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    Outsourced !!

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    by oz_media ·

    Well that’s it, Oz is a one man band.

    I have been working with two contracts (one a client of my main contract) and since the owner returned from Turkey, he has made a deal to outsource thier net support work to Turkey.

    C’est la vie.

    SO while I still have a fair residual income from music sales, I will be hitting the pavement once again and digging for a new clients/career, whether in IT or not.

    I will still be a regular pain in the a** on TR so no need to celebrate just yet.

    Options include moving to England and taking up music management F/T, fixing more cars at home, looking for new clients to manage networks for.

    I figure I have a lot of different skills and a good track record so if I decide to look for income now or in the New Year I doubt I will have many probs. BC has the highest employment rate around and they advertise BC on Canadian TV networks and brag of the high employment rate to other provinces to get people moving west so I am not too concerned.

    Anyway, don’t really know why I posted this but perhaps I am just venting a bit, thanks for listening.

    OM 🙂

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    • #3312744

      Holy moley!

      by mlandis ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      Hey there

      Are you out of that job already?

      You seem to have many more options than the average joe out there.

      I wish you lots of luck, and have a real Guinness for me. But as you point out, it’s not as if you are leaving TR.

      See you later,

      Maureen

      • #3312611

        Cheers

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Holy moley!

        Ag it’s not really that bad. I decided to move here berfore getting that contract anyway. I am hoping I don’t have to take a F/T job on the mainland or too far down island but I am not too concerned really.

        I am not a complacent person (no kidding?) I don’t like to stick with one thing, only had a temp contract to begin with etc. So as always in my history, on to bigger and better things. I am amused at how much these companies spent to bring the lines and equipment here though, especially since they now have to pull it all out at thier expense, including having hydro remove thier equipment too. Oh well, thier loss, I’m pretty bouncy so I am not worried.

        In fact I had a few pretty positive calls last night from people who heard we had parted ways, with some interesting opportunities although back in the city, ARRRRGH! Think I’ll take the rest of the year off anyway.

        Thanks for the positive words Maureen.

    • #3312676

      Crying crocodile tears

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      There seems to be lots of work out there in lala land.

      Surely you can go out and grab some. Perhaps you can get a letter of recommendation from Max….

      Seriously, I’ve there, and recently too. The main way to recover – network – call up old friends, old clients, collegues, whoever. Have lunch. Talk to them. Let them know that you are looking, without sounding desparate(real killer). Stay positive.

      I’ll be in Van at the end of the month.

      James

      • #3312609

        Thanks

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Crying crocodile tears

        I’m not too worried. I used to tech a job club and have most of the tricks up my sleeve. I have already had some positive calls from people I know that own nusinesses and need some support, I don’t know if I’m ready to move again though, I think I’ll stick it out here, I still have residential clients and some auto work to get caught up on anyway.

        How long will you be in Van? Maybe I can scoot over and meet up with you for a beer somewhere, I am going to be back and forth a bit networking some people in ‘the circle’. Drop me email if you know dates or anything.
        ozmedia@excite.com

    • #3312675

      Crying crocodile tears

      by jamesrl ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      There seems to be lots of work out there in lala land.

      Surely you can go out and grab some. Perhaps you can get a letter of recommendation from Max….

      Seriously, I’ve there, and recently too. The main way to recover – network – call up old friends, old clients, collegues, whoever. Have lunch. Talk to them. Let them know that you are looking, without sounding desparate(real killer). Stay positive.

      I’ll be in Van at the end of the month.

      James

    • #3312661

      Well Oz,

      by voldar ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      As you always said, shit happen every day in life, and we should be prepared. I know you already know that, and .. well, the truth is that in such times, there are not many words to say about.
      Just be YOU and all the bad we’ll turn on GOOD, my friend! I allways thought that “any kick in the a$$ is at least a step forward”, so … look forward and keep moving!

      • #3312607

        No sweat mate

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Well Oz,

        Ah, no problems. I am not really concerned, I know I can get busy if I need to, and yes it is always bigger and better the next time round.

