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Linux, which to choose?

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Ha, this one will open new frontiers?
I've been a Windows follower for too long (Since Windows 2.0). XP is NOT getting in. Being fedup with BSOD, the never ending attemps of BG playing the new messiah.
I want to get Linux in the lab, starting to play with it. I admit on the spot: my knowledge abt Linux is 0.0
Thats where I need help from you guys (and ladies).
Which Linux do I get? Which side applications are a must and where do I get them?
FYI: I want to set it up on a removable Harddisk 6 Gig, on a Pentium III -500Mhz, 384 Mb RAM

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by js1

it depends on what you want.

I have Linux SuSE 7.2 because it has rich multi media oppertunities and programms. it has Sun star office as a standard package and it has a very user friendly GUI and installion version. But before you begin workingwith linux I recommend you to purchase a book about linux and it's shell.

by ghlbeyerlein

I'm in a similar boat. I have TurboLinux 6.1 (free), but haven't installed yet (*slacker*). But, many of my college housemates run Mandrake and a couple run Red Hat. http://www.arstechnica.com (look for Open Forum) has some really good discussions on Windows vs. Linux vs. Unix & some Mac OS-X.

Good luck :)

- GB

by bryan guffey

...is one of the easiest to get up and running. I'd definately recommend spending the $30 for a boxed distribution though - the "getting started" books are almost an essential if you're new to it.

I'd recommend installing EVERYTHING on the firstattempt. There's nothing more frustrating than not having what you need installed, then having to figure out how to install it when you don't know what you're doing yet. I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty confident that 6gb will handle it.

Lastly, learn how to use 'linuxconf'. Until you've learned the ins'n'outs of the config files, it's an outstanding cheater. Linuxconf installs with the stock installation if you install EVERYTHING...

Sounds like you should have more than enough machine to do it. Good luck.

by not_really

I had a chance to do the same thing you are doing. Lab testing of Linux, but which distro? First, don't buy any of them. Download the ISO files and burn your own CDs (see www.linux.org and follow link for distributions).

Second, try the most popular distros

Mandrake - easy GUI install, most popular

Red Hat - again, easy GUI install, most commercial success

SuSE - simple takes away lots of the guesswork
Caldera - simple and easy GUI, highly recommend the eDesktop version

Best Linux - surprisingly fast running version, only one I found that utilizes Windows key on keyboard.

Slackware - don't even bother, text-based install is too confusing

That's all I have done. Try Sun Solaris and let me know how that goes, I was never able to get it working.

Whatever distro you end up with, use StarOffice from Sun, that's the best productivity suite.

My personal choice right now is Mandrake 8.1

Good luck :-)

by midia1

The newest Suse distro has the Best, clearest, most thorough documentation ! bar none.

by hannahannasystemlogs

I have enjoyed the freebies from mandrake, it is based on red hat and has a customised GUI.

Check this site out, if I had the spare cash I would certainly go for the ProSuite 8.1

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by bart.pittari

www.linuxiso.org is a good place to download ISO's and burn them. I've done the download and burn thing with Mandrake and it is very easy to install. The other 2 that are easy as pie to install and get are SuSE and, of course, Red Hat.

by bart.pittari

www.linuxiso.org is a good place to download ISO's and burn them. I've done the download and burn thing with Mandrake and it is very easy to install. The other 2 that are easy as pie to install and get are SuSE and, of course, Red Hat.

by comptech3

I normally use Red Hat for my Linux boxes, but I was turned on to Mandrake 8.1 by a friend.

For the first-time Linux dabbler, Mandrake has a very nice tutorial and the installation is very nice. If you insert the Mandrake CD on a Windows system and the media autostarts, you will find a cool tutorial that is well worth the reading.

However, as with any Linux distribution, it is paramount to always read the documentation. Otherwise, you will find yourself being pelted with rude remarks directing you to "RTFM" when you post a question in a newsgroup.

by david.planchon

Hi,

I have been using Linux for several years now.

I think that if You want to learn go with the most common distributions. If You need help it will be easier.
Then the next thing is do You want to learn the networking side or the workstationside.

Red Hat is the Network server king, Suse in my opinion is the best for Workstation. I don't perticularly like Mandrake but I am told it's ok.

Just a word of advice don't expect to find things to be smooth in Linux. Sure the OS itself is stable but some of the programs do require some tweaking.

