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I'm ticked

By Tig2 ·
On Sunday morning we woke to the news of a tornado touchdown about 30 miles from where we live. At the same time, there was an "Amber Alert" about a 4 year old boy. He is blind, has CP and is epilleptic. Guy who took him knew all that. The guy is a level 3 sex offender.

Mom KNEW he was a sex offender (young boys) but allowed this man to live with her and her young child.

Guy went missing with the kid at about midnight in north MN. Just before that, a tornado hit a western suburb of MN killing a 10 year old when the house she was in was destroyed.

I was hunting (on Sa) in one of the places that the SOB who took that child was in. My neighbours aided the police in finding the child.

I am SO angry... This craphead needs to come visit ME! Can we all say "grease spot"??????

Partner and I woke up to this- as well as the news that people were out of their homes in a community close by. We were woken up by a tornado siren at 11:00 p.m.

The four year old blind child was returned to his mother after Police found him with his MOTHER'S BOYFRIEND- a level 3 sex offender yesterday morning.


I was in the area that this occurred im. If I had seen him and known what was going on,, the perp would not be breathing. The blind, epileptic child was returned to his mother- who is obviously SO clued in...

I am angry and want to hit something. All I can think of is this 4 year old kid. He's blind, has CP and is eplleptic.

My partner's nephew is autistic. We are all careful for him. I don't even want to think if it had been him...

But if it had been, I personally woud have killed the *******- assuming my partner and his brothers didn't beat me to it

My heart is breaking for this child. His mother obviously doesn't give a d@mn - all she cares is that she has her meal ticket back. Perhaps I am being uncharitable. I don't think so.

Maxwell, give me an opinion here! I think that the mother is equally culpable. What do you think?

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I'll agree with ya

by w2ktechman In reply to I'm ticked

The mother obviously was not looking out for her child if she knew that this guy was a sex offender of young boys. What the heck was she thinking.
I would be surprised if the mother was not charged with endangering her child.

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Any reasonable person

by TonytheTiger In reply to I'll agree with ya

would certainly think so, but it doesn't happen often enough!

And if they do take the child, they often ask the parent where they want the child to go.... Duh.... if the parent is not fit to care for the child, they're not going to be fit to decide who should!

I think all these cases should go in front of juries!

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The population has no clue anymore

by Lyricster In reply to Any reasonable person

Judges are too soft,scared and busy to do step up and do anything anymore.

Political correctness, tolerance, greed and ego maniacs are Destroying these United States.

What happened to an eye for an eye, caring and getting involved to help others... those days are long gone

These things should NEVER happen

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One of the problems

by TonytheTiger In reply to The population has no clu ...

is that a Judge may not even get to hear about this kind of thing until it's to the point where criminal charges have to be levied. The way child protective services are run seems to be a violation of separation of powers, since they are often the judge, jury, and executor.

It seems like it should be simple: Each state has a legal definition of abuse and neglect on the books. If a parent is alleged to be doing something that meets this definition, they should be charged, prosecuted, and judged the same as any other accused criminal.

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I'm sure

by maecuff In reply to I'm ticked

she will (or at least should) be charged with SOMETHING. Endangerment or neglect? I don't know. Did she kidnap the child? No. Is she a sex offender? (I'm assuming, no). I don't profess to know what the laws are for this sort of thing, but I would think the person who did the abducting would be charged at a much more severe level.

With that being said? Personally, I find the mother MORE culpable. It's her JOB to keep her child safe. Especially one who is COMPLETELY defenseless. How dare she? I would NEVER allow sex offender anywhere NEAR my child, much less, date him. What a complete and utter moron. As far as an explanation goes? I've said it before and I'll say it again, for the most part, people suck.

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I don't know what to do about stupid people

by maxwell edison In reply to I'm ticked

Or more accurately, I don't know what to do when kids suffer because they have stupid parents. Is that mother culpable as well? Heck, I don't know. I don't know enough about the circumstances to make that call. In fact, I don't know anything about it except from the news account I read when I did an Internet search for the story (just now), and that didn't say too much.

I wouldn't necessarily jump to conclusions, however. Unless you know a lot more than I do, I wouldn't automatically say that his mother doesn't care. In both stories it says that he failed to register as a sex offender. Perhaps that's a little tidbit he failed to mention to her as well. Who knows? I do know one thing, though. When I let my emotions lead me to a conclusion, there's usually more to it than what appears on the surface.

Generally speaking, I believe that known sex offenders -- and especially serial pedophiles -- should be locked up and never see the light of day again. But that'll probably never happen, at least not as long as the ACLU has any say in the matter.

And in this case, if the mother knowingly released her child into the care of a known pedophile, then yes, I suppose she should be held culpable as well. But it's the "knowingly" part that's both unknown and a matter of interpretation. Otherwise smart people can be duped, especially when romance is involved. How many "reformed spouse abusers", for example, are given the benefit of the doubt by the woman who will be his next abuse victim? How many married guys get divorced so they can marry their mistress, only to find themselves on the receiving end of a new cheating song?

As a side-note: I rarely make judgement calls on any case such as this, or any number of court cases or investigations in progress. I'm not privy to investigation information, and I'm not sitting on the jury. How can I make a judgement call on something if I don't have all the facts (or any of the facts)? The answer is, I can't. And as I'm sure you know, I have a huge mistrust of the media, not only because the media-types and media outlets continually advance an agenda of their own, but also because of the sensationalizing that intentionally tugs at people's emotions. Often times the media doesn't simply report a story, but they actually try to influence public sentiment and opinion.

So the bottom line is, I just don't know.

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by OnTheRopes In reply to I'm ticked
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Some people just don't get a clue

by mjd420nova In reply to I'm ticked

And never will. Some insist that these people be given another chance. Let them have a chance with your child involved, not mine. They should be eliminated so they will never EVER commit those crimes again. They seldom last long in jail either, even criminals hate the pedophiles and will off them the first chance they get. What are they doing being released into the public again??? Sorry to hear about the tornado in the Minneapolis area, I used to live there and experienced two of them first hand. It is one terrible thing to have a house removed from over your head while you are still in it. Once under a very heavy table and another in the bathtub. Scary stuff.

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Knowingly placing your children in harms way

by jdclyde In reply to I'm ticked

Is child neglect, a form of child abuse.

Letters to the editor, lots of them, might get some people to notice. Once it is in the media it is harder for the local politicians and police to ignore the cases they can't be bothered with.

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by onbliss In reply to I'm ticked

The weather channel that I was watching alerted me to this amber alert. The man must be way twisted to do something like this to a 4 yr old. Especially to a young child with those disabilities :-(

If you had met him in your hunting trip, and had had a shooting "accident", I would have been okay with it.

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