        I got up today and the cool autumn morning literally took my breath away, I feel quite blessed to live in such an awesom place and am in no hurry to change anything. Jobs are starting to knock already though so I think the ball’s in my court again before I even have my raquet ready. 🙂

    • #3312621

      Oz….sorry to here it…

      by packet spoofer ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      Good luck on “hitting the pavement”…I am from michigan, which has had a particularly difficult time due to manufacturing job losses. Even though its manufacturing, It affects everone in the area pretty much…many manufacturing jobs have been outsourced…The good news here is that the job market in general seems to be picking up..anyway…..good luck!
      Poindexter

      • #3312605

        Good to hear

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Oz….sorry to here it…

        It’s good to hear things are picknig up for people there.
        Myself, no worries. I think I will end up turning down work so I can take some time off until at least the New Year, good severance and christmas residuals will be okay for now. At least I can get the rest of the wood split and stacked in the garage. :p

        • #3313126

          Sounds good!

          by packet spoofer ·

          In reply to Good to hear

          Better than sitting at a desk getting Carpal Tunnel…(or however you spell it)

        • #3313096

          Variety is good

          by cortech ·

          In reply to Good to hear

          Sorry to hear about the outsourcing, but it sounds like you have plenty of positive options, and at least you’ll have a bit of a holiday.

          Cheers.

    • #3312600

      good luck oz

      by greg_ross_sr ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      I’m sure you will find something. Maybe we can all become NHL replacement players! Who knows!

      Seriously,
      take care.

      All the best.
      -G

    • #3313278

      Sorry about your luck..perhaps this will help..

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      Things to Say at a Job Interview

      See photo of interviewer’s family on desk, point, start laughing uncontrollably.

      Ask if there is only one emergency exit, grin and say; ‘Boy!, I bet this floor would be in trouble if someone barricaded that.’

      Constantly fidget with underwear waistband, then blurt: ‘The strawberry ones are the stickiest, don’t ya’ think?’

      After detailing your greatest achievement, qualify with, ‘Of course I was totally hammered at the time.’

      Inquire on office policy of friends staying over.

      Claim you wouldn’t even need a sit-in job if Al Einstein hadn’t stolen your secret patent for ‘2000 Flushes’.

      Over-emphasize your ability to use a copier.

      Ask if it’s O.K. that you sit on the floor.

      Allow that you would little impact on the overhead budget, because you swiped all the supplies from your other job.

      Although parking was free, insist that they validate something or you’re not leaving.

      Mention your resume would have been stronger, but you didn’t feel like making anything else up.

      Ask the secretary if she’ll sit on your lap during the interview.

      Walk into interviewer’s office with a tape measure, measure office from a few angles, put away, declare; ‘NOW we can begin.’

      When making small talk and the Simpson trial comes up, shout: You mean Homer and Marge are in some kind of trouble?’

      Sniff two of your fingers hold out toward interviewer, ask; ‘smell these, these smell funny to you???’

      Upon walking in to the office for first time, ask receptionist to hold all your calls.

      • #3313187

        Funny stuff, Mae!

        by mlandis ·

        In reply to Sorry about your luck..perhaps this will help..

        Got quite a chuckle from them, thanks.

        I’ve been looking around for the “What not to say to a cop” list. Some of those could be changed around for the job interview stuff.

        i.e.

        Cop – “You’re eyes are red, you must have been drinking!”

        Answer – “You’re eyes are glazed, you must have been eating doughnuts.”

        Maureen

        • #3311411

          I’ve just had a great thought

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Funny stuff, Mae!

          Put Mae and Maureen in the same room and watch the sparks fly.

          Of course I would want to be on the other side of the two way mirror at the time.

          Col

        • #3311386

          THat’s getting interesting

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to I’ve just had a great thought

          OKAY time to be a pig,

          Will they be wearing pyjamas or bikini’s?

          Will they have pillows or big puffy boxing gloves?

          Will there be added fun with things like, baby oil, mud or jello?

          Will video or photography be allowed?

          How much are tickets?