Good luck,

david

by grizzlybear

I too was pro-microsoft, although I find XP to be great but enough about that. Since attending a technical school, I have setup and configued most Linux platforms. I've been rather impressed with them and recommend you go to linuxiso.iso site. Thereyou will find all flavors and be able to download what ever flavor you want. I am currently running Mandrake 8.1 on a laptop and loving it. Wish you the best!
Morozco

by martintrjchv

For newbies I always recommend Mandrake, it's easy to install, but if you're really serious, take a look at Debian; it's the simply de best and with lots of packages. You may say it's older than other distros, but have an eye that Debian it's not a commercial distro, it's a work of faith. And if you're really a nuts guy, Why don't build your own Linux? C'mon, try Linux From Scratch.

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by leightonn

I've been meaning to ask that question myself. I'm not totally new to this linux thing, as while an undergraduate I fiddled around with Mandrake and Yellow Dog (for MacIntosh!) It's been a over a year though and since being dragged into the working world, I've not had the chance to do much work with it.
I've decided to re-introduce myself to this 'UX' because of my current job role (systems administrator) for a small company. Frankly I'm not fond of Microsoft's 'breaking' Windows! I've tried all flavours and none of them suit my taste.
I've convinced the 'bigger heads' to let me do some 'testing and research' into this Linux phenonmenon...I think the FREE part was the hook!
So I've armed myself with both Red Hat Linux 7.1 and Mandrake 8.1 and will shortly be testing the waters at some installations. Wish me luck!
I'll let you know the outcome.

by dgerson2

As part of a project with one of my clients, I took the plunge (not new to Unix, was a BSD SysAdmin and developer in the late 80s). We tried SUSE, RedHat, Caldera and build our own. What we found was RedHat had the largest general support community, Caldera had the best desktop of Windows trained users and Suse had the best server install. We tried to build our own, but gave up when we ran into "device driver heck". I would say, stay with a packaged release. If High Availability (like for a Web Server or DB Server) is needed, SuSE and RedHat have commercial HA releases that work very well and are nearly as bulletproof as the UNIX versions.

by annieg9

To Linux Venturer,
There's now an impressive range of Linux dist's from which to make your choice.
It's my experience,especially in regard to recent versions, that they're all good,but very similar(so they should be, as we are referring to one OS, varying a bit in presentation,added bells & whistles (+ of course the different little logo pictures - ie the lizard-type,iguana-type,armadillo-type thingie of SuSE,to TurboLinux's beaked bird's head,to the shadowed hatted man in RedHat, etc...)
Ihave installed & used SuSE, TurboLinux, Corel Linux & Red Hat OS's, + dabbled in Mandrake. All installed without problem with good support resources. If you want the Penguin's OS with heaps of additional software,then go for SuSE. The SuSE release Ipurchased in April,last year contained 6 CD's,holding 1300 extra programs, inc StarOffice, boot floppies,& user manual. Retailed Redhat has 3 CD's, boot floppy & good hardcopy user handbook/manual(s). You can download most,if not all of these from the approp. Linux websites as you may the other distributions.

To come to the point,despite my statement that they are all essentially good Linux distributions, I have a fondness &/or preference for Red Hat. Whether purchased in boxed form, or downloaded from the website, you'll 'get the goods',& the online support is excellent. So Red Hat is my personal preference.

I hope my post didn't add confusion to curiosity. Truly I believe, irrespective of the number of individual distributions, that Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux...,& whichever of these you finally select, it won't let you down.
regards,
annie

by dgerson2

From what I can see they are also behind on kernel updates compared to RedHat and SuSE. I have RedHat 7.2 on my Laptop and it runs great. I have Caldera and RedHat on a Server/firewall and they both work fine. Red Hat has better support and a more active user community.

by sleekmouse

Get a copy of RedHat 7.1 from one of the "CDs at cost" merchants like http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk or http://www.cheapbytes.com. Install and play with both Gnome and KDE so you can join in the holy wars over which is the better desktop. Download Star Office 6 beta from http://www.sun.com/download/ for your "MS-Office" replacement. Download an evaluation copy of Win4Lin from http://www.netraverse.com to convince yourself you can still run legacy Windows apps you haven't found a Linux replacement for yet.

If you're looking to roll out Linux across a network, download the software from the Linux Terminal Server Project http://www.ltsp.org. Take a couple of 486's from the obsolete pile in the office and amaze your colleagues by running them as thin clients off your server.

