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November 4, 2005 at 4:24 pm #2179188
Modern day Rasists and race baiters
Lockedby jdclyde · about 17 years, 7 months ago
I was listening to the Rosa Parks memorial, and I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. A bunch of low-lifes using her life and death to get their faces back into the public eye.
The “honorable” Rev. Sharpton proceeded to claim that people that oppose “affirmative action” are the racists today, and the enemy of the black american today.
Does oppossing reverse-discrimination make you a racist?
Later on came the “honorable” Rev. Jackson and suprised me less with WHAT he said as much as HOW he said it. The Rev Jackson, is undesputably a well educated man, and is very articulate. For this particular show, he had “dumbed down” his speech. Instead of the clear, educated man that I am accustom to hearing and seeing, it was instead the talk of a poorly educated man, in a pathetic attempt to reach his listeners?
In general, it was nice to pay tribute to this woman. There were many times though when she was not the reason people were there. It was to push their OWN agendas.
Did you listen to or see this tribute?
What did you think?
Were these people great men standing up for a great cause or were they snake-oil salesmen out only for themselves?Also, did they HELP or HURT what they claimed to be supporting?
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November 6, 2005 at 6:24 pm #3136336
I didn’t watch much of it
by absolutely · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Modern day Rasists and race baiters
But as long as collectivism in any particular manifestation (racism, sexism class warfare, religious bigotry, etc.)is taken seriously, there will be opportunists cashing in on emotional responses to the misfortunes associated with the [i]collectives[/i] with which the greatest number of [i]individuals[/i] voluntarily identify.
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November 7, 2005 at 4:40 am #3136896
Rev. Al
by charliespencer · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Modern day Rasists and race baiters
Al Sharpton is interested purely in his own self-promotion through the exploitations of others, not unlike a papparazzi photographer, a boxing promoter, or other form of social leech.
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November 7, 2005 at 5:30 am #3136856
“self-promotion through the exploitations of others”
by absolutely · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Rev. Al
Does he own slaves? Can you not change the channel?
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November 7, 2005 at 6:06 am #3136811
As usual, I failed to express my point clearly
by charliespencer · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to “self-promotion through the exploitations of others”
I didn’t mean he was exploiting television viewers. He gains publicity by associating himself with the problems of others, exploiting their difficulties for his personal gain. Those he taken advantage of include disaster victims, victims of police abuse, people denied government benefits they are legally entitled to, etc. Some would say he is fighting for these disadvantaged people. I would ask, “If he is fighting for them, why does he always show up AFTER the problem has gained media attention? Why doesn’t he take action before the TV cameras show up? Why doesn’t he stick around for the long haul, instead of leaving when the reporters are gone?”
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November 7, 2005 at 6:46 am #3136761
And how would
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to “self-promotion through the exploitations of others”
ME changing the channel stop him from exploiting people as I am NOT the one he is exploiting?
As for slaves, he is responsible for people being as good as slaves when it comes to liberating themselves from poverty.
Lots of ways to exploit people, and mr. Sharpton has jumped all over it.
Are you actually defending this “man”?
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November 7, 2005 at 7:41 am #3136713
I don’t think so
by charliespencer · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to And how would
I don’t think Absolutely was defending Sharpton as much as pointing out there was no reason for television viewers to allow themselves to be exploited.
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November 8, 2005 at 7:19 am #3137139
Slavery
by beads · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to And how would
If in particular these two “gents” want to do something about slavery why not work to end MODERN DAY (emphasis, not yelling) slavery in places like Southeast Asia and Central and Western Africa?
Ok. The reverends can get back to me on that one.
– beads
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November 7, 2005 at 8:44 am #3136675
i totally agree
by rolloverman · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Rev. Al
you think this old conversation thought would of left the world by now but it hasnt we still have the same problem and more and more public reconized people are using it to make headlines why dont they just stop and let it disapper
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November 7, 2005 at 5:30 am #3136855
Didn’t watch it
by itgirli · about 17 years, 6 months ago
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I wouldn’t waste my time listening to either of them in the first place. Everyone has their own agenda these days. The country is headed for the crapper. I’m so sick of it that I’m goig to go and buy a bunch of land up in the mountains and start my own community.
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November 7, 2005 at 6:57 am #3136747
just make sure
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Didn’t watch it
you have a clear line of fire for the approach to the complex.
Barbed wire goes on the left, landmines go on the right.
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November 7, 2005 at 7:02 am #3136741
trees
by itgirli · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to just make sure
nearest trees will be out of range, I want to see them coming.
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November 7, 2005 at 8:56 am #3136668
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November 7, 2005 at 9:23 am #3136648
Not much left of the Davidian compound
by m_a_r_k · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Got the perfect spot
Just a pile of ashes surrounded by an empty field.
What would the boats be for?
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November 7, 2005 at 10:39 am #3136583
Global Warming, Of Course
by charliespencer · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Not much left of the Davidian compound
After the icecaps melt, Waco will be underwater.