          Sorry ladies. 🙂

        • #3311384

          Actually

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to THat’s getting interesting

          If we were thinking about fund raising, as opposed to raising anything else, Oz’s uh…anatomical differences would probably draw the greater crowd.

        • #3311380

          You mean

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Actually

          Like a freak show?

          I like that. 🙂

        • #3311335

          Sorry…

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to THat’s getting interesting

          Too cliche. No cat fights here, especially when I must confess to admiring most things Maureen says.. However, since I’ve started kick boxing with my sister, I have an insane urge to punch someone. It would have to be for a good reason. And, no baby oil.

        • #3311316

          Mae, I believe that

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to Sorry…

          the sparks the guys referred to were their own, not ours! That’s why I made no issue of it.

          Do you concur?

          Maureen

        • #3311295

          Yes..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Mae, I believe that

          Perhaps they would be willing to do the mud wrestling.

        • #3311286

          OK Galls I’ll be into the mud wrestling

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Mae, I believe that

          If you two go in for a Darwin Wet T Shirt Competition.

          Sound Fair?

          Col

        • #3311382

          And what makes you think

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to I’ve just had a great thought

          that women wouldn’t want to watch you men, while you are watching the women?

          Maureen

        • #3311379

          Yeah right

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to And what makes you think

          A buggered up old Aussie (sorry Colin) and a guy who’s once strong stature has been reduced to a bowling pin. 😀

          Geez, wonder what you could name THAT website?!

        • #3311375

          Striked and Spared?

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to Yeah right

          In keeping with the bowling theme of course!

          (Oh god, what I have I started?)

          Maureen

        • #3311358

          Maureen at least you know

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Striked and Spared?

          That I’m an evil Aussie SOB and readily admit it.

          Mae had a great put down for Garion which had me in fits of laughter when he tried hitting on her.

          Now what’s your excuse?

          Col

        • #3311351

          What do I need an excuse for again?

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to And what makes you think

          Dear Col, you crazy old git!

          This memo-pause stuff really gets in the way of my memory functioning well. So I can’t remember why I needed the excuse.

          I am sorry I missed Maecuff’s rebuff – that had to be funny. She is one smart lady.

          You are an evil Aussie? I thought the evil Aussies were all locked up in Parliament at Canberra? I really want to hear why you think you are evil.

          Maureen

        • #3311311

          Be fair Maureen

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to What do I need an excuse for again?

          While I might be “An Evil Aussie” I’m not totally insane, it’s only that lot that we lock up in Cantberra and make then think that they are running the place.

          But it is for their own good or they might hurt themselves and a lot of other innocent people. We do not even service any aircraft that we tell them that they have access to we just hope that they’ll fall out of the sky in the middle of nowhere killing all on board.

          In another thread Garion found out Mae was a female and her comment was at first that she never considered herself as a farm yard animal. Garion then proceeded to ask her for a photo so she described herself in the most unflattering manner possible.

          I only suggested locking you both in a room as you two do not seem to play by the rules that some of the others here seem to think all US citizens should. Personally I wouldn’t expect any “Cat Fights” but I certainly would not want to be in the way if someone stepped on either of you two toes as both of you have excellent put downs and are very fast on the uptake.

          Col

        • #3311294

          Good Morning, Col

          by mlandis ·

          In reply to Be fair Maureen

          I would never think that you could be as “evil” as a corrupt politician. It would be best if the plane were also maintained, piloted and crewed by the politicians you describe. That way in the event of complete failure, no innocent bystanders would suffer the consequences of jobs badly done.

          I have been waiting to ask “Garion11” who the other 10 were. He doen’t know me yet, so I have not gotten into much discussion with him. I can only imagine how Mae handled that whole thing! Mae is very quick and has a great sense of humor.

          I thought your suggestion of locking us in a room was hysterical! I knew you were being flattering – that hornbag Oz is the one who put the sexual spin on it. Which, in its own way, could be flattering too. It could mean that through our banter he finds us attractive, and feels it easier to make a joke of it in this manner. Or maybe it means nothing at all. In either case, no harm done.

          The first thought that came to mind was, “That’s ok as long as there is coffee. Mae is cool.”

