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by jkaras

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either Han Solo or Indiana Jones who would you be? This was brought up with a friend while watching the Jones Trilogy. Both are classic swashbuckling characters that posses and extrodinary amount of luck and bad luck. I personally choose Han due to far more possibilities of adventure vs Indy who is stuck in the past. There's something about having my own Wookie and a ship that I find appealing. What was funny was that my best friend answered the exact opposite dispite our simular tastes in almost everything. Sometimes you think you know someone and realise they are quite different than you.

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by generalist

I'd also take Han Solo because he has a lot more territory to roam.

Of course, if Indiana Jones were traveling to parallel universes, the geographical limitations might be lifted...

by road-dog

Ok, let's look at this logically. We can all agree that potential danger and adventure is bigger in an entire galaxy as opposed to a single planet (in the 1930's no less). The empire is a much cooler adversary than the Nazis. The Millennium Falcon is much cooler than any transportation on earth.

BUT...

Han Solo - 3 movies, one babe
Indiana Jones - 3 movies, 3 babes

by jkaras

as well as my friend as a swinging vote. However I trumped him with that Carrie Fisher was hot in a metal bikini and was the original "super freak". Indy only got a one night stand after dealing with the anoying babes. Helga was definitley the best of the three so he kept trading up at least but she got freaky with daddy dearest so that would spoil the conquest. Indy was far more intelligent, but Han was sneaky.

On a side thought would you rather be Pierce Broson "James Bond" or Thomas Crown"? Both characters lived charmed lives; James had certain restrictions that he had to abide to and answer to vs Thomas having any whim experienced despite the risks. Both got to get away with anything they did.
Here I would have to go with Bond on this one just for the babe quotient, what a resume of quality!!! The cool gadgets are a major plus, but life would always be in the balance.

by road-dog

Back in his Remington Steele days, it seemed that he was genetically engineered to play James Bond.

I see him as too much of a pretty boy to be an action hero, much as Roger Moore was. I think a spy with ten thousand close calls under his belt would have a few rough edges on him. Maybe his presence is required to get our women interested so we can see Halle Berry and the other Bond Babes on the big screen instead of some lame ass chick flick.

As for the Bond vs Crown question, It's Bond.... no question. Anyone who has a sportscar that fires missiles and converts into a submarine pegs out the cool-o-meter....

by maxwell edison

But the Sean Connery Bond.

And the Aston Martin DB5.

And the martini - shaken, not stirred

"Three measures of Gordon's, one of vodka, half a measure of Kina Lillet. Shake it very well until it's ice-cold, then add a large thin slice of lemon-peel."

-From the first James Bond, Casino Royale

by road-dog

is the classic rough edged guy that looks like he's an action hero. He was also a man's man off screen, in the arena of motor sports. He is believable as a guy that has lived the life of danger.

He was awesome in "The Great Escape" as the Coller King. His disasterous crash into the barbed wire and his return to the cooler with his baseball and glove was epic.

by dksmith

Let's stop facilitating the dork/geek/loser stereotpe that is associated with the IT industry by doing this kind fo discussion. Who would you rather be: a respected professional in a cometitive industry or a loser that compares Batman to Superman and is reported to live in his/her parent's basement?

Did your mom drive you to the new Lord of the Rings movie? These questions make us look bad as a group. Please stop.

DKS

by jkaras

sorry to cast a negitive light on your facade. Sorry for intruducing a water cooler conversation rather than drone on and on over silly politics that comes down to opinion and never resolved. Next time I post, I'll post something that could elevate your status by pretending to be an intellectual so others may envy your persona while you chime in sipping your designer coffee and driving your incrowd luxury vehicle or SUV. What's the matter cant get a date despite your bandwagon mentality that you need to project a psuedo-intellectual persona cause you think people will respect you more? Respect is earned not bought or fooled. Keep watching commercials and buy things to make people like or think you're cool, it's working. Already I feel inferior

Yes we techno nerds are the only people that watch movies and live in basements that generate millions of dollars in ticket sales, dvd sales, and memorabilla collecting, all others dont participate. Lets continue sterotyping shall we? Why not comment about ethnic sterotypes while you're at it? Face it you're a tool, snob, or______. (you fill in the blank since I'm too busy bumming rides from my mother to keep current on the lingo)

by dksmith

Is this a discussion that will result in resolution that will chagne someone's mind?

