It's been a long day
It took an emergency patch from a third-party vendor to steady the site.
We are still working on finding the root cause of the incident that started all this.
Again, thanks for your patience.
Regards,
Doug
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by onbliss
by ontheropes
by onbliss
by tig2
I know that it has been frustrating. We really do appreciate not only your effort but your effort to communicate with us. For those of us that give a rip about the site, we are behind you all the way.
Thanks for posting. It is good to know what is going on.
by j.lupo
I guess that is why some of the loyal following that could succeed in posting, kept you folks advised with time stamps and what we were seeing.
Thanks for the courtesy of keeping us pests all up to date. :)
by hal 9000
I'll have to drop Peter a line suggesting that he find some work for you to do. :p
You need to be like me I left here at 4.00 AM yesterday morning or should that be [b]Mourning[/b] and arrived home around 6.15 PM to fall asleep. Then at 6.28 PM I was woken up for another service call and arrived home just before 1.00 AM and now I have to spend some time winding down or I'll never get any sleep. :_|
But I've slid in one ADSL router to replace a Hub because at this time of night I didn't have a hub handy being the end of the financial year all the stock has run down but my Bank Account looks great. :D
Personally I think using a ADSL Router as a 4 port Hub is just a tad over the top but it works so who's complaining [b]Other than My Accountant[/b] anyway. :^0
But seriously if you need any suggestions I'm always available and you know what they say the [b]More the Merrier[/b] even if we don't get it fixed we'll have a marvellous time trying. I'm only a few thousand miles away and several Time Zones different but who cares. :0
Personally I haven't had to many problems since your Wednesday and at the moment and for the last day or so everything seems to be working [b]A OK[/b] if that's any help to you. ;)
I can't comment on the speed of the site as it's well and truly the wrong time of the month for me with an almost nonexistent DSL connection as they have the audacity to cut back my speed after I exceed 10 GIG and then again after 20 GIG and now at 35 GIG I'm down to about 32 KBS. [i]Dial up would almost be faster.[/i]In a few days everything will be right again till I go over that magic 10 GIG Mark again. :(
Col ]:)
by sleepin'dawg
go out and suck back a few cold ones to help you unwind. A fresh approach in the morning may let you see things clearer. You guys seem to have been working fairly constantly at this, so maybe it's time for a breather. There's more to life than bits, bytes and binary. Live a little. We'll all resume screaming at you tomorrow, so you shouldn't notice any big difference to the status quo.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by debuggist
by sleepin'dawg
I was getting too close to driving poor Jay around the bend with that. So, in honour of our holidays, I'm going to give that a pass from now until Wednesday.
I suspect you guys are doing better than us by having your Independence Day on a Tuesday. That probably makes for a four day weekend. We're only going to be getting three days, since Canada Day is on the Saturday. Hope you all have a great time and all your hangovers on Wednesday won't be too severe.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by jaqui
it's been clearly defined here:
https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=197011&start=0
:p
edited for a missing d
by jaqui
in the last half hour I've gotten repeated page not found errors.
and how can the discussion front page not be found?
I really like the new message added to it too.
[ see maecuff's post in the thread linked in my previous post above for the text of new message ;) ]
by tig2
Since about 3:30 this afternoon (CDT) and continuing the problem is back and intermittent. Getting a lot of 404s and then suddenly everything is normal.
Thought I would let you know :)
by debuggist
by j.lupo
by tig2
You should know better than to fix it while it is working- especially on a Friday afternoon before a three day weekend. It never pays.
We out here owe you out there a beer. Thanks for keeping the lights on for us.
Hmmm. Can you email a beer?
by tig2
Since about 3:30 this afternoon (CDT) and continuing the problem is back and intermittent. Getting a lot of 404s and then suddenly everything is normal.
Thought I would let you know :)
Add a bunch of half page loads to that list. I apologise if this is a duplicate post. I 404'd when submitting the last one.
by jdtoo
Yes, this is Jdclyde, but for some reason I can't get in with that account.
Was I blacklisted?
A glitch?
As of last night, I have not been able to enter a discussion, or go in to look at my profile.
