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...lookin' good.

A little redundant, but suits it's purpose well. People are going to nag either way. My mouse hand has been trained in the old ways, so I've clicked on dead zones a couple of times.

Next on the agenda - I guess you guys need feedback on the 'resource' bar.

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by oz_media

I figured it had spanned due to misalagnment with the right-side table properties.

If this was done on purpose, uh cool I guess? I suppose new user links are kinda neat, a little easier than hitting your profile everytime. And the 'people' page will be useful for some I am sure.

How about workable SITE navgation system/bar/links though, 'one' would think that as a priority over user toys. But only 'one' of course.

by oz_media

Kinda cool I suppose, GREAT for website positioning if they add ALT tags to all the links, it will be a top 10 on many engines if submitted properly! I'v eseen this techinque used before to position portals, it is REALLY effective on Google if tagged properly.

It would be a LOT mroe effective if the list wad in aphabetical order instead of order of poularity though.

At this stage in the game, there are too many 1's and 2's for people to actually read through a hoard of topics to find a similar interest. Alphabetical would be FAR more effective and USER friendly, navigatable.

I gave it a full 7 or 8 seconds before I figured I was in an endless maze of link and I would be searching for ages to find a specific interest. Instead of just what everyone ELSE has in common with each other, how about what I am interested in finding in common with others instead?

by smorty71

Yeah, I said that it should be by popularity, then when I saw the page, I instantly knew that was a really bad idea. Look for that change to be made very soon.

And we will eventually shorten the lists to be the Top X interests. We just haven't figured out what X will be.

Thanks for the feedback,
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by house

Discussion and Technical Q&A are not really necessary. Would we rather see them in the new Nav bar or within the resource bar?

I wouldn't mind moving the new four over to the left, bumping the 'People' to the end as a fifth link, and maybe getting rid of the two redundant links in the Nav bar.

by oz_media

This way, seeing Tech Q&A in ALL the pages seems more prominent which MAY help.

I STILL think that SOME copy should be added to POST pages that states where to post questions and provides a link, even if clicking the link opens the Tech Q&A posting page directly or something.

It would make it easier for NEW users as they would get better responses by posting in the right place to begin with.

I see such a simple solution to all this, I am sure it wont STOP all misposted questions, there are always people who don't read properly, just look at the TCP/IP quiz (LOL)and they will always need people to hold them by the hand a lead them.

But I think it would HELP those who DO want to post properly in finding the correct route.

I cannot stress how much I see the importance of clear and simple navigation on websites. It is the VERY FIRST thing I look at on ANY site, 'how good is navigation?'

There is certainly no question that clear and concise navigation, including link names, is imperative for repeat visitors and visitor retention.

by house

Help - the emails from hell!!!

I use this function to mark a discussion for future (near-future) reference. Now, I cannot unsubscribe and I'm being spammed. ;)

by smorty71

What e-mails are you getting? The "subscribe to this thread" mails? Let me know what you are getting and we'll see what is going on.

Thanks,
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by house

1) my mistake - I forgot that the unsubscribe button was replaced with the 'remove' buttone within my profile

2) re: spam - just kidding - I use the 'subscribe' button to tag a discussion so that I can go back and check it out later - I was just joking around about the spam thing because I don't really need to receive notifications that someone has contributed to the subscribed thread.

One of my suggestions (and I don't know who else this may apply to) is to offer the ability to subscribe, but not receive email notifications for new activity

by oz_media

I just click my discussions and they ae listed by th emore recently posted to.

That way I see NEW content when I want to and not when I get email. I see no fidderence except that subscribing sends you email all the time. If I have time to visit TR, I stop in and check My Discussions anyway, the first few are going to be the most recent upadates.

I find I have absolutley NO need for an email reminder, checking in to My Discussions tells you VERY quickly what discussions have received new posts.

by house

...and I only subscribe if I do not have time to review the posts and make a contribution at that particular time.

by oz_media

I am sure many would use it, but personally I HATE chat rooms, I think they are soooooo......lame? I mediate one or two for bands from time to time but it's a complete joke to me. I think chat is tacky, just a personal issue.

Chat rooms, TO ME, seem like something for blue rinse, Bingo conversations or kiddies. I see them as hangouts for newbies with no friends.

by house

I agree. I have about 10 - 20 contacts in MSN and ICQ. I only use it for work for the most part, but I do have a few online buddies listed as well.

The groups idea seems interesting though... I'll probably make use of it initially just to see whether or not it's my game. I've never used any real-time chat boards in my life.

by apotheon

I would actually like to see four different preference settings spin off from the current discussion "subscription":

1. something exactly like what we have now

2. a limited subscription that only notifies a user of responses to his/her posts (this can be very difficult to accomplish, though, with the depth-limit on responses)

3. a "bookmark" list that allows users to keep track of topics of interest without getting email notifications

4. the ability to set a default subscription type that is automatically applied to every discussion to which one posts

This last is important to me: I would very much like to be "subscribed" to every single discussion to which I reply, with the option to unsubscribe. I keep forgetting to subscribe to discussions at first, and sometimes miss responses to which I would very much have liked to respond in a timely manner.

by house

"3. a 'bookmark' list that allows users to keep track of topics of interest without getting email notifications"

That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'l scan through the new stuff and mark it for later if I don't have time to post.

by smorty71

I have to agree about chat rooms. They seem to be a bit counter to what we want to do here which is provide an online resource for solving technical problems.

While one could argue that chat rooms allow more immediate attention to your technical problem, I think that chat rooms suffer from two inherent problems that minimize their effectiveness:

1. Timing: Everyone has to be on at the same time for them to work.

2. Archiving: There is no way for others to benefit from the dialogue (unless they want to read the (usually terrible) transcripts.

by apotheon

3. Annoyance: People that actually know stuff will be annoyed by others always asking questions in realtime and will mostly avoid the place.

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