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By john.a.wills ·
Benedict XVI quoted a Byzantine emperor as saying something unkind about Muhammed's teaching; great offence is taken from Morocco to Indonesia. In the same speech the Pope quoted someone else as saying that God does not exist; no-one seems to care. From the context it is obvious that he did not agree with either quotation. Why the difference in reaction?

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Sound bites

by Maevinn In reply to papal quotations

Are NEVER provided within full context. A quote saying the pope thinks there isn't a God? Clearly ridiculous, not even newsworthy. A sound bit of him bashing another religion? Well, that's news! Blood, guts and gory--manufactured if not found.

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Mavyn, I think you

by Old Guy In reply to Sound bites

might have misread the first post. It said "In the same speech the Pope quoted someone else as saying that God does not exist;" He quoted someone saying that God does not exist.

Just to clarify.

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No...

by Maevinn In reply to Mavyn, I think you

That's my point. Take that comment out of context (as him quoting someone else) and it's clearly absurd. The other comment--as a quote or not--can easily be taken out of context to tick people off. They'll believe it because they WANT to believe.

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Oh, I see what you

by Old Guy In reply to No...

were getting to now. I thought you had mistakely thought he did say that. You're right that would be absurd.

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"You're right that would be absurd."

by Absolutely In reply to Oh, I see what you

But the other is not?

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I believe the Pope should. . . . . .

by maxwell edison In reply to papal quotations

...demand an apology from all Muslims for failing to both denounce and take proactive steps to eliminate the murderous tactics employed by their Muslim brothers in the name of Islam.

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That's reasonable

by DelbertPGH In reply to I believe the Pope should ...

How these Islamist wingnuts can burn down churches and shoot a nun and call themselves righteously idignant because somebody suggested Islam was "intolerant"... just eludes me.

I think the Pope could fairly apologize for being careless with the impressions he creates. It's not like he's having a private talk with the boys in the Vatican locker room; the whole world is listening, and crackpots are out there, ready to explode. If you're going to be a leader, you need some discretion.

But I think he ought to also say, in the same breath, that every Muslim church man owes the world a condemnation of his own people's intolerance, and an apology for the violence and lack of respect they offer the rest of us.

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discretion

by jdclyde In reply to That's reasonable

If the pope of all people won't take a stand on something like this, who will?

We hear all the time about how it is just extremists, and I WANT to believe that. But when I don't see the NON-extremists rise up to do ANYTHING about what is done in THEIR name, it takes a lot away from their arguement.

At least the "righteously idignant" response isn't about cartoons?

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"But when I don't see the NON-extremists rise up to do ANYTHING"

by Absolutely In reply to discretion

In the United States, we are assured that freedom to dissent is guaranteed, but anti-war protesters suffer illegal wiretapping and this country's extremists ignore the Constitution, and assert that spying is a valid substitute for a search warrant. If, in "the freest country on Earth", such abuse is permitted by the majority while a state of war makes a convenient excuse, why should "NON-extremists rise up to do ANYTHING" in nations without the guarantees of personal liberty our Constitution promises us?

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If these are the same people

by jdclyde In reply to "But when I don't see the ...

that want us to believe that muslims are peaceful and tolerant, then they need to keep the insane people from making them all look like the crazy death worshipers they are.

The people that tell us it is just a minority of the muslims that are insane, they should be able to do something about a minority.

Good thing our government isn't shooting nuns in the streets, huh? Lucky for them Reno isn't still the sherif in town.....

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