A little clearification on this would be nice?
by hal 9000
JD you've been a [b]Very Naughty Little Boy[/b] and have been chucked off TR forever you can read but not contribute and this account will be [b]Black Listed[/b] as well now that you've shown your hand. :^0
Most likely a Site Glitch though but you'll have to send an e-mail directly to one of the TR People to get an answer. :p
Col ]:)
by hal 9000
But you know what you've done wrong so you'll need to grovel quite a lot to get back in the Good Books.
I've not had a problem until now and I'm getting a lot of [b]Page Not Founds[/b] and only the heading loading as well as disappearing posts.
Well apparently they only disappear for about 15 minutes as this is the second one that I've added to your comment and the one above just didn't appear till I posted this one even though I've started in a different browser. It's got to be a glitch. :p
Col
by jdclyde
by sleepin'dawg
it's obvious you have been listening to too many show tunes. Time fo some AC/DC or Guns and Roses, either that or take the things to watch the fireworks. It's a long weekend and no school tomorrow; let them live and stay up late with you. Leave TR for another time; it will get sorted.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by jdclyde
was the tunes of the day.
Didn't have the boys yesterday when this was going down, but I WAS able to get them early today, so bonus!
took them out with their cousins that are in town for the weekend to shoot the bows. a good time had by all.
don't go back to work until wed, so it shall be a few more good ones! :D
I am outahere! Enjoy!
by rob mekel
This morning the same for me. Alltho I could get in and read the threads, couldn't put in an answer nor get post from my contacts nor into any stuff of my ....
Seems that it is solved now (11:00 CET)
Must be funny to see yourself excluded, JD, on your favorite account. :(
Rob
by hal 9000
It's an [b]Undocumented Feature![/b]
Anyway you know very well what they say if it aint broke then don't fix it and if you have to fix it [b]Don't Do It On a Friday, The Last Day of the Month or The End of The Financial Year![/b] Now if all these occur on the same day the Techs have absolutely no hope of having the thing running properly. ;)
That's the very same reason why I didn't return a faulty M'Board last week. With the [b]End of the Financial Year on Friday and Stocktaking Saturday[/b] I couldn't take the risk of the M'Board going astray so first thing Monday or at the very least [b]Some Time Monday[/b] I'll drop it back in for a replacement. :D
The things that I do for my customers. And to make matters worse this one is a Yank so according to Maxwell I must hate him as I'm supposed to dislike all things American. I suppose that's why I only use Corsair RAM and Antec Cases & Power Supplies. :^0
Col ]:)
by j.lupo
by hal 9000
Actually I forgot about the 4 July Celebrations in the US that would only make things harder. :(
Actually things seem to be getting worse as this is the first time that I've been able to respond for about 16 hours and it's made me use a XP Box as well. :_|
I've been able to read but not post from my Debian workstation since yesterday afternoon. Seems that a different computer where I had to Log In allowed me back into the play. :p
Col ]:)
by ontheropes
by onbliss
by ontheropes
by rob mekel
Have fun and ... have a nice 4th of july :)
Rob
by j.lupo
you have off. No fair. I am at least getting to work from home today, but I have a packed schedule with work related emergencies that have to be fixed before July 5th and my TDM is suppose to be working with me. So is the business partner, but none of them have shown up for work today. I think they are taking the holdiay off without telling me. :(
Enjoy your weekend. Have a drink for me, please!
by ontheropes
https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=197142&messageID=2053714
It may be coincidence but it worked for me
by j.lupo
I had tried that on Friday I think and it didn't work for me at all. I gave up for the weekend and now everything seems ok. I'll know more tonight after work of course. It may also be that the holiday is here and TR isn't getting the network traffic.
For a site with over 4 million members, it seems like only a few really ever get involved in the community. Hmmmmm.
Correction: Not a coincidence. Had to do that myself to get it working again at 1pm EDT
by tig2
That dodge DID work for me. I am back to normal and being my usual scintillating self.
Wonder what happened???
by tig2
I am having the same problem that you were having- only I can't even create an alternate personality- obviously two of me would be WAY too much...
Any idea of what fixed you? I am using Internet Exploder to get this far- Firefox is just done for. Of course, the bloody print button is missing again...
This just doesn't make any sense- it seems reasonable that the error is on my side but it just suddenly turned up. Any suggestions, anyone?
My thanks in advance!
by j.lupo
by hal 9000
And had to log in this time and I seem to be able to post as I wish.
