check back tomorrow. :)

Was after being told that all they did was roll them down a hill at each other the CEO or whatever he was gave the go ahead for the sale of several million dollars worth of attack aircraft. That single scene made the whole movie worth the price of admission and the cost of the DVD alone without any of the other stuff in it.

Col

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"A corporations responsibility to its shareholders is to maximize profits."

Have not though of this movie in sometime, but now that you bring it up, it has many references that fit nicely now.

by hal 9000 Sep 25, 2004

How this company used its position to justify US Foreign Policy {Example What's good for us is good for the US and anything else is communist!}

Col

by diabhal Sep 26, 2004

Yeah, I received that kind of email this morning:

Return-path: <2g74h7@yahoo.com>
Envelope-to: diabhal@online.ie
Delivery-date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:19:20 +0100
Received: from [151.197.117.9] (helo=151.197.117.9)
by mail.online.ie with smtp (Exim 4.33)
id 1CBEKV-0002BT-EL
for diabhal@online.ie; Sat, 25 Sep 2004 16:19:20 +0100
From: admin@CERF.NET
To: diabhal@online.ie
Subject: How one can become a terrorist?
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:18:51 -0500
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="Windows-1252"
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X-Priority: 3
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X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
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You gave generalities - no more than hearsay and rumors.

If it's so "wide-spread" as suggested, perhaps you can be specific.

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To me, The Patriot Act has lead to many violations of our Constitution. People have been arrested and placed in solitary confinement without legal representation or due process. Some people have been illegally deported to foreign countries to be tortured by proxy.

Fighting for freedoms IS America. It would say that those who take the loss of their freedoms lying down are unAmerican, not those who protest the loss of freedoms. Just because I have nothing to hide, is no reason for me to be OK with loss of rights protected by MY Bill of Rights.

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Below you will see some of the sections, and a discriptive paragraph. I did not write these (for sake of discloser).

Section 216
The government is now allowed to tap your phone and computer without probable cause. Under this section, a judge has NO CHOICE but to okay any warrant law enforcement certifies as surveillance "relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation." No probable cause of criminal activity is required to issue the warrant. Also, The government can now serve a single wiretap on ANY person or entity nationwide, even if that person or entity is NOT named in the order. The government need not make ANY showing to a court that the particular information or communication to be acquired is relevant to any criminal investigation. This means ANYONE might have their phone tapped. This also means that the government now can spy on the internet habits of ANY American, even when not suspected of ANY crime. The government is also NOT obliged to report back to the court, OR inform YOU, at all.

Section 218
The government to now permitted to carry out secret searches and covert wiretaps without showing probable cause. They must merely 'certify' (NOT prove) that there is a "significant" foreign intelligence purpose. This evades Americans' protection under the 4th Amendment.

Section 213
The government can now enter and search your home, without ever
informing you. This search happens whether or no you are home. In some cases you could have your home searched and be none the wiser. This also revokes freedoms granted all citizens by the 4th Amendment.

Section 802
This section CREATES a crime labeled "domestic terrorism." This criminalizes acts which "appear to be intended" to "influence the policy of the government by intimidation or coercion" or to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population." This covers everyone who gave relief money to the Northern Alliance, as well as to the protesters at the WTO.

Section 412
This section permits the government to arrest and detain immigrants INDEFINITELY for nothing more than a visa violation. This violates the 6th Amendment.

Section 210, 211
First it allows ISPs to voluntarily hand over all "non-content" information to law enforcement with no need for any court order or subpoena. sec. 212. Second, it expands the records that the government may seek with a simple subpoena (NO court review required) to include records of session times and durations, temporarily assigned network I.P. addresses; and means and source of payments, INCLUDING credit card or bank account numbers. .

Section 503
This provision adds collection of DNA for terrorists, but then inexplicably also adds collection for the broad, non-terrorist category of "any crime of violence."

Section 215
Last but not least, public libraries now have to hand over information about their patrons' reading habits, and once again, with you none the wiser.

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Is because they're aren't any instances of the things they cite ever happening.

People are "afraid" of things that haven't happened - nor will happen. The ones "afraid" of provisions in the patriot act (and that's what this is about) have neither read it or seen anyone affected by it. It's political rhetoric rum amok among the anti-Bush crowd.

So if they haven't read the act, and if they've never personally "lost their rights" because of the act's provisions, and if they've never seen even one instance of anyone "losing their rights" because of the act's provisions, and if they can't find the exact circumstances surrounding an instance where someone has "lost his/her rights" because of the act's provisions, doesn't it stand to reason that this may be much ado about nothing - in other words, typical political rhetoric?

To listen to these folks you would think that people are "losing their rights" in epidemic proportions, but it's strange, they can't name even one.

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I was not around when MLK was fighting for rights. I was not around when Gandi [sic] was starving. If I had been around, and my answer was, "its not happening to me, it must not be happening". then as MLK said "the south will not be remembered for the bad people, but for the good people that did nothing." (not close to exact quote. its off the top of my head).