          I haven’t been in TR enough to capture the “Silent US Code?” I have noted extremes of offensive or defensive commentary when discussing political issues. I am reminded of young kids in the schoolyard still working out the social stratification of the school dynamic. Is that what you mean?

          Anyway, I’ve got things to get to today. See you later and take care.

          Maureen

        • #3311290

          It’s very easy

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to Be fair Maureen

          To not ‘play by the rules’ when you are somewhat anonymous. Not that I am not vocal about my opinions (ask my husband, he’ll agree) but, I do temper my comments given the situation. I live in a very small, conservative? no, that’s not quite right..backward, redneck town, so, it’s in my best interest to not stir up the hornet’s nest and comfortably work and live here.

          Maureen, you are correct, if there’s coffee, I’m not going to complain. In fact, I think that’s my next step this morning.

        • #3311285

          Well have a Good Sunday

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Be fair Maureen

          Currently it is nearly 12.00 PM Sunday night here and it only starting the day your side of the pond.

          I hope both of you have a good one.

          Col

        • #3311271

          Maureen

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Be fair Maureen

          Well I know you’re too astute to take offense at such comments so yes you are right, it was all just some fun.

          You’ll learn that I live for shock value. Uunfortunately this forum is a bit sterile so there isn’t much opportunity to be too cheeky or off handed without people getting riled up. So if I get to make a little typically sexist fun, well it’s just that, fun. In reality, I am not one for the mud wrestling scene, I don’t like slimy, muddy women at all, that whole eating food off people thing just isn’t my game either, call me conventional but, eeeeew.

          But pillow fights in a teddy, well that just has a ring to it. 🙂

        • #3311234

          OZ as a keen sailor many years ago

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to Be fair Maureen

          There where always the “Figure Head Competition’s” that where held in the Whitsundays over the Easter Break that proved very stimulating. Personally I found it extremely off putting as there where a myriad of naked and semi naked women draped all over the boat making it almost impossible to sail but the crowd got a good time out of it and well the crew was well lubricated with beer.

          On one occasion I actually saw one race boat sailed straight into a cliff we kegged him off put half our crew on board and brought it back to dock where we left it moored. Everything was OK until the next day when the owner who was on board at the time wanted an explanation of how all the damage had been done he couldn’t believe that he couldn’t remember crashing the boat. Well it at the time was only a couple of Million $ worth but when we boarded the boat we found all the crew under the weather with the figure heads driving the boat. Very badly I might add but then again they had no experience so I suspose that they do an alright sought of job even if they did manage to sail it into the only hard piece of ground on the entire race course.

          However calling them races is a very big misnomer as they are more like a drinking spree with a bit of sailing thrown in for good measure, but it was a great holiday after the competitive racing of the past 6 months or so and in an excellent part of the world where you could afford to let your hair down and have a fun time.

          Incidental the race was won by the boat with what the crowd judged the best figure head actual sailing had absolutely nothing to do with the whole thing only the females who got on board where of any interest to the crowd.

          Col

      • #3313125

        That was good!

        by packet spoofer ·

        In reply to Sorry about your luck..perhaps this will help..

        I sure got a chuckle on this one Mae!

      • #3311470

        LOL LOL ROFLMAO!

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Sorry about your luck..perhaps this will help..

        Holy crap I just read the last line WAY too fast.

        Upon walking in to the office for first time, ask receptionist to hold all your calls.

        I glanced at it and saw a B instead of a C. 😀

        • #3311417

          Wow..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to LOL LOL ROFLMAO!

          All of them, instead of some of them? You must be a very interesting person.

        • #3311387

          DAMN

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Wow..

          You should see me trying to buy PANTS!! Riding a bike is an art, never was alowed to play contact sports, the cup was one size fits all, sure.

        • #3311334

          is it just me..

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to DAMN

          or has this thread degenerated rapidly?

        • #3311310

          No Mae it isn’t just you

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to is it just me..

          Actually this thread appears to have nothing at all to do with OZ original posting now.

          But you have to admit it is fun!