Prior to that I was attempting to open discussions from a Debian Workstation that Logs in Automatically. But when I moved to this XP Box I had to Manually Log in that may be a solution and latter I'll try again from my main workstation to see if it works.
But I've been unable to respond to anything at all on TR since about 12.00 PM GMT 3 July.
Col
by debuggist
Alltho this morning (8:00 - 11:15 CET) I was facing the same problem. Could read the discussions and articles but no responce possible, no post from my contacts and no my... environment. :(
Seems okay now :), tnx.
Rob
ps That is not for post from my contacts at 13:00 CET
[i]edited for ps [/i]
by gadgetgirl
ok. Nuff. I give in. This is driving me nuts - along with the heat!!!
Got back to my desk, it's now 14:54, British Summer Time (there ya go, Rob!) and hit the other site problem thread and got 404'd out.
So went on My Workspace.
To find out that the updates part has come back.
[i] but there's nothing else there....the rest of the page has vanished..... [/i]
So, Doug, I give up. That server that went to the Twilight Zone - how much ransom were you wanting to bring it back ?????
]:)
GG
by jaqui
what they want is for JD and I to go away forever ;)
and we ain't gonna do that ]:)
editing to add:
specially as it hurts to move anywhere, I smashed my knee into the steel railing on the stairs sunday night and can barely stand on it.
by rob mekel
BST does ring a bell to me, like: Sum, sum, sum, sum, sum, sum, summer_time, sum sum sum sum sum sum summer_time, sum sum su_h_mme_er_time. Back in the old day's it was a big hit.
And with the heat we're having these days it is really summer_time! 30 to 35 C, no wind. I love it. Alltho it was 26 C this morning at 6:30 CET it was getting clouded and we're expected to get some heavy thunderstorms, what a relieve on the heat it will give :) . Do hope that the sunny weather will return after the thunderstorm. It is great to be on the beach till late evening zipping a cool rose wine. :)
Rob
[i]edited for emoticon typo[/i]
by j.lupo
by jaqui
by jaqui
It ain't the first time I've had an injury :)
broken elbow, grade 1, broken collar bone, grade 2, right after it healed, cracked it again, cooked the right hand, almost amputated a thumb on a bandsaw, slashed hand open with scalpel, injected myself with medication for the pigs, tore the tendons in both knees. ripped the muscles off the bone in one ankle [ taking chips of bone out at the same time ]
I learned long ago how to care for injuries :D
by hal 9000
Would stop chasing [b]Desert[/b] around maybe you wouldn't be suffering these injuries. :^0
I'm taking it that your better half doesn't like you chasing this girl around and is taking it out on you for your misbehaviour right? :p
Col ]:)
by jaqui
Desert?
nope, I caught her ]:)
by j.lupo
Well you know how to deal with PAIN too. Sheesh. I mean with a track record like that, someone might think you were abused or a pain junkie.
Just feel better soon.
by sleepin'dawg
Whatever was inserted has come undone and TR is currently behaving extremely erratically. Other were claiming a variety of problems but my luck held out until this AM when TR literally went into the crapper. 404s, log on difficulties, only the first pages of discussions loading, were only the tip of the iceberg. Others are/were complaining of problems with "My Workspace" and updating of profiles and others would post only to see them disappear into some sort of limbo never to be seen again.
You've got a real serious glitch somewhere and I suspect you are going to have a hell of a time finding it because it's both intermittent and inconsistant. As I've said elsewhere, you maybe should consider shutting down completely for a weekend until you can track it down and eliminate it. I'm assuming it is a software problem but it wouldn't do any harm to check out your switching units for connectivity issues on the hardware side of things. Cold joints and faulty connectors could be causing this especially with any unusual heat build up. Just an idea but look for any unit hotter than normal.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by debuggist
by j.lupo
by hal 9000
I've been noticing that there is no Data Transfer when I try to open pages with the Task Manager Open and sitting on Networking I'm seeing the .03 network activity when I try to open a page that fails to open.
When things work the network speed jumps to around .5 which is the normal for an Internet connection over this LAN, but for some reason there doesn't seem to be any activity when the pages don't open. Has to be something going slightly astray on the TR Servers as they are not allowing the pages to be access and downloaded.
