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by jsutton93

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First off, this is coming from someone who has never really had much to do when it comes time to vote (till now). I've never really called myself a Democrat, or a Republican. I post this as an incite to others, and possibly to get some incite on what type of person I am, and how to vote this year. This is a non-bios view on the current facts that I have been able to research, given the time, and accessibility of such facts.

I've been reading the threads here about the president, GWB and candidate Kerry. I can't help but to feel frustration after reading all the comments about both GWB and Kerry. As a citizen of the United States, I feel it is a very important decision for us all to make the "BEST" choice for our next president. While trying to make my decision of who our next president should be, I did research on both men.

As far as Bush goes, I watched all the movies by Michael Moore, like Fahrenheit 911, The Big One, and even watched a movie called Out Foxed. I?m glad I watched The Big One because it proves that Michael Moore acts in the best interest of "the people". He seeks the truth, only to benefit "the people". These movies were given to me by a Democrat and wants Bush out of office. I am thankful for the opportunity this person has given me to see one view, and it gave me the chance to disprove any, or all facts that came up while researching Bush and why Democrats don?t want him in office.

I browsed websites for Bush, and read all the good things they have to say about bush. What he is for and what he is against. I wish I could find more about what Bush has really done to improve our country other then security, but I can't find much. All they can really say is, ?Your safe now! You?re family is safe now because of GWB?. I agree, we might be safe for now, but we didn?t stop the ?real? threat which is what I though we started out to do. I feel we didn?t finish our original job of taking out Bin Landen, we strayed from our goal. So no, I really don?t feel safe, not for a second.

Was it a waste to take out Saddam? No. That guy was evil, and he needed to go. But, I think that if we would have taken out Bin Laden first, Bush would have probably been able to get support to take out the ?supports? of terrorist like Saddam also.

As for Kerry. All I really see that looks good are his intensions. Actually like others have said here, it?s a ?perfect world? that Kerry paints with his plans for the next four years. Anyone can paint a picture of a perfect world. Even Bush had a picture painted when he was running for president didn?t he? They all have one! It?s the one that can carry those plans out to the best of their abilities that I want for president. There, lies my frustration.

I want a president and congressmen that aren?t driven or influenced by money. I want senators that aren?t driven or influenced by money. Unfortunately, it seems like only rich people ever become president or senators. I want people in our government that WANT to do the BEST they can to make the United States of America the BEST it can be and do things in the best interest of ?the people?, the world and its environment!! I just want HONEST people in charge!!! My future is important, but so is my son?s, and their son?s or daughters.

I see a lot more mistakes in Bush then I do Kerry, and I believe that?s only because Bush ?has? been president. No telling what Kerry?s mistakes will be if he becomes president. So, I?m still not happy that they are the only two on the ballot!! I?ve lost faith in the people who run for president, and congress! I feel like everyone is so dishonest!! Who do you vote for when you feel like everyone running your country is dishonest??

What good is it to keep our country safe while we?re killing the earth and the environment we live in? How about a president who can see past his lifetime??

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by thechas

Rather than invite more derision here at TR, I suggest that you give a few web sites a try.

These quizzes can help you weigh your personal views to see which candidate most closely matches your desired direction for the country.

http://www.votingcatholic.org/quiz_1.php?session_id=1292430212

http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/

http://www.presidentmatch.com/Main.jsp2?cp=main

I am sure that their are others. Perhaps a few peers can add their favorite political quiz to the list.

I have found the above quizzes to support my personal decision to not support President Bush.

My greatest fear is just how far to the right his potential appointments to the Supreme Court might be.

Chas

by maxwell edison

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I would advise you to NOT listen to any campaign commercials. Well, it's almost impossible to avoid them, but don't base your vote on them. They're mostly lies at worst, embellishments at best. (My son and I have fun laughing at many of them.)

I would advise you to do a gut-check, and write down a core set of beliefs, a core set of values, a core set of principles, whatever you want to call it. What do you stand for? What do you believe in? What direction do you think we, as a nation, should be going? Compare what you want as a nation to what we've been doing as a nation. Do you want more of the same or less of what we've been doing - whatever "it" may be? How does that compare to your list of core beliefs?

If you watched and tried to understand Michael Moore's movie, that's great. But do yourself a favor and familiarize yourself with the opposing view. Here is about the best one I've ever seen. Believe one side or the other, but at least look at both sides.

http://www.davidkopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

And this is about the best issues comparison Web site I've seen. You can compare one candidate's views, beliefs and records to the other candidate's views, beliefs and records without partisan commentary from anyone.

Home page:

http://www.issues2000.org/default.htm

For George Bush:

http://www.issues2000.org/George_W__Bush.htm

For John Kerry:

http://www.issues2000.org/John_Kerry.htm

Some people think voting party line has more merit than voting for the individual. (As a disclaimer, I'm one of them.) Here's a very good and interesting article called, "Why Party Trumps Person". Take it for what it's worth, and it may or may not convince you that voting party-line has merit.

http://www.850koa.com/shows/rosen/party-trumps-person.html#trumps

How does each candidate - or party - compare to your list of beliefs and your desired direction for the country?

Answer that question, and there ya' go. That's who you vote for.

By the way, yours is a great question, and one that many people have, but few may ask. Kudos to you for asking it.

by one.bad.unit

I feel your pain in making the decision process. When I had decided to take a more serious interest in my voting, I found myself swaying back and forth and wanting to rip my hair out.

Max's post was awesome (pros to you Max). Some good sites on there filled with a lot of information. And I have to agree with him 100% you sit and decided what your beliefs are, a solid gut check, and then see which one fulfills most of them. Thats what I did and know exactly who I am voting for... but I'll keep it a secret =)

by black panther

No matter how much you read, how much media you watch, how much investigation you put in --- in the end how well do any of us know the parties and politicians??

I always say Action Speaks louder than words.

If a party seems to be breaking promises and becomes complacent then Vote them out.

You will get %90 of the voters you will always vote for one party or another throughout their whole voting lifes. The other %10 ( called swing voters are the ones you decide is in power and swap voting preferences when they see fit ).

Everybody is different -- you may find you like the policies of one party over another and become a voter who always votes for the policies or you may become a swing voter.

good luck from Australia

by ccollins

If I were a yank I'd voter for neither. If you vote Nader you can sit in the pub with a look of smug self-satisfaction as everyone bitched about having a two party system. We have a Scots drunkard, a Romanian vampire and a demented ego-manic to choose from here. This is what makes Britain great...

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