Noah to neighbors, “I can’t tell you what it’s for, but here’s a hint: how long can you tread water?”
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November 7, 2005 at 8:05 am #3136700
Started to but
by antuck · about 17 years, 6 months ago
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When Sharpton came on I had to stop watching. I get really tired of hearing these racists cry racisim. The two mentioned, Sharpton and Jackson, use the cameras to try and keep racisim alive for there own good, what ever that may be.
The reverse discrimination otherwise known as affrimative action, really makes me laugh. Lets see, lets make discrimination legal but only when it benifits a certian race. Otherwise, we scream racisim, pull the race card out and wave it in your face.
Does that really make any sense based on what has been learned through the years?
What is odd is there definition of racism. When I hear them cry racism and watch what they do to other races, my thought is, racism defined by them means that ONLY when something is done to black people can it be considered racism.
But accroding to Websters dictonary, it is defined as “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race”
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/racismNo where does it state ONLY when something is done against blacks. By there very actions they are the racists.
I think they are the snake-oil salesmen only out for themselves.
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November 7, 2005 at 8:08 am #3136697
I didn’t watch it
by jck · about 17 years, 6 months ago
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I heard Sharpton and Jackson were going to be there. I knew what it would end up being.
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November 7, 2005 at 9:30 am #3136644
I did
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I didn’t watch it
I listen to people with views different from my own. Too bad more people don’t.
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November 7, 2005 at 9:39 am #3136637
I’m glad you
by jck · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I did
can be judgemental.
I’ve heard Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton talk many many times, and it is the same everytime.
BTW, I tried to agree with you there. Guess you are just looking to start something?
You want my title as master baiter? 🙂
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November 7, 2005 at 11:09 am #3137578
Don’t need a title
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I’m glad you
I already have a windshield wiper installed on my monitor…. :O
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November 7, 2005 at 11:27 am #3137566
I guess
by jck · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Don’t need a title
the company paid for that too???
BTW…you gotta tell me how to justify that…cause, i’m gonna start telecommuting soon…wanna get a free one at my house.
Who cares what happens to the work monitor…so long as my 19″ LCD stays clean ]:)
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November 7, 2005 at 1:28 pm #3137481
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November 7, 2005 at 1:33 pm #3137473
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November 7, 2005 at 9:34 am #3136641
I hear how bad racism is in the US
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Modern day Rasists and race baiters
from people like OZ, on the outside looking in.
I hear it from bleeding heart liberals.
They make it sound like there is still slavery in the US and we should all hang our heads in shame.
Then I hear about the genocides going on in other countries. I hear about how the different factions in Iraq are against each other.
I come back to looking at the US, and see that we have it pretty damm good. We don’t find mass graves of any ethnic groups here.
God Bless the USA.
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November 8, 2005 at 12:30 pm #3135853
I was here fifty years ago.
by dc guy · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I hear how bad racism is in the US
Yes there is still racism here. We have not become a perfect society yet.
But I was alive fifty years ago. I remember how things were back then. Compared to that, what we have today is a paradise.
Do not be disappointed that we have not yet achieved perfection. Be glad that with each decade that passes, we get closer to it.
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November 7, 2005 at 9:36 am #3136639
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
by m_a_r_k · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Modern day Rasists and race baiters
I didn’t pay attention to any of it but as soon as I got to the word “low-lifes” in your second sentence, two names immediately came to mind: Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Neither has ever been elected to public office. Both have been involved in questionable personal or financial activities. Seems like they show up whenever there’s an opportunity for free publicity. Do these guys really represent African-Americans or blacks in general?
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November 8, 2005 at 8:49 am #3137046
I hope not
by dr dij · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton
as they’ve spouted racist comments themselves.
And the permanent victim thing? get over it!
I never did anything to any race of people and no ancestors I know of ever did either!Riots because someone who fled at 110 mph is arrested happens to be one color or ethnic origin? Really stupid, and fanned by these guys.
Most people are not racists nowadays. Most of the few that are still are not in a position to hold them down, not the people who hire, etc.
Be all you can be and people don’t really care what color you are
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November 7, 2005 at 10:46 am #3136575
I can’t resist
by montgomery gator · about 17 years, 6 months ago
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JD, you know you and I agree on a lot of things, and your post here is right on the money.
However, I can’t resist: What is a Rasist? Is is someone who does not like raisins? 🙂
It is sad, though, that these race-baiters use an occasion where they should be honoring a great and courageous woman and instead engage in racist demagoguery.
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November 7, 2005 at 11:16 am #3137571
Oh yeah
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to I can’t resist
pick on the publicly educated person in the group! ;\
Spelling is not my strong suit (I know this comes as a big shock to many of you!).
I am good at logic functions.
There isn’t any logic or coherent thought when it comes to the “english” language, as we know it in the US. After allowing any immigrant over the last few hundred years to bring over any word or spelling of those words, it is all pooched! Rules that say it is this way, unless it isn’t. Hmmmmm.