I will do what I can. Stand my ground. I will fight how I can for the rights of all, not just mememe.

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In fact, Martin Luther King has had a huge influence on my life. And for you to compare those issues to the patriot act is to compare apples and floppy disk drives.

Hundreds - Thousands - Millions of people were affected by civil rights injustices. You can't name even one instance of such things happening under the patriot act. All you're doing is repeating political rhetoric. Are you doing it intentionally, or have you "bought into" it?

Those "sections" you cited were not from the act itself, but from someone's interpretation of it. Get real, would you?

Have you read the Patriot Act for yourself?

I didn't think so.

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And I agree, it's absolutely disgraceful.

People are being watched and recorded at every turn. People can't even buy a book without government approval and oversight.

In virtually in every facet of life, the government is there - making sure you comply to the rules, keeping you in-line.

People are forced to make their lives a virtual open book.

People are denied the due-process of law - and they are always presumed guilty and must prove their innocence.

People are actually forced to work - to the point of being indentured servants or even enslaved - and they can't do anything about it.

People's homes and property are seized.

People must comply, and they are even jailed if they don't.

People are torn from their families.

And yes, my friends, it is indeed happening at every turn, to your friends and neighbors, to your brothers and sisters, to your sons and daughters.

And resistance if futile - 7 of 9 people may try, but for them it's even worse. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

And it is indeed happening in epidemic proportions - EPIDEMIC PROPORTIONS, I say.

That dastardly Patriot Act.......no, not that one........but the Internal Revenue Service Tax Code.

If you want to be up-in-arms about "losing your rights", why not focus on the real culprit, not the fabricated one?

Max,

You got me. Really. Wondered if someone was posting on your ailias.

I would love to talk tax. I read "To Harass Our People" subtitle "The IRS and Goverment Abuse of Power" by Congressman Geroge Hansen.

We have lots to fix in this country. Lets work together on what we can.

TBR

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It kinda' does put things in perspective, doesn't it?

I'd love to start a taxation thread, or if you'd like, feel free to email me. That's my "hot-button" issue. And I consider the Republicans just as bad as the Democrats - maybe MORE so because they should, in my opinion, be the alternative to the Democrats.

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I see lots of similiarities. Invading privacy. Seizing property without a court order. Forcing citizend to try his case in a special court. Electronic survillance.

These are all things the IRS can do. Now with PA/PAII, the goverment can do it for reasons of suspicion.

by captwho Sep 26, 2004

I'm guessing that it's either a hoax, a troll of some sort, or more likely a sting operation. I can imagine what kind of whackos something like this would reel in.

by oz_media Sep 26, 2004

The shadow Crew get spoffed cuite often aprently.

They have killed all thier online email addresses, including the one this supposedly originated from but they are still getting hammered hard.

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.....please do not put words in my mouth. We never agreed on such a thing. And why in the world would you say that I did?

So who are you, someone who can conduct serious dialogue without the usual disingenuous political rhetoric, or someone who plays games? And to suggest that I said something that I did not say, is a game. If that's who you are, I don't want to play.

It was a question, hence the question mark. I did not put any words in your moth, and I didn?t say we agreed. It was a bit leading as a question, because I knew we do not agree, but was a question.

Now, you take the attitude about rhetoric. Lets ether talk like adults, or agree to not talk at all.

My guess is that we have things to share, but never get there because we let our emotions get in the way. I will always try to engage people open and honestly. If you feel that I was trying to trick you, make it sound like you agreed, it was misinterpreted.

So, for all that may have gotten the impression that Max agreed with me in any way, he did not. (See, this is me trying to be funney. just this last paragraph. OK)

TBR

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I did try with you, but you start being insulting much to quickly. I have read the Patriot Act. I did not say the sections were from the act, look I said a discriptive paragraph with the sections from the act noted. I said it was not writen by me, implying someones interpretation. (unless you thought I might have ment the law makers)

I don't get in the mud with anyone. I would love to have to change to chat with someone re: MLK, or about the IRS, but I guess thats just not you.

Please just don't post to me. I will not be involved. You just aren?t honest, or are not trying.

TBR

by sleepin'dawg Sep 26, 2004

Joke or not, why are you sitting on it???? This should be forwarded to the authorities in the off chance that it might be serious. I doubt that it is but even if the odds are one in a million, why take the chance???????

by oz_media Sep 26, 2004

I'm not the only one to recieve it, read through the other posts. I have reported it to the people who it was sent THROUGH who are the claimed ISP. I have notified thier American, European and Asian offices at ALL contact email provided as it is probably more within thier ability to trace it or even flag future similar mailing through thier network.

I have also provided all details and explained that if anyone knows of a specific agency they feel it should be forwarded to then I am happy to provide or forward the original.

Yes it is a hoax, it just doesn't check out they have spoofed and relayed it around.

