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John Kerrys true Colors - For American Voters and Bush Haters

By JimHM ·
Kerry's finger
"Democratic senator ? and certain presidential nominee ? John F. Kerry, gave the middle finger to a Vietnam veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day morning," reported yesterday. "Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 9 a.m. Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, 'Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here.'

"At that point, a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN T-shirt," NewsMax reported. "Kerry then began talking to a group of schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to the children and said, 'Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam.'

"Just then, Kerry ? in front of the schoolchildren, other visitors and Secret Service agents ? brazenly 'flashed the bird' at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, 'Sampley is a felon!'

"Kerry was referring to an incident 12 years ago when Sampley confronted Sen. John McCain's chief aide, Mark Salter, in a Senate stairwell after McCain repeatedly offended POW families at a Senate POW hearing. Sampley, whose father-in-law at that time was MIA in Laos, followed Salter into the stairwell and, when they emerged, Salter had a bloody lip and a broken nose."

Ah - The Man that Wants to be King - A real American Coward! Hanoi John - He should of Married Jane Fonda...

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Kerry is human

by JamesRL In reply to For those that want a lin ...

If the news report is correct, Kerry was provoked.

Kerry served and was a veteran too. He had every right to be there. He had the right to campaign there without being harassed or assaulted. And again if the new report you link to is correct there is evidence that the gentleman in question has committed agravated assault.

So Kerry reacted in a human way to being insulted and harrassed repeatedly.

Here in Canada, our Prime Minister once choked a protester. Not saying it was the right thing to do, but it was human. And his popularity didn't suffer. Another Prime Minister told an opposition member to F&%K *ff in the House of Commons, which Hansard recorded as Fuddle Duddle. Again, his popularity didn't suffer because people recognized that people bait and try to arouse people in the house, and its human nature that sometimes tempers are lost. Again his popularity did not suffer.

If you want to ask me which I think is worse, a drunk driving conviction or flipping someone the finger, I can tell you which one I'd prefer.


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Be Honest would you say the same thing if Bush did that

by JimHM In reply to Kerry is human

Be Honest - would you say the same thing if Bush would of done it?

I think not - you wouldn't say he was human - only liberals are permitted those indescressions - such as BJ's in the Oval Office - Lieing to Congress - and Backroom deals with China... and Child abuse by the UN in the Congo...

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Shoe on the other foot...

by mrbill- In reply to Be Honest would you say t ...

What would be your stand if Bush had done it?

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Honestly - he would lose my respect and vote

by JimHM In reply to Shoe on the other foot...

Honestly he would lose my respect and vote - that was very immature and childish thing to do. And what gets me is the Liberals will defend him for doing it - Sampley was wrong in attacking him infront of the children as well - should of waited until he was finished ...

But that doesn't excuse Kerry from the Childish and immature act that he did.

I believe Bush has more integrity and would never do something that stupid - but if he had - Loses my vote and my respect..

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Yes I would

by JamesRL In reply to Be Honest would you say t ...

I've never in my life voted anything but for the Progressive Conservative party - I didn't vote for either of those prime ministers I mentioned. And first reaction to the Liberal prime minister who strnagled the protester was - didn't know he had that big a temper. But after reflection, I remembered someone broke into his house(past the RCMP guard), and he was publicly hit by a cream pie(humiliating).

And if you want to talk indescretions you ommitted Ford pardoning Nixon, Reagun and selling arms to Iran to pay for weapons for Contras in Nicaraugua(and at the same time demonizing Iran, and selling weapons, including BIOLOGICAL AGENTS to Iraq while Iran and Iraq were at war). As to HW Bush, I'm sure while he was at the CIA he had the chance to do alot of things we probably don't want to know about, and he certainly knew about Reagan's involvement in Iran Contra and lied about it under oath.

You are so hard on Clinton - do you feel the same about Ike - he had an affair with his war time secretary for years, it was fairly open. Patton the same by the way. We don't need to go into Kennedy - its on the record. LBJ was involved in vote rigging scandals back in Texas. Do you claim Nixon was a saint?

Lets be honest with one another - power corrupts, and neither republicans or democrats have a monopoly on these kinds of problems.


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Pot callin gthe kettle black

by Oz_Media In reply to Be Honest would you say t ...

Jim , I really wish you could step outside your body and look in. YOu would see that you discount people for the exact same reasons that you stand for GWB.

GWB is a liar and a cheat, Kerry is a liar and a cheat, but somehow you feel that Deocrats are blind for supporting him no matter what. Well that EXACTLY what you do without any diffrence for GWB. YOU simply REFUSE to accept ANY alternative opinions as they are just Comie lefties, how about researching the accusations OUTSIDE of the white house and Democratic sites and just looking for facts and documentation.

YOu would see GWN no differently than Kerry, a liar, a cheat, a snake and overall bottom feeder politician. THey have got to be the lowest for of creting known to man, yet we let them run our nations.

Whatever, they are all a bunch of knobs that creat SOME good but lots of bad and selfish decisions. Ignore them and let them do thier thing, once they aren't praised and supported, maybe they will become a little humbler like our PM's, they aren't heros, they are held one notch above a 7-11 clerk. Just some goof with a career in the deception of politics. It's like trying to pick a spy, how can you tell if he's straight up or not, you could be screwed at any time.

Get them out of the spotlight that they thrive under.

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from a VietNam Veteran

by sbi-limited In reply to Be Honest would you say t ...

Rather than get into a useless i-sided debate,I suggest you read the valid and frightening books written by GW Bush's own staff members after they decided integrity was more important than loyalty to the administration. I've come to some very disturbing conclusions about our current President and VP. GW is a liar, a cheat, a phony, and worst of all, a coward (during the Vietnam conflict. Today, he and his administration work in secret, and when their decisions are revealed, they lie and lie and when finally confronted with evidence, they back off and change their story. Never "we were wrong", never "We're sorry". Just more bad leadership.

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Interesting - and John tossing his medals

by JimHM In reply to from a VietNam Veteran

And John tossing his medals - then changing his mind about it - then changing it again - I did - I didn't - they were the medals - no they were just the ribbons - getting 4 PH's in 6 months - how many scratches and toe fungus did he have...

Hum - interesting - BS of yours - from a brother vet..

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3 PH's was a ticket outta' there

by maxwell edison In reply to Interesting - and John to ...

John Kerry's commanding officer, at the time, questioned Kerry's first Purple Heart, which he earned for a wound received just two weeks after arriving in Vietnam.

"He had a little scratch on his forearm, and he was holding a piece of shrapnel," recalled Kerry's commanding officer, Lieutenant Commander Grant Hibbard. "People in the office were saying, `I don't think we got any fire,' and there is a guy holding a little piece of shrapnel in his palm." Hibbard said he couldn't be certain whether Kerry actually came under fire on Dec. 2, 1968, the date in question, and that is why he said he asked Kerry questions about the matter.

But Kerry persisted and, to his own "chagrin," Hibbard said, he dropped the matter. "I do remember some questions, some correspondence about it," Hibbard said. "I finally said, `OK, if that's what happened . . . do whatever you want.' After that, I don't know what happened. Obviously, he got it, but I don't know how."


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