I think you forget that I included myself in this group. I see my post as a protection for the group.

Why am I a tool? I'm looking out for us all by asking us not to continue these discussions on this board. There is a steroetype and it does affect us. Period. End of story.

The 'Why not comment about ethnic sterotypes while you're at it? ' is uncalled for. This is just another reason why not to have these discussions on the board. It just shows outsiders that people involved with this website are not professionals and will always be relegated to their lot in corporate life.

by maxwell edison

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As I pulled myself away from the Ms. Pac Man video game in my garage (yes, an original one), and I wore my looney tunes polo shirt (one of them) to my recent 50th birthday dinner, one of the main topics of discussion was the forthcoming Star Wars movie, which is due out in May 2005.

This is the last one (of three) scheduled in the prequel series. Not to be confused, of course, with the original three movies. As anyone over forty certainly knows, the first three Star Wars movies, the ones released in the 70s and early 80s, were much better than the last three of the series. As anyone under twenty realizes, the last three (well, two up to now) were much better, especially the special effects. No, no, no, might say the thirty year old tweener. One has to look at them in their totality. They're really one long story, even though the chapters were released out of order, and one can't possibly be better than another.

A teenager, a twenty-something, a thirty-something, and someone at the perfect age of 50, ALL having something in common and fun to talk about. What can be wrong with that? What a great way to lighten up and just have some fun discussion. What a great way to break any potential generational barriers. And what a great source of inspiration.

Luke says, "I can?t believe it. Yoda replies, "That is why you fail.?

Yoda says, ?Try not. Do or do not. There is no try.?

The message might sink in a little better when coming from Yoda, and not just some know-nothing 50 year old "geezer".

Remember when Luke went to that planet (I forgot the name of the planet, Dragoo, or something like that) to search for Yoda, the great Jedi Master? Luke had a picture in his mind of what a "great warrior" might be like when he stumbled upon this apparently harmless and funny looking little creature.

Luke said, "I'm looking for a great warrior."

The Creature replied, "Ahhh! A great warrior." The creature (which really was the great Jedi Master, Yoda, himself) laughs and shakes his head. "Wars not make one great."

Not only was the "greatness" of the warrior inaccurate, but so was Luke's physical perception of one.

Just because someone might stereotype others as a dork, a geek, or a loser, doesn't mean that person is a dork, a geek, or a loser. Moreover, does it really matter what that other person might think? Or perhaps, how someone thinks of him or her self is what should be one's focus.

What would Yoda say about what others might think about you?

Perhaps, "You are what you think you are, not what others think you are."

Or, "Another's stereotype, important is not. Your own unique prototype, important it is."

Or..................

by dksmith

Yes. Sci-Fi is rampant with psuedo-metaphysical ideas. It's a given.

All I am asking is that we, as a group, do not help facilitate the stereotypes that are out there by actually doing what we are always made fun of doing. That's all.

I don't know of another 'professional' discussion board that facilitates the "If you could be blank or blank who would you be?" discussions.

This discussion mirrors the current state of affairs at TechRepublic. And yes, I know TR is going through some changes. The authors have pretty much tapped out every idea and concept at an introductory level and really don't have much more to say to us. They used to try to quell these types of discussions, but now it's the only thing going.

DKS
P.S. - Han Solo. Solo's full time job is as an EBA (Executive Bad Ass) for the Rebels, Jones's love is a side gig for him. Oh, and Leia in the bikini. She was my first love.

by road-dog

So if we discuss arcane technology issues here, we a reinforcing the geek stereotype also.

Thus, we must only discuss bodybuilding, extreme sports, firearms, and sexual exploits to escape the stereotypes. Only those topics not associated with the stereotype should be addressed...

by maecuff

quit making such a big deal about it. Everyone plays what if games, or would you rather games, it isn't just for geeks..

by oz_media

We could discuss "quantum physics", even though I used spell checker on that one.

It would be a drone and very boring conversation, MY inpt would be very worthwhile as I'm sure many other's would. The two or three left here would get bored though, well if you understand quantum physics, I guess talking about it would be exciting in comparisson.

Or we could have show and tell each week, nah wouldn't work.

We could talk about boys!

We could call everyone and like talk and stuff.

We could like go work out and then like skip school.

