Jay, Smorty, SOMEONE! enough is enough

And I wish he'd work through them somewhere else. What CAN be done to get rid of people like this? Can his posts (or at least this one discussion) be deleted pronto? Surely it seems like it could. I wonder what the advertisers on that discussion page will say if they find out about Underage Dimwit's post sitting next to their ad.

but it is only about 10 pm there, and knowing people in the "pacific" time zone, they probably don't get into the office until around 9 or 10am! :D

just hope no one goes in and replys to the punk. I can see that downward spiral from here! ;\

well, after one am and just got done most of the preperations for my dinner date for tomorrow (tonight?) night. Meats are cut and ready, and most everything is ready to roll!

Although the cat just found his catnip mouse, so I don't see ANYONE getting any rest until the buzz wears off! 6 am is going to come soooo early!

but even thats too good. if only there was a way of clensing our memories of the stain of underage's existence.

Expel the guy, the sooner the better, good riddens, hope they'll do it soon

hey yeah guys
That freako underage need to be away from this site..... absolute nonsense talks ewwww why cant he try for some kiddy site like cartoon network os something huh. i'm with u fellas

already posted a little mini-rant....

https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=188352&messageID=1932723

I agree about the advertisers, though. They can't be exactly pleased if they look at the site to see how their ad looks, and find idiotic things like that associated with it. It also promotes the thought that they may think all TR members are of the same vein - which ain't good for any of us.

The site link, though, is what irks me the most - some members, if caught by their employers/filtering programs may be disallowed from TR in the first place.

(and that particular link is now on three different discussions, btw, all posted by the same person to the same person)

I, too, am not a fan of monitoring: grief, most of us (regulars) on here are old enough, sensible enough and amenable enough to monitor ourselves, which is what I get the impression TR was trying to achieve. (Thanks for that, guys) But we do need some back-up - especially when it comes down to getting posts/people amended/pulled/barred.

Surely those members (specifically, kiddyposters) who have proved that they have no worth here whatsoever should not be allowed to continue, having proved their worthlessness?

Extended rant over. Apologies, this discussion got a bit near my particular soap box.

GG

Obviously for the most part this forum doesn't need moderating as we have shown in the past. Most of us can discuss, even with disagreements, without resorting to absolute stupidity.

This has gone way past tolerance. I agree with the rest in this post, PLEASE GET THIS GUY OUT OF HERE.

Sorry for the hassles this guy has been causing.

We are working on getting the offensive posts pulled down. We've also locked his account, so you shouldn't see more posts (unless he starts a new account).

Again, sorry for the hassles. Hopefully, this will be the end of it.

I have significantly reduced my participation in TR forums and am considering leaving the community altogether for precisely this reason. Between this nonsense, the incessant odd news postings by Jaqui (no one's been responding, Jaqui...does this not tell you something?), and the wide variety of other meaningless posts on meaningless topics that have nothing whatever to do with a technical forum, what's the point. I have better things to do with my time, even if others apparently do not.

And I'll indulge my admitted high-mindedness and self-righteous sanctimony one last time...it's extremely unfortunate that TR, as the operator of this space, and the contributing community, as ALLEGED technical professionals, do not realize their collective responsibility to the younger generation just coming into this profession. Is this the kind of example we wish to set? Is this what we want people considering a career in Information Technology to think, that the profession is populated with the stereotypical anti-social one dimensional nerds everyone thinks we are? All of you, including TR, who continue to perpetuate the technician-as-outsider fiction by participating in or enabling these types of discussions should be ashamed of yourselves.

TR isn't the only forum for technical professionals, nor is it the only forum for those of us who manage and/or lead those professionals. My time is too valuable for nonsense. I'd hate to have to take my business elsewhere.

bet that was your last post......Smorty will disable your account for that one!

GG

(Go on, Smorty, even if just for an hour, it'll wind him up something lovely! :D)

Amcol has posted comments saying I'm an annoyance before, about a year ago.
If he doesn't like non tech discussions then don't read the misc section, seems simple enough.

DMambo 1, sMoRTy 0

No need to lower ourselves to hair jokes here!

Move along people, nothing to see here! :D

we might need to turn that annoying account back on and encourage him to be your private message pen pal.

Why am I not surprised that you're in a show called Kink? :^O You seem to be not surprising alot of people today: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=8&threadID=188470&messageID=1933747

:^O

In fact, We should have a smilie with one. :)

anyone is missing your point. You were very explicit: https://www.techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=96&threadID=188455&messageID=1933801

Once again, if you don't like this site for whatever reason please find one you do. It doesn't matter what someone is doing on their job. It's none of your business. If you are a manager at your company then by all means crack down on time not well spent for the company. You don't know what we are doing while we are posting.

Main thing is if you want to go then go. If you want to stay then stay. If you don't want to read certain posts or threads then don't.