Col
by hal 9000
As of 4.20 GMT on the 5 July this link was impossible to open
It may or may not be of some help to you but at this stage I don't know what else to offer.
Col
by debuggist
by rob mekel
Do notify if you wanna have more bugs reported :D ;)
And ... good luck on debugging them all.
Rob
by jaqui
making sure you have the data to work with was our intention :D
after all, we all know how important accurate data is for debugging problems is.
by j.lupo
by tig2
I know it must be trying- especially when the problem is intermittent.
Good luck with chasing it down. Let us know if there is additional information that any of us can give you.
Edited for typo
by hal 9000
Currently it's 1.20 PM GMT 5 July and you no longer have an avatar.
Is that deliberate?
Col
by tig2
I can see Doug's avatar with no problem- 8:31 a.m. CDT - US.
That is really odd...
by mickster269
Are you sure it's purely an internal problem? As of 11:33 am EDT, I've yet to encounter a problem. I'm only 70 miles to the east of you, so we are probably using the same nodes and trunk lines.
I dunno - just another idea to throw out there.
by sleepin'dawg
by hal 9000
[b]Sore Knee?[/b] ?:|
Man you get it easy! :(
Col ]:)
by j.lupo
it isn't loading I just get the failed box with the x where the avatar should be.
9:34 am EDT
by jaqui
by jaqui
I was smart, I married a submissive woman, not a Domme. ]:)
it's not S.W.M.B.O. is ME W.M.B.O. :D
by jaqui
by mickster269
by sleepin'dawg
a software problem but something that might involve malfunctiong hardware, especially overheated components like switches. Trying to patch or debug software in that case, would only serve to exacerbate the problem, especially if it's intermittent, not fix it.
Someone should check that all connections are firmly seated and no item is operating at temperatures outside the norm. A component with a cold joint or loose conection may well respond differently at different temperatures due to expansion and contraction and yet may return nominal readings when checked with a meter, when it is cool.
In too many instances, this is dismissed as unlikely but a lot of time and effort would have been saved if a check on the hardware had been done first. I'm more hardware oriented than being any sort of software guru but I have seen hardware cause similar problems before, in areospace situations, and think it's worthwhile checking it out. If I'm wrong, there's not much lost other than some time and a bit of effort but if I'm right, eliminating the messing about with software that may really have nothing seriously wrong with it, will save a lot of frustration.
Eliminate the possibility of hardware malfunctions, then you will know for certain it's a software problem. It should take less time to check hardware than to debug software.
In areospace, intermittent problems of this nature are often if not always traced to problems with hardware as I've described.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by rob mekel
step further-out, into space.
What about the Discovery NASA has launched this week, there were bits coming off the shuttle. And even at launching time they knew that there were some trouble with the space-craft.
Why on earth (or may be space) did they launch a shuttle if there are known problems with it. And yes I do know it was/is one of their last chances (if not THE last) to prove the space-shuttle program is working fine.
I hope that the crew can finish their program and return safely.
Rob
by sleepin'dawg
I've just dicovered one of the new enhancements: [b][i]Your message was not posted because it is a duplicate of your last post![/i][/b]
Thats the first time I've seen that and with the difficulties sometimes encountered with posts disappearing, it is a welcome new feature.
Now if you could do us a small favour and quietly sneak up on Jay and ask when the spell checker will be added...............
I kept my word about saying nothing about it over the long weekend, but it's Wednesday now; time for a fresh assault. :^0
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by j.lupo
system first. Then crack the whip about the spell checker (maybe a grammer checker too). ;) ;)
I got the "Your message was not posted because it is a duplicate of your last post" before. It doesn't always come up I find.
by hal 9000
Who wants to see a [b]Grammar Checker![/b]
You can't single me out any longer for asking for this enhancement. :D
Col ]:)
by rob mekel
first give GG her extra emoticons ;). Then later on maybe the spell checker or even a grammar checker :). And this from a non-native-english speaker.
Y're right on the "Your message was not ....your last post". Haven't seen that one for a while. Mostly 404 to me nowadays. :( Alltho I must say this morning it all seems to work fine. :)
Rob
by debuggist
by mickster269
I never thought you would be one of those "cross-linkers".
Un, not like there is anything wrong with that, of course. I mean, to each his (or her) own.
by sleepin'dawg
by oz_media
by rob mekel
You vacuumed on the outlet of the TR-portals !!!