Show the lot to your bosses / finance boys and watch them rub their eyes in disbelief. Accept with humility when they offer you promotion and a massive pay increase.

Remember: be tough on Microsoft; be tough on the causes of Microsoft.

The Mouse

by fu.bar

You said: "Download an evaluation copy of Win4Lin from http://www.netraverse.com to convince yourself you can still run legacy Windows apps you haven't found a Linux replacement for yet. "

From Netraverse's site:

"Although evaluation copies ofWin4Lin are not available, NeTraverse offers a 30-day money back guarantee and full purchase refund upon request."

by kat

LibraNet is easy to install. It is based on debian, which is the mother of all linux. It has the best package management tool, and this is what separates the different distros. Linux is Linux. It is the package management that separates them. LibraNet can be downloaded, but I recommend buying the cd ($20.00 now). It comes with over 2 Gigs of applications. There is email support available. The debian library has over 4500 applications in it, and it is all available for download. I'd also reccomend buying the StarOffice cd from LibraNet for $7.00. GoTo: www.Libranet.com

by cgi¤001

Thank you, all, Ladies and Gents!!!
Got great info, including download addys!
I'm impressed! I'm sure the info posted, will be highly appreciated by others as well.

by wendell

I try with Red Hat 7,2, Corel Linux Second Edition , Suse 7.1, Solaris 8 to PC, and Mandrake 8.1.

I think Mandrake is the best option this software detect everything in my PC, USB, CDRW, AGP Video Card, NetWork Card, SCSI and more.

I so simplyto install and so easy to use.

Try with this one first.

by elomis

As far as I can see in terms of my own personal experience and the opinions of peers, the Mandrake distros are good for users porting over from MS Slavery.
It supports a lot of the simple, day-to-day functions that windows users rely on and don't realise such as alt+tab to switch between open applications etc.

If you don't want to be baby-sat into Linux, try redhat... it is still user friendly and infinitley customizable and as far as trial and error goes you can have a hellofa afternoon working through it.

Cheers
Geordie Guy

by john gordon

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. You have convinced me that I should experiment with Linux. It appears that the choice is between Red Hat, SUSE and Mandrake.
However which one offers the most/best 'bells and whistles' like a web browser, email, web design package, word processor, spreadsheet, etc

I need to get the 'extras' on CD as I have only a 56K modem and big downloads are out of the question.

by not_really

Those 3 distros are usually available retail at your local CompUSA, Best Buy, or equivalent. Were I thee I'd go shopping and compare features on the backs of boxes and price. Red Hat, SuSE and Mandrake all have tons of extra open-source apps in their retail package. Be sure to look for Star Office 5.2 and Netscape unless you want to rely on KOffice and Konqueror software that comes in the KDE desktop. Nothing wrong with that but if you need a more windows-like app...

You can't go wrong with any of the three, and as someone said earlier in this discussion, Linux is Linux... 90% or more of your experience will be the same regardless of your choice.

Good Luck!

by dgerson2

I would suggest you try purchasing a build with a "how to book" at a major book store like Borders, B&N, etc. This is the easiest way and includes lots of extras. In regards to wordprocessor, etc, give StarOffice a try. The CD can be bought off the Sun Microsystems Website or its included in several of the commercial builds like Red Hat and Caldera.

by grayceworkss

I've tried several, and mandrake is by far the easiest install, and walks you through all the configuration with wizards, etc. i just installed mandrake 7.2 on an already dual-boot win98/win2k, and it runs great. sound and internet and everything.

by ghlbeyerlein

I've had really good luck with Mandrake 9.x and recently with 10.x, as have many of my friends who have been running Linux since the mid-90s.

My colleagues have had great luck with Fedora 2. I think that they ended up putting Fedora 2 on their new AMD 64-bit based laptop. They tried Red Hat white box, but I don't think that it recognized some of the drivers, being that it is based on the 2.4 kernel instead of the 2.6 kernel that Fedora 2 is based on.

I've heard nothing but good things about SuSe. I've not tried it yet though.

Once I get a solid secondary workstation set-up, I'm planning on having it set-up with Mandrake 10.x. I had my primary workstation set-up with dual boot to XP & Mandrake, but ended up putting it back on 100% XP since not everyone in the house could figure out how to get to the XP Partition and their documents and stuff.

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