And, quite frankly, you don't have the right to take anyone to "task" except yourself!

An ignorant person is always a shame to see. An ignorant person that won't shut up is worse.

[i]"I don't know why TR took so long to do something about it."[/i]
What exactly did TR do that took so long?

You have ranted off a bunch of things that bother you that you then say people have that right to do. If you don't CARE, why are you taking the time to list off the things that you don't care about?

Your talking in circles and every statement you make is turned into a lie by the way you close each statement.

True, you did tone this last one down to more about crying because you can't come out and play and less of the stamping your feet because it just isn't fair!

Poooooor amcol. Feeling left out? If you promise to play nicely, we will share the ball, really we will.

Your post is of someone bitterly annoyed by other peoples behavior, that just won't come out and admit it. Be honest, but first be honest with yourself.

You meant exactly what you said ... Couldnt have been clearer ...

Besides, whether or not we skive off work is none of your business really .... We pay as much attention to being social as we do to learning and helping out others at TR ... You dont like that ... well, too bad ...

]:)

Whatever it was, the crackerjack staff has already yanked it. I must have missed all the excitement. For the benefit of those of us who arrived late, what put the bee in JDC's bonnet?

I've -got- to quit wasting my time on end user support...

I never said I was leaving TR. If I did that, how could I continue to drive everyone crazy with my sanctimonious, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteousness?

What I said was that I was limiting my involvement. Sorry to disappoint you.

"I have significantly reduced my participation in TR forums and am considering leaving the community altogether for precisely this reason."

Ok, if you want to stay and harrass us knock yourself out or better yet let us...:^O
That could be fun....(just kidding!)

But I concede your point and acknowledge my previous reference to the possibility of taking my business elsewhere.

It's not easy being a cantankerous, crotchety, calumnifying, carping curmudgeon. It's a tough job but someone's got to do it. At least I still alliterate well.

I spect you are just the person for the job.

:)

was that a radio program or tv? :O

be old too. I haven't heard that expression in a hundred years! :^O

I didn't read this post until after I posted about the Heavens to Murgatroid. Sorry, didn't mean to rub it in about being old. But hey look at it this way when you're old people expect us to be cantankerous and feeble. If you play it just right you can get away with a lot of things. B-)

That I DO represent my profession doesn't make it true. To accept that I represent my profession would be to presume I knew how to BEST represent my profession. I wouldn't presume to know that any more than I would presume to know how to best represent females. There are a lot of different types of women and I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to decide how we 'should' be. I represent myself. And I do it very well. I am well respected in my company, I have a productive staff. I also make no apologies for who I am and what I believe in. I have no interest in shouldering the responsibility of some sort of global IT representation. And I truly mean no offense here, but I really wouldn't shoulder that responsibility on your say so. (Or ANY other individual). Well, except maybe Jaqui, because he has a whip.

It is YOUR choice to take it 'all too seriously', it is my choice to do otherwise. Where we part ways is you are absolutely convinced that you are right, and I am convinced that you are not. When I was little more than a kid (23) I was diagnosed with cancer. I went from being waaaaay too serious to realizing that as long as no one was gonna die, everything would be okay. In a way, I am grateful for that wake up call. If nothing else, I have more fun now than I did back then.

As far as the teacher analogy goes, of course our views of others are based on our experiences with them. However, if I had a doctor or if my child had a teacher who opened conversations with oral sex references, who obviously only intended to annoy out of immaturity or boredom or whatever, I certainly wouldn't take THEM very seriously either. And I sure as hell wouldn't waste any time worrying about missed opportunities.

I believe that is what he meant. Something about chicken sucking.

umm, you should PROBABLY get out more. :)

We all have our own perspectives. You have yours, I have mine. Yours has been colored, as you say, by your experience beating cancer (congratulations...I am aware how tough a battle that is). Mine is a result of my upbringing, my own successes against my own obstacles, and a lifetime of having a too advanced sense of responsibility.

You don't accept the mantle of representation, whereas I do. As I keep saying over and over, you're entitled to do as you will, just as everyone is. I would just remind you that perspective is more important than reality, and in this particular case that means that while your perspective is that your actions represent you and you alone there is another perspective you're ignoring...that of everyone you come in contact with, who are (rightly or wrongly) judging you by your actions and making conclusions (rightly or wrongly) about others who are similar to you based on how you conduct yourself.

Like you, I couldn't care less what other people think. Like you, I believe the judgments of others are their own problem and not mine, nor will I be held accountable to anyone's judgment but my own. However, where you and I part company is that I do recognize that in a very, very small way the judgments made by others about me do have an effect on other people who are like me. I don't like it, neither do you...it shouldn't happen, but it does.

I respect the way you've chosen to live your life. I just ask that you, and other IT professionals, recognize that we are not islands with no impact on anyone other than ourselves.

disagree. We are not islands, and our actions do affect others. However, how others deal with that is entirely up to them. Ridiculous scenarios aside. (Because you KNOW someone is going to say, "well, what if you cut someone's leg off??? or something of the sort).