          Col

        • #3311288

          Okay

          by maecuff ·

          In reply to No Mae it isn’t just you

          It IS kind of fun. If nothing else, this thread can take Oz’s mind off his woes.

    • #3313276

      Sorry about your luck..perhaps this will help..

      by maecuff ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      Things to Say at a Job Interview

      See photo of interviewer’s family on desk, point, start laughing uncontrollably.

      Ask if there is only one emergency exit, grin and say; ‘Boy!, I bet this floor would be in trouble if someone barricaded that.’

      Constantly fidget with underwear waistband, then blurt: ‘The strawberry ones are the stickiest, don’t ya’ think?’

      After detailing your greatest achievement, qualify with, ‘Of course I was totally hammered at the time.’

      Inquire on office policy of friends staying over.

      Claim you wouldn’t even need a sit-in job if Al Einstein hadn’t stolen your secret patent for ‘2000 Flushes’.

      Over-emphasize your ability to use a copier.

      Ask if it’s O.K. that you sit on the floor.

      Allow that you would little impact on the overhead budget, because you swiped all the supplies from your other job.

      Although parking was free, insist that they validate something or you’re not leaving.

      Mention your resume would have been stronger, but you didn’t feel like making anything else up.

      Ask the secretary if she’ll sit on your lap during the interview.

      Walk into interviewer’s office with a tape measure, measure office from a few angles, put away, declare; ‘NOW we can begin.’

      When making small talk and the Simpson trial comes up, shout: You mean Homer and Marge are in some kind of trouble?’

      Sniff two of your fingers hold out toward interviewer, ask; ‘smell these, these smell funny to you???’

      Upon walking in to the office for first time, ask receptionist to hold all your calls.

    • #3313258

      It happens to everyone nowadays

      by av . ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      There are lots of small businesses that desperately need computer help. If that doesn’t work, you have other options.

      Music sales sounds like an interesting job. Many years ago, I worked for a small company that made music tapes that companies bought or rented to play in offices or when people were on hold. It was a unique fun business.

      Whatever you do, lots of luck. You can tell us all about it.

    • #3313198

      You’ll be right

      by hereinoz ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      You will be OK, Oz.

      Just put yourself out there and someone will take you on. It may not be the “right” job first up – it could be just a filler to earn some cash – but in the end it will all work out OK.

      You may find that 2 years down the track you are actually better off.

      My opinion is that the person who has outsourced overseas, whether it be Turkey or India or even Australia (why would you want to do that??) will, in the end, be the loser, not you.

      You have a lot to offer, Oz, just keep it positive, keep your eye out for opportunities, and it will all happen at the appropriate time.

      I look forward to an increase in your posting activity as well. I am sure Max feels the same!

      Good luck,

      Alan

      • #3311357

        Alan

        by hal 9000 ·

        In reply to You’ll be right

        I just heard that the Doctor in Training is heading North along with his medical bag containing his “Silver Hammer” to pay OZ a visit.

        Col

        • #3311332

          Now now

          by oz_media ·

          In reply to Alan

          Take it easy on Max, he’s being real good. Like they say, if you have nothing good to say, it’s best not to say anything at all.

    • #3313141

      Another option ….

      by jardinier ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      I have suggested this before, and I will suggest it again. Use your proven skills with website design to build a website for TR which has a modicum of visual appeal, and actually works ALL the time.

      But then again you may like to cash in on another of your talents and move to Miami and hustle — let wealthy widows and divorcees pay you to give them pleasure.

      However, a word of warning. A friend told me the following true story. A young man married a frail, elderly lady with the sole intention of inheriting her money.

      However her young stud so enlivened her that she looked like living for a long time. The young man committed suicide.

      [Psst ….. I will share a little secret with you. I sometimes describe myself as a gigolo because a wealthy woman pays me well to give her pleasure. Ahem … the pleasure comes from the beauty I create in her garden]. But the principle is the same.

      But some day …….

    • #3313123

      Hopefully….

      by packet spoofer ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      The warm fuzzies are kicking in right about now!