Or we could just enjoy each others company during the long boring IT days and keep it just as it is.

by jkaras

I'm always trying to broaded my musical tastes and would love to hear some Johnny Lee Hooker. Could you reccommend a certain cd that has his best work? I'm sure it's all good but I know of him but cant honestly say if I ever heard a song by him so I dont want to gamble on a cd that I might not like.

by oz_media

OK, well you even have Max calling himself a no nothing old geezer, if I'd only known that's all it took!

Knowledge you seek. THis may be th eworng place, try the Technical Q$A forum instead of discussions. There is always the fact that YOU are ALLOWED to post any tpoic you wish to discuss. If you are bored by one, post another yourself. Are you waiting for what YOU consider an educated discussion?

Here's an idea, why don't you post one, and then if noody responds you know for sure that you are much brighter and more mature than the rest of us.

Consider this though, techs are geeks. I used to deny it until blue in the face, yes I'd hold my breath, but when it comes down to it;
I'm no longer a rock'n roll warrior (I'm too tired to stay up that late, I just let the bands do thier thing while I get my much needed rest for my weary bones), I am no longer a tough-guy biker, I spend more time on TR than at the bar and I have admittedly become a dork (I mean geek, same thing).

This is where I come to discuss nonsense with nosensical dorks and geeks from around the world. THis is the GEEK spot to hang out. Now I admit I only saw Star Wars four or five times (LOVED IT THOUGH), Star Trek sucks completely in my mind, Battlestar Galactica was cool but only due to the women and I don't collect comics or attend StarTrek conventions, but this is where I now reside anyway.

I can't accept some of the LEFTvs RIGHT political discussions, that's why they are opposites, we haven't, don't and will never agree. I ive in Lefty Canada, most here live in Righty USA.

I accept these people as geeks, they watch the stuff I don't watch, read the stuff I don't read (Sci-fi) and many have watched StarWars and Indy movies more times than I have. But they all share something in common with me, computer knowledge and an interest in learning and sharing that knowldge with others.

If these discussions take a well needed break from politics or IT, I welcome it, no matter how geeky.

Do you think that some hot chick loking for a date will be turned off if she sees these threads or something? Do you think you may meet some HOT chick here? Nice concept but not reality.

So you either don't like to admit you're a knob, geek or dork and think you are better. If so, start a website, start an EDICATED discussion and have at er. In the meantime quit 'kin whining and learn who you really are, dork,geek, knob, YOU choose.

by maxwell edison

Pick a group, any group.

Runners are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Golfers are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Body builders are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Sports enthusiasts are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who read a bunch of books are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who like to ball-room dance are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who go to movies all the time are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who are over thirty (or forty) and still single are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who are blue are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

People who are overweight are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Church-goers are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Non-church-goers are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Lawyers are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Professional athletes are stereotyped by others as _______ (fill in the blank).

Obviously, I could go on and on and on.....

Should a person be true to one's self, or untrue to one's self so as to not perpetuate another's inaccurate stereotype?

Besides, not that we really care, but some of us think that the old techno-geek stereotype has long since died. There are simply too many of us. We are simply too diverse. And if not, who cares what some nimrod might think? (What's a nimrod, anyway?)

by dksmith

This is a "professional" website. The stereotypes hit us in the wallets.

Come on people! Understand that these stereotypes exist. I do not what people think of me, but I hate the stereotype of the industry I work in.

Nimrod -- A king from the Bible, a great hunter and in Noah's lineage. Don't know how it's been morphed into a negative connotation.

by maecuff

A nimrod is a hobby enthusiast, usually (but not always) male, single, and approaching middle age.
Similar connotations to geek except that a nimrod is not primarily enthused by computers.

Places to observer nimrods include model railway fairs, wargame conventions, comic shops, battle reenactments etc.

by maxwell edison

...is a good thing?

Well, if that's the case, I suppose I should apologize to all the nimrods out there who may have taken offense to my incorrect usage of that term in my lame attempt at slinging an insult to those $%&^*@#^& who stereotype us "techno" types as dorks, geeks and losers.