Sucking out ?:| :0 all the TR-goodies. :D ;)
What vacuum-cleaner are you using? What a power. :)
Hope your house is clean by now. :) So give back to TR what is their's. ]:) ;)
BTW if you have some spare time do come over and vacuum our apartment as well :)
Rob
[i]edited for @#$%@# emoticon typos[/i]
by hal 9000
If she's letting you get away with things she's only giving you [b]Enough Rope to Hang Yourself[/b] then she'll never let you forget. :D
I can do as I please I just can't stand the [b]Nagging[/b] after the event. [b]SHMBO[/b] used to drive me nuts about the amount of money that I spent on things so to get her to see the real picture I then sent her out to buy tools over here the Snap On stuff isn't at all cheap but it's good and I love it so I sent her to buy one spanner which should have cost about $120.00 AU when she came back she was a different woman. Then I made the mistake of thinking that I could get on with the work and allow her to go buy everything that I needed [b]God What a Mistake That Was![/b] She started looking around the Truck with all the tools neatly laid out and saw a pair of folding scissors in a nice little gold box, well they where only 20 something dollars so I didn't mind at all as I would have lost more money going there myself then the next time she came back with a heap of tools and handed me the bill and said something about paying it by the end of the month. 3K for one spanner was just a bit much but she insisted that the guy had told her that she would get a [b]Discount[/b] for buying in bulk. :(
So never again I used to buy what I needed and pay for it at the same time I latter realised that she had been pocketing the money and sending me bills for the tools and hitting me for [b]Petrol Money[/b] but then something really important came up and I had to send her to Sydney for an $8.00 Ducati Part for a race meeting the following weekend so come Friday she flew down to Sydney picked up the part and then I got a phone call from the airline asking if I was willing to pay for the [b]Excess Baggage[/b] I just answered yes without thinking I should have know better really! Latter I began to wonder what the [b]Excess Baggage[/b] was as she had only gone down there and was flying back 2 flights latter so she was only in Sydney for a few hours and she didn't take anything with her and was only picking up 1 part which could fit in a handbag and was made of Brass it was an [b]Exhaust Gland Nut[/b] which had broken the previous day and I couldn't replace it quickly well at least prior to the race meeting. Granted it was a bit expensive flying her there to pick up an $8.00 part but at least I was guaranteed of having it for the race. I thought that she had maybe picked up a couple of other items while she was there which of course she had all 35K of them she had run my account there up to the limit with parts and they where quite nice and packed them all up for her. Her excuse was [b]Well you are going to use these aren't you?[/b] :(
[b]Never take on a woman on any matter EVER![/b] they will make your life a misery and constantly remind you of it. To this day I'm constantly asked do I want her to pick up anything for me I now always answer [b]No Thank You Very Much Dear.[/b] I just can no longer afford to have her help me. :D
Col ]:)
by debuggist
by rob mekel
not with capitals yet but as i said before on: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=197142&messageID=2056520
TR is working fine by me. :)
Good job TR
And thanks Doug for the update.
I'll keep my fingers crossed. ;)
Now back to the wishes ]:) How about ...
1. more emoticons
2. Spell checker
3. Grammar checker
4. ...
X-1. Take 2 and 3 in to one option :D ;)
Rob
[i]edited for those @#$%@# ... fine emoticons[/i]
by jaqui
your av came back even. :p
yup, it's been good for me for the last 19 hours.
by debuggist
by j.lupo
THANK YOU!!!! :) :) :) :)
looking good so far and even improved speed on some of the longer discussion threads.
Thank you.
by sleepin'dawg
testers, is it too soon to bring up my request for a spell checker??? You'll notice I'm not so rude as to ask for a grammar checker ............ yet. ;) B-)
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by hal 9000
The only things that I've noticed Doug is that the [b]Add Comment Button[/b] has disappeared in the T Q & A Section.
So far I've only had 1 [b]Page Not Found[/b] and that not allowing the same post twice is a great improvement.
Col
by j.lupo
by sleepin'dawg
he was asked what thoughts were going through his mind before blastoff. He said that the main thought that kept repeating itself was that the whole thing had been designed and built by the lowest bidder.