I would bend over backward to help just about anyone who needs it. Believe it or not, I am as far from being an "island" as you can get. However, I can recognize, or at least I believe I can which is all that matters, when another human has no interest in doing any more than stirring sh*t, which is exactly what happened in this case. (You know, the point of this whole thread..)

Oh, and I have a difficult time when ANYONE suggests that they know how I SHOULD be or what I am or how I should contribute..but you probably figured that out already. :)

I'm on crutches this week anyway.

That's also from memory, now that Old Guy jogged it.

And they say memory is the first thing to go in the elderly. Or maybe 2nd thing to go. ;)

Wow I didn't remember the last name at all. You're good!

Clint went on to make three "spagetti westerns" as a character simply described as "The man with no name". Great movies though; Good, Bad, Ugly is one of only two movies I own.

How do we know greatness, it is when someone does something that is usually very hard and makes it look effortless. In this case, we have amcol.

It is not easy being, "cantankerous, crotchety, calumnifying, carping curmudgeon." Yet he excels at it. He doesn't even break a sweat. Yes sir, GREATNESS I tell you. I have never seen it better. He is the absolute Babe Ruth of being self righteous, indignant, argumentative, and Judgemental.

I myself sit in awe of his ability. Additionally, I am jealous. ;)

As far as I can tell, you would give the impression of IT professionals as a bunch of anti-social pinheads that have no fun on the job and only want to work with technology.

Well, I have fun at my job. I like working with others. I crack jokes in meetings. I talk socialably with my coworkers. I am also very productive with my time. True, I spend some time at work posting. I also spend more time at home updating programs in the middle of the night that the users need.

No, I do not think less of doctors just because I happened on a hack. I have had doctors screw up on me surgically. However, I have met very good doctors.

Your sanctimonious diatribe about being only serious on your job and we should act as uptight representatives of our profession seems to me to be a way to make you feel better about yourself or feel superior to the rest of us.

That is my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions, they are just like butt holes everyone has one and the only thing that comes from them is crap.

Finally, I say this last statement in the spirit of: When I point a finger at you, three are pointing back at me.
Don't take yourself to damn seriously, no one else does.

First, being uptight about every little thing that in some way relates to TECH is NOT representing tech properly.

Tech is fun.
Tech is cool.
Tech is a lifestyle, not a job.
It is more important that I have pride in my work and ALWAYS do it to the best of my ability, than to prance around ACTING all prim and proper.
I do my job, and I do it damn well.
Do I post at work? Yes.
Do I work at home? Yes.
Do I usually have something processing WHILE I am posting from work? Almost always.

You sound like one of the old style managers that is concerned if you see someone "wasting time" and so everyone has to "look busy" around you because some managers can't tell if people are doing their job based on what is done and how.

If my productivity went down, my boss would know it. My productivity is high, I get left alone. Gives me more incentive to bust ass to get everything done right the first time, where under YOUR "leadership" you will get a lot of "milking" of the job because the only thing that will happen when your workers finish is you will throw something else at them.

I think you need to re-evaluate your ideas of what makes a good employee vs someone that just comes in and punches a clock.

I bet you even worry about if someone is "Late" for work. And what does this tell them? Time is important, so if they HAVE to punch in "on time" you can BET they will be punching out "on time".

I work "the hours required to get the job done" as per the employee handbook for salary workers. Averages 45 to 48, not including another 10 to 15 hours in travel time. If there is a problem, I am there till it is resolved. Server needs an update? I am there on off hours so that it doesn't interfer with productivity.

You have a long way to go before EVER talking to me or the majority in here about professionalism, how to act and when to act that way.

Take yourself too seriously if it makes you feel grand. My job performance is what makes ME feel grand, and grand I am!

You both have me pegged perfectly.

If either of you is ever in the DC area, send me an e-mail. It would be interesting to get together face to face.

Safer for you to meet me in Detroit! :D

"asides for the killings, it has a pretty low crime rate".

That ALWAYS kills me!~ (not litteraly of course.)

I think much of this "disagreement" was you seeing us goofing off and not taking the time to understand who and what we are.

I used to get the "eye roll" from my co-workers all the time because I was "wasting time" to do a complete, and orderly job everytime regardless of if the user was in a hurry or not. Running cables, when new cables had to be run, the users would request me because you didn't SEE cables and I didn't have to go back and redo the ends because they weren't done correctly during instillation.

My fire putting out daily is almost non-existent where my coworkers would everyday have to "oh yeah, you have to run this to get that to work again" everyday. They see this and have started to follow MY example. And here I am the one "wasting" all this time at TR.

Note, I am home and getting ready to go back in to run some reports while no one is there so it won't interfer with productivity.

peace.