(And I think we ALL know what a $%&^*@#^& is.)

by jimhm

I guess if I have to select one - Being a Piggy dirty old man, that Princess "Laya" looked pretty hot with that little outfit on. Much better then the ones Indiana ever got to play with.

by jkaras

but I wasnt attempting to change, influence, anyone with my thread merely invoke a pleasent discussion to alleviate the daily woes of existence while at work. People will judge me regardless of my actions by sterotyping me to relate or belittle me. So be it. Who care's, I dont need an image or protection that I will be persecuted for my chosen existence. We are everyone's savoir when there's a problem and everyone 's butt in a joke when all is well, no news at eleven. So no it doesnt effect me that they entertain any perceptions of me. You started the stereotyping of my character and I shot back rather heatedly, poor form mind you but I did regardless of the consequences. I conceed that this site is for computer related discussions but nothing breaks up the monotiny like silly conversation relating to people I will never meet from all over. As well as understanding of computers from this site I also gain understanding of others from other states and countries that point out that we are all basically the same. I made the stereotyping snippet to point out the iddiocy (right spelling?)in assuming with generalizations, it's a childish tactic but effective sarcasm. Dont worry no foul no harm, no bad feelings jsut flaming for a fun arguement.
BTW Happy Holidays everyone, may whatever Santa or religious diety bring you that you all believe in gives what you want and appreciate what you have as we usher in the new year to erase the wrong we 've done this year.

by maecuff

I put this in my definition search and came up with nothing. As far as being a nimrod being good or bad, I'm withholding judgement. I choose to believe that being geek is a good thing, why else would my 16 year old son call me that?

by oz_media

Well I'd probably go with the digger man. He seems to find hotter chicks, stays rooted in earth, and I'm sure he fdins more valuable treasure and therefore has more money than Luke.

But if it REALLY came down to it, I'd pick neither, I like myself just fine, being bugs bunny would be kinda cool though.

by oz_media

Wasn't Luke but Han. Too close to 'Hand Solo' for my liking. Doesn't sound ilke too many hotties really hang around that guy, too many long lonely nights on a starship.

by oz_media

You are obviously concerned about how people see you and what people think of you. This tells me you're either quite young, VERY insecure or just too concerned about others to find out who you really are.

I would go with insecure, and before you rebut, that's the first sign of insecurity, denial.

As for what people THINK of you on this board, when I saw you at the mall last week, YOU didn't even say hi, that's pretty arrogant for someone who shares an interest, is it because you see me as a geek?

by maecuff

It's been a %*&*ed up month and all I want is fluff. And how come it has to be Han Solo or Indiana Jones? I can't be either one because I'm just a girl. I want to know if you (whoever) would rather be one of the Charlie's Angels bimbos or ??? Why can't I come up with ONE cool female character??? Lara Croft?

by jkaras

the samples I gave were the same actor playing two different roles that were charasmatic. You could use two different actor/actress or the characters they played, but they need to be equal to make a choice. You can even include music like David Lee Roth or Robert Plant or choose John Lennon or Mozart. Both groups were the biggest singers and the other were probably the two biggest music writers.

by maecuff

Charles Dickens or Stephen King?

John Lee Hooker or Eric Clapton?

Marilyn Monroe or Angelina Jolie?

by oz_media

Well I agree that before coughing up his vocal vhords Plant was quite the wailer, DLR isn't really a volcalist, he has the vocals of a lounge singer with very limired range. He is a fantastic Frontman though as they both are.

Sorry to nit-pick but these are front men, not vocalists. You want vocals look at Rob Halford, ex opera singer turned heavy metal screamer.

Damn, Clay Aiken has Roth beat!

by maecuff

I'm not sure if this is correct, but I believe the Clapton is God thing came from some grafitti

by oz_media

It would be Princess Leia and (Josie from Josie and the pussycats? Maybe Daphney from Scooby Doo, she was hot for a cartoon chick!)

How about Betty from the Flinstones, now she was a hottie!!

by maecuff

The female choices are jokes, Indy and Han are both cool...we women need more memorable characters that aren't known for T&A. Like Demi Moore in GI Jane. Yes, I know, it wasn't a great movie, but I have to love a female character that says 'suck my dick'.

by maecuff

I'm not sure how many 16 year old boys would admit to loving their mother's or even admitting that they have one. My 5 year old thinks I'm the cat's meow...but one day, I'll just be a geek to him too.

