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IT's no wonder that the US Education

By Jaqui ·
isn't comparing well on a global scale.
My Stepdaughter goes on summer vacation on MAY 4 2006

MAY 4th!!!!

how do you expect your kids to learn anything if they are getting long vacations from schooling?

It's no wonder the USA has such a terrible reputation for the people being ignorant with the rest of the world. [ ignorant as in **** poor education and knowledge base ]

danged typos bugs, gotta spray for them again

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What do you expect?

by apotheon In reply to IT's no wonder that the U ...

It's "public education". It just begs to be turned into a propaganda and selective ignorance factory.

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Social Engineering too

by Too Old For IT In reply to What do you expect?

They teach them that abstinance is something those silly bible thumpers do, that fashion is jeans slung down to the pubes and halter tops that are barely there, and anyone over 18 who happens to notice the resulting dress+mentality is a perv.

Methinks Japan is on the right track. School 12 months out of the year and uniforms.

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Summer?

by gadgetgirl In reply to IT's no wonder that the U ...

(not over here it ain't, pal!)

So, if she finishes May 4, when do they return to school?

(Your system is wierder than ours.....which is about to get wierder, once we "even out" term times, btw)

GG

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not here

by Jaqui In reply to Summer?

in Colorado, where my wife and child are.

here summer break is at the end of june to the beginning of september.

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Not much point giving the starting date

by jardinier In reply to IT's no wonder that the U ...

if you don't also give the end date.

In simple English, what is that actual length of the vacation in weeks?

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end date?

by Jaqui In reply to Not much point giving the ...

somewhere around september.

this is an extra long break, with an early start to the prior year to allow for building renovations to the facilty.

it's still way to early to be breaking for the summer.

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Number of school days

by DMambo In reply to Not much point giving the ...

The relevant figure is the annual number of school days. Here in the NE US, most states set it at 180, which is still shamefully low, especially for secondary school.

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What's your point?

by CharlieSpencer In reply to IT's no wonder that the U ...

So she gets out May 4th. When did she start?

The start dates, end dates, and even the length of the school year are not set by the U.S. government. In many states, those dates aren't set at the state government level, or even at the county level. In South Carolina the start date is set by the individual school district, although the number of school days is set to 180. (Don't ask why there are multiple school districts in a county.)

In the district where I work (I don't have kids or school-age relatives) school begins in early August and ends in late May or early June. The start date varies by district and is the subject of much debate every year. The closer your district is to the beach, the more likely it is to start later in the year. But all S.C. districts must have 180 days, so the later they start, the later they finish.

What's obscene is 40 of those 180 days are lost to mandatory state or federal tests.

None of this is a defense of the U.S. (lack of a) school system. For some reason unknown to me, parents in the U.S. place a great deal of importance on making educational decisions at the lowest governmental level possible. "I don't want Washington dictating what my kids learn!" That's the real reason we can't compete on a global scale academically. It's not the length of the year, it's the lack of an effective national education strategy. Each state has it's own graduation course and testing requirements, and each state (and often individual school districts) have their own differing methods of funding. We can't compete internationally because we're too busy with interstate and intrastate competition.

Try being a military brat (among other children with parent who must move frequently) and attending school in multiple states with different graduation requirements.

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there isn't much difference

by Jaqui In reply to What's your point?

between the US and Canada.

the education is controlled by the Province, not the district.

but the same 180 days and 40 off crap.
Canada does place better in these studies, not a lot better though.

Here, if there is major structural work, they move the students to a different facility if needed, most renovation / alterations take place over the summer, and if more time needed they work with the students in the school still. A very real - life situation where your work space is full of distractions and you have to deal with them. This actually teaches the kids to focus on what they need to accomplish despite externals they have no control over.
{ I actually wired a couple of chools for networks and satelite tv a number of years back, this was scheduled for the summer break, but the break wasn't changed to suit the work, the contractors had to work with established summer break times.

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Please don't generalize.

by CharlieSpencer In reply to there isn't much differen ...

"... the break wasn't changed to suit the work, the contractors had to work with established summer break times."

That's the way it is in at least one S.C. district. The high school across the street from my neighborhood has been under constant expansion for at least three years. This hasn't affected the lenght or schedule of the school year.

Please don't make generalization about the U.S. education system based on one Colorado district (or any other single district or state). I'm sure you can find plenty of evidence to support more substantial criticisms at a national level. Start with the "No Child Left" program or the U.S. Dept. of Ed.

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