While I have my opinions regarding the shuttle, I was never involved with any of the launch vehicles other than the fitting of payloads to be placed into orbit as well as certain devices as part of the tracking and controls systems and the communications systems. On the shuttle, my involvement was with the RMS, Canadarm, as well as the ones on the space station, not the arm itself but their controls. While I have my opinions, it isn't fair for me to criticise or comment on what scientists and engineers did or did not do on other parts of the system.
The one thing I like to remind people of, is that the shuttle is a twenty-five year old system approaching the end of its service life. At the time it was conceived and the design laid down, it was the built with the best cost-effective technology available at that time. Subsequent developments have led amateurs using hindsight to second guess the scientists and engineers of that time. As I said the shuttle was built with the best available technology of its time. Man is just entering upon the frontier of space and space exploration.
As with any new frontier accidents happen, miscalculations are made and people die. Does this mean we should stay safe on the ground and not take any calculated risks??? Do you think NASA is playing with peoples lives needlessly??? Do you have any idea of what the costs would be if the shuttle [b]did not[/b] launch on schedule??? The projects that would be delayed or put on hold indefinitely??? Just remember that man has only been able to lift his fat ass off the ground with any degree of regularity and control for 103 years. When the first man, Neil Armstrong, made that [b]"giant leap for mankind"[/b] the history of heavier than air flight was only 66 years old. Since then the penguin brains have been holding development back, for a whole host of reasons, all of which amount to keeping man earthbound. Like it or not, man's future is in space and the stars. Try to imagine what it would have been like if after Columbus's voyages, all exploration had been halted because a few ships had sunk.
Man, for whatever reason, was made as a curious animal. He [b]has[/b] to explore. It's the nature of the beast. One day man's presense on this little blue marble, floating in space, is going to become overcrowded. It won't happen in my lifetime and perhaps not even in the lifetimes of my great great grandchildren but it will happen and man will be forced to expand outwards. Right now, with the knowledge provided by current technology, we know, with the exception of Earth, that our solar system is an inhospitable environment. Also there is the threat of collision with some other space item that could decimate the earth; when , where or what nobody knows but we may very well be forced into leaving the earth. A space object wouldn't even have to colide with the Earth. If it were large enough and passed in sufficient proximity, it could pull a large part of Earth's atmosphere away into space, leaving us to flounder around like fish out of water.
Many of the things we take as science fiction today may very well be real five hundred years from now. Read some of the science fiction of the past. Much of it is pure escapist nonsense but it is surprising the number of things that have come to pass. Think of electric lights, telephones radios and television, just for openers. When my grandfather was born, Queen Victoria was on the throne of England and none of these inventions were around. In his lifetime he not only saw these become adopted and wide spread but he was alive when the Wright brothers made it into the air and watched as Armstrong and Aldrin took man's first steps on the moon. Everyone has to decide for themselves whether or not to believe in the progress of technology ir not. Essentially they have to decide whether they are men who are curious and explore or chickens that sit on the ground pecking at things and remaining flightless or even worse, are dodos and will become extinct.
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by sleepin'dawg
Realize the poor thing may become so overworked with your posts that it might blowup and take TR with it. There is also the posibility that it might hang your posts up and we'd never hear from you again and I'd really miss you. :^0
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
by gadgetgirl
just to let you know, I tried to get on last night and got a "302 Bad Server" error (?hmm?)on the site. Everything else on the 'net was ok, tho, just wouldn't let me on TR.....
Why did you ban me again, Doug?! Or has Neil been sending those webcam shots of my legs again??? !!!
Error time 21:45 UK BST 6 July, btw
GG
by debuggist
by tig2
by tig2
by tig2
by sleepin'dawg
It's a lot better than it was but still not problem free. Forget about trying to access threads like EL or the divorce tips thread, they take almost forever to load, even on a 10Mbps DSL or cable connection, that is if they appear at all and you don't get rerouted to the front page or a 404.
Have no problems with other sites, just TR. Even Cnet or ZdNet isn't causing any problems, just TR.
Whatever you are doing you seem to be on the right track but TR isn't there yet.
Once you do get it running properly, we hope you will take the opportunity to install that spell checker [b]everyone[/b] is asking for. (I laid off over the holiday but it's business as usual again.)
[b]Dawg[/b] ]:)
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