It is also a hoax that cannot be taken lightly, even though they say the US doesn't know where to focus it's efforts anymore regarding internet intelligence, al-Qaeda chat rooms etc (there are just too many), this should still not be taken lightly. If you would like to provide the details to your friends in the RCMP, I would be happy to forward it on your behalf

by sleepin'dawg Sep 27, 2004

http://www.rcmp.crcn.net/
http://www.canoe.ca/TechNews0008/15_hackers.html
http://www.fbi.gov/
It's probably like you said a spoof or a really shi*ty joke but can you afford to take the chance???

by tbragsda Sep 27, 2004

Looking through the logs now, looks like about 6 users.

by oz_media Sep 27, 2004

But you must admit there are still some supposedly savvy people who swear by ICQ and MSN Messenger.

Oh well, to each his own I suppose.

by mrafrohead Sep 27, 2004

IRC all the way ;p

'ncript3d and locked down...

by oz_media Sep 28, 2004

IRC is such a farce to me, it is like a teeny boppers way of communicating due to a lack of decent software.
Kinda like text messaging on cell phones, what a snore!

Even if people don't have thier OWN unified messaging solutions, there are may 'bridges' you can subscribe to that will offer much better messaging and retrieval options.

I can call into my UM with my cell phone for email, messaging or whatever, I can log in with my PC and get voice messages in text form etc.

IRC is too limited.

by maxwell edison Sep 27, 2004

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If you are suggesting the the recently passed campaign finance "reform" bill is no more than a shell game and a sham, I agree.

No one has answered my original question, however.

by oz_media Sep 27, 2004

I have already notified RCMP in Ottawa, not the fishermn in Campbell. Don't get me wrong, I actually admire RCM more and more when looking at city bulls but these dudes up here are best suited for helping fish and game wardens than other issues.

As for FBI fraud, I figured some American who has also received this email , as many have, would work on the US authorities.

I watched a show a while back on how everyone is calling the FBI and reporting such things but the FBI follows up on less than 20% of them now due to a shortage of manpower. There are SO MANY terrorist focused chat rooms and wanabe al-Qaeda chat rooms, they simply don't know what to watch next, the FBI has undertaken a MUCH MUCH bigger task that it was prepared for or had knowledge of.

So when US citizens receive this email, sure enough they will report it.

I have sent it to MANY people, I was offering to provide the original if anyone else wanted to sumbit it to thier local task forces or whoever. I spoke with an aquaintance in the Port Hardy RCMP detachment over coffee a few days ago and he said that it would be more of an issue for the task force in Ottawa or Vancouver than in Port Hardy. He was the one who said to simply inform anyone referred to in the email, such as the ISP, which I have.

by lamphereaz Sep 27, 2004

I keep getting these emails, sometimes three times a day. What are they? And can I make them stop? Here is the most recent one I have received:

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Please use http://63.240.81.5 in case of our domain outage.

Please feel free to inquire by ICQ # 176928755 or contacting us
directly:

+1-305-592-2222
+1-919-319-8249
+1-314-770-3395

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ShadowCrew

SHOULD I REPORT THIS TO SOMEONE TO SOMEONE?
- LL

by oz_media Sep 28, 2004

If you are talking about a stand alone computer using MS Outlook, just create a rule to block it.

http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=67161

no more talky from you..........don't reply to this geek!

by maxwell edison Sep 28, 2004

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Sure, go ahead and look up the references. And we're talking about US citizens, not the detainees at Guantanamo. Find even one of these instances where someone - i.e. the normal every-day American, you and me, and the like - was denied their rights because of the Patriot Act. Geesh, the way some people talk about it, you would thing it's happening all around us. But you can't find even one. What does that tell you?

The increased airport security is another issue entirely. I don't like it, but I understand it. What I don't understand, however, in their politically correct zeal to be "fair", everyone is targeted - absolutely everyone - and not just the ones who have proven to be a threat.

by mrafrohead Sep 28, 2004

This was the guy that was just picked up and he wasn't told what he was picked up for for about a week I think... Granted when you read about him, yeah, he did sound guilty, BUT at the same time, just imagine if it was you... I know if it was me, I sure as hell wouldn't appreciate it.

As for the airport thing... I'll tell you this much... I do agree with what is being done, even though I don't care for it. But for being "fair"... I dunno about that much. I didn't see a single fellow honkey get pulled to the side and get the "glove", though I saw plenty of minority groups that had that happen to them. Specially when they travelled in pairs.

Though I did see one white chick get stuck, but that was just because she was acting like a female dog... I was actually embarassed for her... She was horrible...

Newho - I'll check back later...

deer lord, is this to honky for you! God damn, does it have to be black and whiter all the time, or can it be just us.!

Fuck you........you all, anyone in the USA who even searches this shit!!!! You terrorist mother fuckers!!!! You know good ole G W will fuck'n find your ass and bring it to justice. and again fuck you all. Signed a bigger force than yours

p.s. NOrt & JoN

stop with your stupid shit about the government being against your unliberial politics.......more to come!

don't understand your computer talk geek!!!!

ENGLISH bitch

by oz_media Oct 4, 2004

Okay I'll bite, what's the deal with you ?

DO you have a mission?

Are you trying to make a statement?

Are you trying to be noticed?

Are you looking for an argument?

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