    • #3313118

      That blows.. Good luck Oz…

      by tomsal ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      Sorry to hear man. To be honest though, I think you are still in better shape than me…I don’t have all the contacts you seem to have and the job market here is just a notch or two above “lifeless”.

      However, just wanted to say sorry to hear — I know I’d be a bit upset if someone outsource a job away from me.

      later on man.

      tom

      • #3311466

        Thanks everyone

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to That blows.. Good luck Oz…

        Well I think I was just pissed off and needed to vent but since then am starting to feel it’s the best thing to happen for a while. I moved here to LEAVE them the first time and ended up getting them on a contract basis, no big deal.

        Anyhow,I took off with th edirt bikes and a couple of buddies for the night and had a blast, I just got home to an inbossx with four responses for work, one to redesign a site for a recruiting company. Others for quality assurance and training in call centers (good dosh, one of which is even on the island), but I think I’mm gonna enjoy the holidays first.

        Have a good weekend and thanks for al the positive thoughts! 😀

        Don’t forget to check out the YUK, it’s a good political time waster. !

    • #3311414

      Oz is he outsourcing to

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      The Turkish Kurds?

      No I thought not but here is something that may prove useful I’ve just spent well over 4 hours on the phone explaining to a supposedly IT tech in Indonesia how to setup a customers e-mail account to send and receive e-mail from a hotel there. Apparently he gave the hotel guest the Hotel Managers account and thought that he had done a good thing.

      Anyway I think that he eventually created a new account for the customer which because nobody knows the address is useless. When I got on the phone to him he insisted that the incoming and outgoing mail servers had to be the same. While this is correct for your own e-mail accounts it leaves a lot to be desired for a hotel customer when they have their e-mail address totally screwed up.

      With a bit of luck that guy will be knocking your door down within a few weeks as the service is not as good as what you offered and the language barrier is too hard to overcome.

      Col

      • #3311389

        I wouldn’t work for them again Colin

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Oz is he outsourcing to

        He’d have to show up with a car or two and one hell of a big check to get me back into that rut.

        Actually I had quit the company once and offered to continue handling things remotely for a while until he got setup with new staff, we ended up settling on a contract and he terminated it, will be buying me out. So I am not at all bothered really, I have had others knocking at the door already. I turned down one job after a phone interview and another by email so I don’t think I’ll have too many problems getting going again, when I feel like it, maybe I’ll wait a month or two and relax for a bit through the holidays, perhaps vist England for a month or so or something.

        I could go camping for a month or so if I chose to now, the added freedom from monitoring thier networks four time a day will be nice.

        • #3311233

          I know that feeling well OZ

          by hal 9000 ·

          In reply to I wouldn’t work for them again Colin

          I had one customer who I only considered working for because of one of the staff who they took on and he recommended me for their IT work. She was Spanish with a temper to match and while she allowed her kids free run of thew business computers to do as they wished it was always my fault when something went wrong.

          Her opening comment was always “What have you done to our computers?” and it didn’t matter if I had been there last 3 months ago or 3 hours ago. It used to drive her nuts when I constantly showed her where the problem had originated and it was always something to do with one of the sons messing around and treating the business computers like a giant play toy.

          Col

    • #3311409

      Well OZ you can get pearls of Wisdom from a lot of places

      by hal 9000 ·

      In reply to Outsourced !!

      But this is one of the best I’ve heard in a very long time. It comes directly from a Van Damm movie and one of the main charters says to the other “Parents always lie to their children to get them used to the way that the Government is going to do the same think when they are older!”

      Just think on it and you’ll see the meaning.

      And I was actually testing out a Windows 2005 Media Center unit that I’d just built so that is my excuse for watching that DVD and I’m sticking to it.

      Col

      • #3311388

        My favorite

        by oz_media ·

        In reply to Well OZ you can get pearls of Wisdom from a lot of places

        Which you may remember from your studies,

        “If something can be solved, there’s no use worrying about it.

        If it can’t be solved, worrying will do you no good.”

        I know it has been thrown around by many people but I believe it originated in Bhuddist texts.

        At this point, I couldn’t be happier and really couldn’t give a s**t about it anyway.

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