But as for the whole occasion, it really was sad that Louis Faracon was more respectful than Jackson and Sharpton! Now THAT is saying something for you. Faracon is the guy running around saying they BLEW the leavies in New Orleans to let the presure out so it wouldn’t flood the white neighborhoods! What a NUTTER!
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November 8, 2005 at 7:11 am #3137151
Publick educashun
by montgomery gator · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Oh yeah
I be publicky educashed liek u, and I done learnt good, too!! 🙂
K-12 Dade County (Florida) Public Schools
BS (Forestry) University of Florida
MS (Forestry) State University of New York
MS (CIS) Troy State University MontgomeryAnyway, JD, you still spell better than our friends from the Commonwealth countries, at least you don’t insert the letter “u” all over the place. I had to use a spell checker when I was working at the University of London (work-exchange) for 6 months to make sure I spelled everything wrong like they do over there! 🙂
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November 8, 2005 at 8:35 am #3137066
just so they don’t feel left out
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Publick educashun
in hono(u)r of our friends across the water, I try to bracket the unneeded U. A little something for everyone?
I think we should get rid of letters, and change the rules for others.
P should NEVER sound like an F
C is unneeded and should be illegal. Sometimes an S and sometimes a K? Oh yeah, lots of thought went into that one.
If your not in Mexico, you are NOT allowed to pronounce the letter J as an H.Oh, I could go on……
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November 8, 2005 at 9:13 am #3137022
P like an F
by montgomery gator · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to just so they don’t feel left out
So, P should not sound like an F? Then how would Pfizer Pharmaceuticals be pronunced?
P-fizer P-harmaceuticals? That would be hard to say.
Then there is Price Pfister, “the Pfabulous Pfaucet with the Pfunny Name”. Your proposal is going to mess up some major corporations!!
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November 8, 2005 at 12:35 pm #3135845
I say
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to P like an F
take them all down and let them burn…..
And yes, even the cutesy names that people give products should be outlawed in the name of science!
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November 8, 2005 at 8:35 am #3137064
Tom, TSUM when?
by surflover · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Publick educashun
when were you at T-Roy-Tech?
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November 8, 2005 at 9:09 am #3137027
TSUM
by montgomery gator · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Tom, TSUM when?
I was at TSUM from 1996 to 1999, working part time on my MS in CIS degree. It was great, being able to go to classes at night, since it did not interfere with my day job. Are you a Troy State alum? They have campuses all over the world. Now call themselves Troy University, got all snobbish and dropped “State” from their name, but I still call them “Troy State”, because I am “old-school” 🙂
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November 8, 2005 at 12:19 pm #3135864
Sure Am !
by surflover · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to TSUM
At least part of my education, finished my CIS major there in the early 80s… Taught at Alabama State while I was in the capital of the confederacy too …THAT was interesting!!!… (I’m a 5’6″/150lb caucasian, with blue eyes and (at the time) relatively long blonde hair :^O)…
Also attended Michigan, Central Michigan, Center for Creative studies (Detroit), Auburn, Hawaii, Hawaii Pacific, Roosevelt U(in Hawaii), and S. Alabama (Mobile)…
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November 7, 2005 at 1:46 pm #3137463
Chris Rock
by mirrormirror · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Modern day Rasists and race baiters
Did anyone catch Chris Rock on Leno a few days ago? He was going on about hurricane Katrina and how GWB hates black and poor people. I do beleive that he even went so far as to say that the levies were blown up. I could be in error on that tho. What I know is that Leno’s face went stone still and white while Chris Rock saw spouting insanity. I know Chris Rock is just another Hollywood weirdo but because of his celebrity, he has an automatic platform for his stupidity. It makes me mad!
Sharpton and Jackson are doing nothing but hurting what they claim to be supporting. They want to make white people slaves to guilt over black slavery or any other perceived racial wrong against the black man. I supposed in their eyes turn about is fair play. Especially if they can profit from it.
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November 7, 2005 at 7:35 pm #3137340
Backfiring
by jdclyde · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Chris Rock
played this game for too long, too many times.
The “whites” with any intelligence realize that they had nothing to do with slaver, and thus have no guilt to feel for what happened to people that have been dead for a century.
People are tired of hearing it, and enough is enough.
Reparations? To whom? There aren’t any slaves left! Or at least not in America. You need to go to other countries to see slaves.
No relative of mine ever was a slave owner either, so I don’t even have guilt by accociation. Guess these people will just have to actually get a job like everyone else.
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November 8, 2005 at 7:15 am #3137146
50 Cent
by montgomery gator · about 17 years, 6 months ago
In reply to Backfiring
At least 50 Cent has some common sense. He blasted Kanye West for his comments that “George Bush doesn’t care about black people”.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-11-02-50-cent-kanye-west_x.htm?POE=LIFISVA
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