by jkaras

I would go with Stephen King because he had some neat ideas for horror writting even though he isnt the greatest, but better than Dickens as far as I'm concerned despite writting classics that span generations.
Eric Clapton due to a more prolific career although I would hate to see my only child die. I saw him in concert when I was 18 and he blew me away as well as other great blues musicians that was also on the tour.
Both Marilyn and Angelina are way hot but Marilyn has history by the short hairs. Being with Kennedy, the first centerfold, her death, and songs written about her. Angelina is far more hot but the whole Billy Bob thing gives me the willies and her made up facade of self loathing/vampiric oddities. Both wont go down in history as a great actress. I dont get why Merrill Streep is so great and she isnt hot but that's just me?

by maecuff

I guess I compared the two of them as slightly over the top bombshells. I'd have to take Angelina over Marilyn only because she doesn't seem nearly as fragile as Marilyn was. I agree with Stephen King over Dickens, only because life would be much easier as multi-millionaire in today's world than living during Dickens time. I saw Eric Clapton in concert not long after his son died and it was very difficult to watch him sing the tears in heaven song. (Although I'm pretty sure he does have other children). In ways John Lee Hooker was waaay cooler than Clapton, but then, Clapton was compared to God, so, I'm going to have to go with Clapton. Do you suppose that means I have a desire to rule the world?

by maecuff

I'd have to say to just get 'The Very Best of John Lee Hooker'. You'll recognize his music in other artists, if not the style, the actual song. George Thoroughgood covered 'One bourbon one scotch and one beer' which is the only version I knew until my husband introduced me to John Lee Hooker and I have to say, as much as I like George Thoroughgood, John Lee Hooker blows him away. If you find you like John Lee Hooker, try Howling Wolf (Chester Burnett) next. You'll hear Led Zepplin, Rolling Stones, the Doors in his music.

by oz_media

Although you THINK you don't know John Lee Hooker, I'm sure you've heard all if not most of his music before, generally played by other rockers through the 60's 70' etc as Europe and North Aerica picked up on Blues and came up with Rock'n Roll. Led Zeppelin, ACDC, Aerosmith and MOST rock or even metal artists have grown up with some form of blues brhind them. John Lees tunes have been rehashed by so many artists now that it is hard to even track back some of the songs, not to mention the direct influences.

JLH and Howlin' Wolf really influenced MUCH of today's music.

by maecuff

It's cool to hear Little Red Rooster and Back Door Man sung by Howlin Wolf..it sounds so much more like the song should. I loved both cover versions (Stones and Doors) but had no idea how much better (and different) the songs really were until hearing howlin wolf sing them

by oz_media

A 16 year old bot has a lot of respect for MOM but is MUCH to cool to say so.
When they get older they will realize just how much you've done for them and will start to open up again (once the need for Machismo is dead).

Do I talk from experience? Of course not, I'm too cool to say I WUV mommy !

by oz_media

Halford has had the moniker GOD since the mid 70's. It isn't HIS idea but his fans.

He has a forum on his website valled the Gods Quorom he is known throughout the industry as the Metal God (named after an old song he wronte) but the moniker has stayed with him.

Not to detract from Clapton in anyway at all, he is a phenomenal talent that is definitely one of a kind, but not GOD.

by jkaras

I used them as the two biggest rockstars from the biggest rock groups that are listened to this day that are household names. They partied like rock stars and bedded many women. I admit it's a coin flip between the two. If I could be a rock star I would like to be Elvis pre-fat jumpsuit only. I dont care how I die except that it's not embarrassing like dying on the toilet.

by oz_media

British TV almost always has the woman putting the dumb hubby in his place. Women in England have power as a result of so many repressive years, in general, men appreciate women more in England and have more respect for thier abilities.

One thing a guy WOULDN't dare do is be at the Pub during tea, he would sooon see a woman's wrath as his friends run and cower behind thier stools (or stool if you prefer).

Women in British shows are rarely shown as sex objects or arm candy, they have much more powerful roles to the secondary, dumb men.

Here's one, Patricia Cornwell (american), now there's a woman with balls of steel.

or Const. Anne Drennan from the Vancouver Police Department. These are REAL women in power not just mythical lovely ladies. Perhaps men constantly downplay womens abilities in movies just to feel better. I don't know many men that would mess with a woman in real life, we know betterthan that. You are heros in life, we need to make ourselves look better in the movies.

by maecuff

Okay, I can accept heroes in real life instead of the big screen. Although, I still love it when women kick ass in movies. Mallory in Natural Born Killers.

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